Dear Ruki,

I think you are very correct in realizing that SLU is very correct in being selective in what it discusses publicly. And SLU says so in their response

“There are obviously broader concerns to be addressed such as the legal and political matters which are admittedly direct concerns for reconciliation to materialize. As a non partisan youth movement we need not necessarily involve ourselves in discussing politics publicly. We need not necessarily be a political agitator. We need not necessarily challenge and agitate against the state.”

Clearly you don’t understand the concept of different people in society doing their own part in order to make the society work. When a woman is sick you would think that that a lawyer should go and treat her. When the road is broken you think a nurse should go and fix it. SLU is a youth movement for reconciliation. Its role is to create a generation of youth who can take this country forward towards reconciliation, Not to just make pointless statments for the sake of being accurate on facts.

And if you read carefully you will see that SLU doesn’t approve illegal land thefts.But not having a public stance means when SLU can meet with officials and directly lobby them where as most NGOs in this country won’t get a hearing. What’s the point of shouting at the top of your lungs when no one is listening? a whisper in the year which gets results is much more worth while, don’t you think?

“We don’t believe that the reduction in the level of misery will delegitimize the inalienable rights of the people. ”

“The plight of these people has not changed. The houses promised by the Indian government may well take another three years to materialize.”

http://groundviews.org/2013/01/11/response-to-racing-tanks-with-bicycles-a-parable-of-reconciliation-in-sri-lanka/

Dear Mapa,

You ask “How may these people who talk the talk walk the walk?”

Ok, since you ask, let me try and explain!

A language is more than just words.
Hence to understand it, you need a developed language center between the ears, Ha ha haa. Unfortunately for you Mapa, yours is still underdeveloped as seen by the question and the childish attempt at changing a pseudonym when you have nothing to offer intellectually.

I also note that there are many posts addressed to you that you did not respond to in a previous thread. Probably you could not understand them either when you were stuck in a repeating grove with the singular question from Yapa about the 146,000 civilian deaths in just 18 days in May 2009.

Hopefully, you will understand what I have written above despite the inherent deficiencies. The GV moderator did not like my previous two line reply, which given your deficiencies in language, you would have understood better. Please seriously think about getting help to improve the language you use without wasting space on GV and the time of others with silly questions that go no further than to expose your disability.

Thanks

Off the Scarf,

How may these people who talk the talk walk the walk?

Thanks!

Ward,

Hmm apparently the so called Tamil Civil Society has not been able to meet the needs of Tamil Civilians. Crocodile tears wont help the Tamil Civilians. How come the Tamil civilians choose pre schools run by the forces if there are such schools run by Tamil Civil Society? Are there any provided by Tamil Civil Society?

Not surprisingly, the forces have had to step in to provide community service as those who talk the talk has failed to walk the talk.

Ward please convince those war weary Tamil Civilians to give a hand to the Eelam project by boycotting any services provided by the forces.

You have just looked up and spat.

Ward,

Ha ha haa which Gun are you referring to?

Please make your argument if you have any.

Reconciliation by armed force?

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=Rehabilitated_Ex_LTTE_cadres_to_teach_at_Pre_Schools_20121208_02
Rehabilitated Ex-LTTE cadres to teach at Pre-Schools

”As a measure to supplement the shortage of qualifies Pre- School teachers in the North and East 400 youth from the region including rehabilitated ex-LTTE cadres have been recruited as Pre-School teachers.

Under the directions of the Secretary Defence and Urban Development Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa, the Director General of the Civil Security Department Rear Admiral (Retd) Ananda Peiris had made arrangements to recruit these rehabilitation beneficiaries and civilians to the department as Pre-School teachers. …………………….”

Peace Education as enunciated by LLRC:

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=Sri_Lanka_Air_Force_Batticaloa_Open_the_First_Ever_English_Tamil_Pre_School_20130116_04
Air Force opens Pre-School in Batticaloa,

”As part of its community service initiatives the Sri Lanka Air Force opened a Pre-School in Batticaloa on 15th January. This is the first Pre-School operated by the SLAF where Tamil and English will be the medium of instructions.

This long felt need was initiated by the SLAF Unit in Batticaloa. The Pre-School will cater to the needs of the children of the Tamil speaking community of the area. It is run by qualified personnel of the SLAF who have undergone specialized training in language and Pre-School teaching. These bilingual learning environments will create a better understanding between different communities and also help to inculcate good ethics within the children. ……………..”

Dear Ruki,

You ask many questions but failed to justify your use of a GOSSIP writer.

Keppapulawu is on the Western side of the Nanthikadal lagoon in the middle of the LTTE heartland. Till it was liberated from the terrorist grip in 2009 it was under the control of the LTTE and has been so for 3 decades.

You ask “Have you visited Keppapulavu people and spoken to them? “

I haven’t nor did I pretend to have. Obviously you have and believe you know about Keppapaluwa and it’s people more than me, hence the question. But SLU have and has been involved with Kappapaluwa, a fact that you seem to resent.

But the question is not about me. It’s about your use of the writings of a Gossip who has not written a word in defense of his GOSSIP column either under his own article or in response to SLU’s challenge in their counter.

You and a host of others who decided to attack a Tamil IDP led effort, to help the people of Keppapaluwa, seems to project to the world, that you and them know more about these people who lived for 30 years under the jackboot of a Terrorist gang by interacting with some of them after the war was won and they were liberated.

Now the pertinent question is, did you live with these people when they were subject to the Jackboot of terrorists? How many times did you visit Keppapaluwa before 19 May 2009? What personal experience do you have of the workings of the Terrorists and their administration? What personal experience do you have, of the people of Keppapaluwa, during the 30 years prior to 19 May 2009?

Since you have questioned me about my personal knowledge of Keppapaluwa, you need to justify how you acquired authoritative knowledge on how the LTTE disbursed Land, provided food, clothing, shelter, health care and education during the 30 years they dictated to the people of Keppapaluwa and deprived all civil liberties to them.

The danger of this all knowing attitude of pseudo Civil Activism is the stifling of even the little help they get from organizations like the SLU.

The irony of your question is that the leader of the SLU did have personal experience of the LTTE and their methods pre 2009. He has had his education disrupted and forced to move from place to place and forced to live a life of an IDP. He therefore KNOWS more about the Terrorist administration and the suffering of being a Tamil civilian under the LTTE than any of you who criticize. He knows what it feels to be deprived of an Education.

It is laughable to see you ridiculing the SLU for involving the SLA, who are now in control of these areas in their efforts at helping the Tamil people. How did the multitude of NGO’s (including UN and the Red Cross) operate within LTTE controlled areas before it was liberated? Was it by being cooperative or by being antagonistic or by simply ignoring the terrorists?

Don’t be naive Ruki, your simplistic indignation is misplaced.

What is a Mahaveer family?
Is it the family of a dead LTTE cadre?
Are there non Sri Lankans amongst them (such as illegal immigrants from Tamil Nadu?
Were they given land by the LTTE?
What prevented the LTTE from using govt institutions and officers under their direct and physical control to issue deeds and other documents pertaining not only to land but NID cards and other documents of citizenship as well?
Do they hold deeds?
How much Land was thus alienated?
Any idea of extent?

Hence what is the value of the following paragraph of yours when even the highest to the lowest Government official (the Grama Niladhari) lived in constant fear of death under the LTTE? Do you want us to believe they could disobey the LTTE and do what is right?

“I know this by visiting these areas, talking to people who held deeds and permits, seeing the areas military occupies, having looked at some deeds and permits, looked at court cases and even by admittance of military and government officials themselves in writing and verbally”

Did you visit these areas when it was under LTTE Fiat?

You further state “ Ownership of land can also be established by records in relevant Government offices”

Yes true, but under normal circumstances. The 30 years under the LTTE was not normal circumstances. Surely Ruki you knew that. So why did you hide THAT fact?

I do not know how far the following story is true but I personally know several Tamil friends who owned land in Jaffna and who now live in the UK, whose Lands were confiscated by the LTTE and given to Mahaveer families. The father of one of these friends was abducted by the LTTE and a demand made from the son in the UK, to pay an exorbitant some of money calculated on the number of years spent away from Jaffna for his release.

Daily Mirror
Members of the Jaffna Sinhala families evicted by the LTTE today said although they are in possession of their land deeds the government is not making any moves to resettle them as their lands are now in possession of Mahavir families. Displaying their land deeds at a media briefing the displaced Sinhalese who are now housed at Jaffna Railway station said they are now being looked after by their former Tamil neighbours and relations as their property had been given to ‘Mahavir’ families by the LTTE in their absence.

Daily News
Government officials in the Vavuniya, Kilinochchi and Mullaitivu districts yesterday said that they get a number of complaints from people who have returned to the country after a lapse of 20- 25 years over the illegal occupation of their lands. Lands taken over by the LTTE were distributed among Mahaveer families by them during the time of the Ceasefire Agreement. The UNF Government had issued the illegal occupants of these lands official title deeds. An official of the Kilinochchi District Secretariat who wished to remain anonymous told the Daily News that the Government had issued title deeds to the people who occupied these lands illegally during the time when the Ceasefire Agreement was in force. The official said the LTTE considered the people who left the area under their control as traitors.

The best help you can provide the unfortunate Tamil Civilians is to refrain from misinformed wild accusations aimed at discouraging those who are prepared to help and are helping like the SLU.

I made an observation about the SLA’s legal ability to be stationed within the borders of SL which is the identical right any govt armed forces have in any country.

I believe you should acquaint yourself where the burden of proof lies when a land claim is made. You should also be acquainted with Prescriptive Rights which is part of SL law. If I am not mistaken these prescriptive rights that comes in to force when a land is possessed and enjoyed by a person for a continuous period of 10 years was suspended from being applied in the LTTE controlled areas for the obvious reason of protecting the rights of the original owners.

If you are still unable to comprehend the logic of my arguments, please feel free to point out specific areas that you are still unclear of. I will try to clear your doubts.

Lastly I thank you for discharging your responsibility by answering posts addressed to you as an author of an article. This is a responsibility shirked by GOSSIP writers like Amal de Chickera and a host of other authors. I salute you in this regard.

Dear Sie.K,

If what I have written can be interpreted or even can be viewed as having a semblance of an appearance of being an accusation of the SL Armed forces of terrorism, you need to take an intensive course in the Language that you have decided to correspond on, in this forum or elsewhere in the public domain, before you venture to write in that language.

What you have done is to sidestep the main issue that I have highlighted and had decided to wear the cap of a dunce.

The main issue is the Shameless use of the writings of a GOSSIP and a COWARD to slander the SLU (just in case you decide to confuse the ‘U’ with an ‘A’ please note the last letter in that acronym is ‘U’ and is not ‘A’).

Apparently you neither have the intelligence nor comprehension nor the ability to defend your use of a GOSSIP, to Slander the SLU. You have been repeating Gossip and has become a Gossip monger as a consequence.

Can you defend your writings with WISDOM instead?

Remember that all Land to which a Legal Claim cannot be established reverts back to the Govt (or if in the UK the Crown).

Over to you my dear friend, lets have an intelligent discussion if you are capable of one.