Comments on: Why I stand by our cartoon https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon Journalism for Citizens Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:03:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Rontejan https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48557 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:57:59 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48557 In reply to Rontejan.

Hey GVs,

I said, “I will most probably never vote again.”.

Whom are you going to vote for GVs? Come election time we get two hugely long lists from the two most corrupted main Parties asking for our vote. Don’t forget, we first have to vote for the Party before selecting our preferences. We can vote for uncorrupted ones of the list, but they never get elected, ‘cos the ones who put up the most number of posters with ill gotten money are the ones who get most of the votes. So why should I waste my vote and my time? You tell me, how many times have our voters elected a list of honest candidates in the past 30-35 years?

And you said, ‘As for J’s misdeeds, a blog post referencing other sources isn’t enough. Is there the equivalent of COPE? Are the case details mentioned in the blog post available online, from the TN govt sites (not unlike some case records from SL’s Supreme Court, which are online)? What are the original sources used in the blog post? The burden of proof when making a submission, no matter how believable it is, is on you. Accurate web sourcing is the bane of mainstream media in SL, and this is just to encourage you to be better than most.’

I see that you are still living in the same hole GVs. Why don’t you do our own research for a change, to find out, from the sources you mentioned. I have done mine. You will also find out that sometimes, the Indian Police is fearless in chasing behind the high and mighty to uncover corruption and other misdeeds. But most of the time they fail in the end, as the Powerful ones wriggle out. Jayalalitha getting rid of the Special Prosecutor appointed by the Chief Justice himself is a case in point. Bofors and Telecom scandals also come to mind. Its long list and you will enjoy reading them if you know where to look, without asking me!

Its better if you can have a REPLY line below your comments so that we can reply to you direct, without my replies going under my own posts.

And Hewa, Thank You!

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By: Rontejan https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48556 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:21:49 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48556 Anuk said,

‘Ranga, a very simple way to test if your cartoon is vulgar is by replacing the characters with those close to you and asking you if you still feel the same way about it’s vulgarity?

Treat people the way you want to be treated. If this was a lady from your own family, would you still defend it?

If this was President Rajapaksa’s wife, would you still say vulgarity is in the eye of the beholder and continue to defend your right to share it with everyone in public.’

Alexf said,

‘There was a good question at the top of this list of comments. Would this cartoon have been published if the lady depicted was the president’s wife? Hmmm … white van time I suspect.’

I gave a reply to both above. What I asked was, whether you like to replace your loved ones in your photograph(album)s with Jayalalitha’s photos. The Super GVs edited that out too! Saying something about lewd comment-lumping everything I said together.

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By: Jasmin https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48553 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:49:34 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48553 How would you like if Jyalalitha is replaced by [edited out] Duminda Silva and Indian head of state Dr. Manmohan Singh, replaced by SL head of state?

This our culture; nude parades of Wanni, Pahalagama thero’s child abuse, child rape, killer monks, politicos & citizens……

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By: citizen https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48552 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:52:42 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48552 this cartoon well expresses how indian central govt act these days.

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By: Hewa https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48551 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:50:15 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48551 In reply to Rontejan.

@ Rontejan
Bravo !!. Wherever you are from and whoever you are, you have given fitting replies to Groundviews.The cartoon is all about Jayalalitha and her knee-jerk acts/reactions to ” safeguard” her Tamil breathen. And it is against these same Tamil people that Amma seem to have commited these endless faruds.Groundviews is trying to deflect this issue in the replies they have given, but facts are stubborn and there is No Smoke without a Fire.
It is one thing to claim ( and make merry hell) that a cartoon is vulgar even if it is not vulgar, but a totally different thing to train and equip, and harbor a terrorist outfit like the LTTE to harm a democratically elected Government of a neighbor. And this is exactly what J and her ardent supporters did for which all the Sri Lankans including our Tamil brothers and sisters had to pay over the last 25 years. This woman is now trying to pour petrol on this fire which was extinguished a few years. Please please….. stay away (rather than trying to start another war which could send Sri Lanka many years back) and try to spend the twilight years of your life to do something better.

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By: paul https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48550 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:38:03 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48550 The only thing i see in this cartoon is the cartoonist’s attempt to show how the Central Government is ‘brown nosing’ Jayalalitha at the expense of innocent Sri Lankan pilgrims and school kids. What’s this sudden prudishness and wringing of hands going to accomplish?

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By: alex f https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48549 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:21:19 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48549 There was a good question at the top of this list of comments. Would this cartoon have been published if the lady depicted was the president’s wife? Hmmm … white van time I suspect. Self censorship and selective freedoms are the best journalism in sri lanka can aspire to.

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By: srinath.gunaratne https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48544 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:53:58 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48544 This is the slap in the face Manmohan govt need to wake up, I think the cartoon has sent the message to the top. This should be nominated for awards. Respect the freedom of speech.

What is vulgar is training a terror outfit to kill 60,000 of Sri Lankans and destroying our economy for 30 years.

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By: Bedrock Barney https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48540 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:42:36 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48540 The cartoon in question depicts artist’s take, on nature of the relationship between Tamil Nadu and the central government vis-a-vis the Sri Lankan national question. It is indeed a complex and multifaceted relationship. The cartoon depicts just one small aspect of this. Yet to many Sri lankans (including this one) there is a nagging truism about the cartoon.
In an era where schoolboy soccer teams become pawns in politics and pilgrims are attacked because the attackers forgot to check the ethnicity of these pilgrims, the thresholds of vulgarity seem undefined. Some who have commented here are clearly aware of the exact boundaries. This is a good thing, at least someone knows. Now, if only they can enlighten the political leadership of Tamil Nadu, it would be step in the right direction. That! is inherently dangerous, so it is safer to go after Ranga Jayasuriya. Politics remain Politics.

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By: Kshama https://groundviews.org/2012/09/11/why-i-stand-by-our-cartoon/#comment-48537 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:18:04 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=10199#comment-48537 In reply to Anuk.

Well said, Anuk and AMR.

Ranga J,India has certainly overstepped its mark in charging Aseem Trivedi for sedition. Sorry that you are trying to equate his work with that of the Lakbimaenwes cartoon. I see no crudity or vulgarity in Trivedi’s drawings.

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