Comments on: IS THE BBS THE BOSS? https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-the-bbs-the-boss Journalism for Citizens Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57745 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:14:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57745 In reply to alex f.

you’ve already suggested that DJ may not have known of alleged crimes. i notice you backtracking on that in order to salvage your argument.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57744 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:12:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57744 In reply to alex f.

unfortunately, most of your comments on world history makes it clear you have very little understanding of liberalism.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57743 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:11:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57743 In reply to alex f.

precisely.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57742 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:10:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57742 In reply to alex f.

so for all your claimed liberalism you are unable to look beyond narrow ethnic confines to dismiss the Marga Institute as “Sinhala”? similarly i question your worship of the People’s Tribunal when you’re so ready to dismiss international legal experts who actually sit participate in international war crimes investigations who have contributed to the Marga Publications.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57741 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:33:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57741 In reply to alex f.

i didn’t say that external pressure has no effect. Indian intervention created the 13th Amendment for example. my point is i don’t see anything useful happening from external pressure beyond expediting certain things that were anyway on the cards. for instance no amount of pressure has been able to bring forth an articulated political plan for the NE. as soon as the pressure is removed the motivations change as they have on 13A. i think there’s a difference between international outrage and external intervention, don’t you? there’s a lot of international outrage over Guantanamo Bay, but no external intervention. try and stay focused on what your argument is.

if you had in fact read what i had said in previous years — including what was published by Marga (not me alone) — what i was against was an external criminal investigation which had the objective of prosecuting someone for a crime. i wasn’t against an investigation itself, and i believe the GoSL should have established a credible investigation mechanism to establish whether a crime had been in fact committed. world opinion is in a significantly different place because the GoSL has shown itself uninterested in engaging with the allegations and dealing with them, so the continuously repeated mantra of the allegations have now become de facto reality in spite of there being no evidence whatsoever. your claim as fact that rape was used as a weapon of war is a good example of repeating a lie until it is accepted as fact. the steadily and randomly increasing civilian casualty figures are another. what’s the latest fantasy — 140, 000? it started at 40k — itself a figure with no real basis in reality — and has been adjusted upwards without any new evidence coming to light.

the evidence i ask for doesn’t require an investigation; one needs proof — or at least strong suspicion — that a crime has been committed before one sets out to investigate and gather evidence of a culprit. right now, there is no evidence of a crime having been committed, but you are insistent that one has occurred and needs to be investigated.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57740 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:04:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57740 In reply to David Blacker.

with regard to Balkanization, you are now saying that there’s a fifty-fifty chance that it might work so let’s try it. that’s not good enough a reason to fragment my country, sorry, just because you want a quick fix.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57739 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:02:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57739 In reply to alex f.

but the state is a manifestation of the people, Alex. the state did not drop down from heaven. it was created by an electorate that is racist. the Tigers were similarly a manifestation of the NE Tamils who created a constitution — the Vaddukoddai Resolution — that was just as mono-ethnic and racist as the Sinhalese one.

the state, and its government, the BBS, the Tigers, are the factories created by the system of racism within the people. you cannot reform or tear down any of those — especially not externally — unless you first deal with the system. i will leave it there for now since we are both just repeating our arguments and not making any headway. i do hope you will eventually grasp the factory/system theory before you attempt to argue against it.

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By: maithree .. https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57736 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:54:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57736 Why is it that the muslim youth who blocked the path of a Buddhist monk returning from a sermon on Poya day and assaulted him that sparked violence in Dharga Town not arrested. Why is it that damage done to sinhala residents in the area not reported? This was a result of Police inaction. The Bodu Bala Sena was not involved in this initially and only came to the scene as the police didn’t take any action. The above pic this site has posted is not from Aluthgama and is misleading. It is unfair to mislead people for certain individuals personal or political gain.

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By: alex f https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57734 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:27:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57734 Btw just looked up the Marga Institute. Its a Sri Lanka based, almost entirely Sinhala think tank. I am not surprised they published your papers on the non-‘genocide’ of Tamils. I am a little surprised by how easily you dismiss the People’s Tribunal given its constitution of its panel – genuine global experts on their field.

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By: alex f https://groundviews.org/2014/06/17/is-the-bbs-the-boss/#comment-57729 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:55:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15844#comment-57729 In reply to David Blacker.

Haha – interesting analogy. I have to admit I like the liberal frame-work as it is the idealogy of compromise that accommodates and is open, however it is uncompromising where it matters – the rights of people. My point above is that the individuals you highlight had a liberal space to work with (albeit relative). There isn’t a lack of liberals amongst Sri Lanka’s nations, there is a lack of space for them to work out a solution.

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