Comments on: A response to the critiques of the victory celebrations https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations Journalism for Citizens Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57243 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:22:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57243 In reply to Dev.

i have no idea whether the MR is lying, and neither do you. what you are claiming is that an allegation becomes fact as long as the allegation is made by a particular individual.

you still seem unable to explain how DJ being in an NGO has relevance to his criticism of just GR and not MR. is this because you don’t know and are simply repeating something in the hope that you will sound intelligent? i look forward to your explanation.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57242 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:19:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57242 i don’t believe the president has ever personally withdrawn the zero casualty claim. even if he has, do you contend that the facts change when someone changes his claim? 😀 opinion isn’t fact, something poor old Dev can’t understand.

i also don’t think GR has “exposed” anything about NGO plans. he too has made allegations, but again, do you contend that an allegation is a fact?

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By: Dev https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57220 Wed, 04 Jun 2014 00:21:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57220 In reply to David Blacker.

Come come David, stop beating about the bush. Are you saying the President Mahinda (twice democratically elected and tiger vanquisher) is lying?

Either he is or he is not, only ONE could be true !

Let us focus on Dayan and his NGO connections for now, since that is the subject we are talking about.

Option 1:

If Hon. Mahinda is NOT lying,then it is established that Dayan indeed works for a NGO and his recent rants against Hon. G Rajapakse (who lead our army to victory) is motivated by his NGO connections.

?Option 2:?

If the president is lying, it means he lied in front of millions of people worldwide …..

If he lied and Dayan does not work for a NGO, then, given that Dayan has in more than one occasion claimed that it is only Mahinda that can “deliver” Sri Lanka’s much needed peace and prosperity (definitely not CBK, Ranil or Rev. Sobitha) Are you suggesting that Dayan has been asking us to support a “lier”??
(if that is true, then that speaks more about Dayan than Mahinda).

It can only be one of the above two options-its that simple !

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57206 Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:43:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57206 In reply to Fitzpatrick.

Dev, since you believe that all that is necessary for something to become fact is for the Prez to say so, i am sure you now accept that as fact that there were zero civilian casualties in the NE.

Fitz, until Dev is capable of actually providing the context that would make DJ’s alleged employment by an NGO significant to his criticism of GR (but not of MR), his simple repetition that it is significant has no value as an argument.

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By: Jack Point https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57086 Sat, 24 May 2014 18:42:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57086 I think the problem with the victory celebration is that it looks engineered to rub in the fact that the Tamils (not the LTTE) were defeated and the Sinhalese, were the victors. The GoSL reactions to any attempt at mourning or commemoration in the North this year underlines this attitude – anything done by the Tamils must necessarily be a commemoration of the LTTE and therefore banned. When LTTE=Tamils and the celebration is all about the defeat of the Tamils I think it bodes ill for any reconciliation. Subjugation, yes. Reconciliation, no.

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By: I Karu https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57062 Sat, 24 May 2014 01:03:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57062 In reply to Fitzpatrick.

Thank you for your comments and your exposure.

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By: Fitzpatrick https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57057 Fri, 23 May 2014 12:50:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57057 In reply to David Blacker.

You have missed Dev’s point. Dayan said he criticized the defense secretary (in his own words: one of if not the first public personality to name and criticize Gotabhaya ). Dev raised the point that given his involvement with an NGO and given Gothabhya’s criticism of NGO’s, is his criticism motivated by his involvement with a NGO?

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By: Dev https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57055 Fri, 23 May 2014 11:23:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57055 In reply to David Blacker.

This is NOT rumour but stating the facts as laid out by our Hon. (twice democratically elected) president regarding Dayan. Simply a fact ! (unless you are suggesting our excellency deals with rumors and innuendo).
I am simply saying that given this exposure by our honorable president, Dayan’s statements need to be taken in that context of his NGO involvement together with the government’s (in particular our defense secretary’s) warnings about the many machinations of the NGO’s that is all.

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By: Burning_Issue https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57056 Fri, 23 May 2014 11:23:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57056 In reply to David Blacker.

You have missed the point Patriot has made!

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2014/05/20/a-response-to-the-critiques-of-the-victory-celebrations/#comment-57048 Fri, 23 May 2014 06:19:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=15465#comment-57048 In reply to Dev.

in spite of your attempts to intimidate me by suggesting i have called the president a liar (i haven’t even mentioned him) and derail the conversation into one on rumour and innuendo, i press you once more to instead engage with what Dayan is saying instead of why he is saying it. in case you missed it, my original comment about Dayan was simply in passing; the main point was the JVP.

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