Comments on: Generating Calamity, 2008-2014: An Overview of Tamil Nationalist Operations and Their Marvels https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels Journalism for Citizens Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Candidlee https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56755 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56755 In reply to Sri Lanka Campaign.

Because so-called renowned authors cite anonymous sources is no criterion for deciding that a statement is credible (think Tony Blair, George W. Bush and others re the invasion of Iraq). And of course at least one of those unknown renowned authors (Yasmin Sooka) is a member of your organization, along with Bruce Haigh the “renowned [Australian] author” who argues that terrorism of the Tamil Tigers variety is justifiable if it brings success. He has also written much the same about the terrorism of al-Qaida and the IRA, as is clear from reading his articles in ABC’s “The Drum”.
You are well aware of the views of this man justifying political assassinations and terrorism against civilians, yet you still allow him to have a leading position in your organization which has the nerve to have the words “Peace” in its title.
Anyway, it is noticeable that your organization is still unable to provide any evidence to justify its claim of deliberate mass killing of Tamil civilians by the Sri Lankan armed forces at the end of the war against terrorism in Sri Lanka in 2008-9. “Renowned authors” said it’s true is a feeble argument that would convince no fair-minded person.
Finally, you have not produced a single valid argument or piece of evidence to refute the evidence cited by Professor Roberts that the strategy of the Tamil Tigers and their supporters in the West in the final stage of the war was to try to induce large scale casualties amongst the Tamil civilians that they were hiding behind with the objective of inciting intervention by some Western powers with the aim of saving the lives of a core group of the terrorist leaders. Thankfully for everyone in Sri Lanka and India, that strategy by the Tamil Tigers did not succeed.

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By: Sri Lanka Campaign https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56747 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:58:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56747 In reply to Candidlee.

Credibility of internationally renowned authors of 2 UN reports > credibility of an anonymous person on the internet.

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By: Anpu https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56735 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:24:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56735 On the same day of publishing this article MRoberts has published http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2014/04/10/the-federal-party-emerges-seeking-self-determination-18-december-1949/ with the following notes.

The Editor of THUPPAHI welcomes reflective and analytical comments on this manifesto with the advantage of hindsight. These remarks should stay within the bounds of decency and be backed by citations where required. Only authors ready to disclose their names and present locations in space will be admitted to this body of commentary.

[1] This rare document has been made available through the good offices of Nirgunan Tiruchelvam and Ananda Chittambalam. In retyping it for public realm I have kept the capitalization of first letter in some words as well as the spelling of all words. I have also retained he punctuation or the absence thereof. Michael Roberts

[2]No map has been attached with the photocopy handed over to me. Michael Roberts

[3]As far as I know, other booklets were not published. If readers are aware of other documents in English or Tamil they should bring them to the attention of the reading world. Michael Roberts

I have not read the SJV’s speech yet. A friend of mine brought my attention to this speech with this comment “On reading his speech now, if it was not so to some then, the justification for the cause of the Tamils today is abundantly clear. Clearly it was a prescription for a united Sri Lanka and not one for a separation.”

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By: Fitzpatrick https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56732 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:48:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56732 May I suggest that GV editors in the future avoid articles from people like Robert’s who make unsubstantiated claims and when challenged go silent (Despite the formal request for comment from GV).
All this saga has shown is the motivations of people like Robert’s to preemptively disparage the investigation by the UNHCR that is about to commence.

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By: Candidlee https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56721 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:18:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56721 In reply to Sri Lanka Campaign.

There’s no need to elaborate. Your organisation is one of those that has made the accusations of mass civilian deaths, etc, so you have to provide the evidence. Why do the authors of the two UN reports refuse to divulge the names of the “credible sources” who “estimated that there could have been as many as 40,000 civilian deaths”. Where is the evidence? Where are the bodies or their remains? Where are the graves? Where are the lists of names of the dead?
It seems they are nowhere, except in the fertile imaginations of these who wish to punish the Sri Lankan people and government for defeating the Tamil Tigers.

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By: Dev https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56707 Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:24:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56707 3-4 days on, what does the stoic silence of the author Roberts meant to convey to the readers?

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By: Anpu https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56698 Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:53:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56698 In reply to Eusense.

Eusense,

Can you find out what happened to the boys and girls who appear on this article http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/16/leaked-photos-reveal-fate-of-tamil-prisoners/

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By: Anpu https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56696 Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:05:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56696 In reply to Eusense.

Eusense,

Balachandran Pirabaharan, Isaipiriya, Ramesh,…
Govt agent of mullaitivu might be able to help you with the rest. Number of people killed is based on the figures given by him/her. Page 44 http://transcurrents.com/tc/USTPAC_412_SU.pdf

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By: Fitzpatrick https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56695 Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:42:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56695 In reply to Eusense.

As I said below, the newly mandated UNHCR will give you the answer.

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By: Fitzpatrick https://groundviews.org/2014/04/10/generating-calamity-2008-2014-an-overview-of-tamil-nationalist-operations-and-their-marvels/#comment-56694 Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:35:00 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=14868#comment-56694 In reply to Eusense.

The UNHRC has now been authorized to investigate BOTH sides, let’s wait for that report then.

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