Comments on: THE BIG LIE ABOUT THE US RESOLUTION https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution Journalism for Citizens Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:51:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: What is the bigger lie? US resolution in Geneva or number of people in Vanni in 2009? | WATCHDOG Sri Lanka https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-55800 Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:51:03 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-55800 […] US resolution is innocuous and unobjectionable…” said Amb. Dayan Jayatilleka in his article THE BIG LIE ABOUT THE US RESOLUTION on 16th March 2012. It would be pertinent to question whether a bigger untruth in the public […]

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By: Wallflower https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-44934 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:46:25 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-44934 “We should act strategically, with the awareness that global powers will act based on their domestic interests” says Mr: Sambanthan, but unfortunately the leaders of this country do not seem to understand this and are playing into the hands of powers who would use our internal conflict to their advantage when the time is opportune. That would even mean drawing a demarcating line in the middle of our country and saying you stay here and let them stay on the other side. Nobody will ever be able to develop this country by alienating this country from the Regional as well as the Global powers, and thereby antagonizing them. Neither can this country be ever lifted out of this deep rut by being at loggerheads for ever with the minority communities. The sooner we change this present constitution and devolve more power to the periphery, the better our chances of remaining as one country.

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By: Arabinder https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-43022 Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:56:25 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-43022 In reply to David Blacker.

Dear David,
The answer is simple. One does not get into a Minefield specially laid out for you. What if we joined the resolution and then USA refused to alter anything at the negoitiations? We would have to leave the ‘party’, and all kinds of accusations would have been thrown at us. We are guilty, we don’t want to implement the LLRC report, we are not genuine etc., etc.
DJ did the same in 2009. He refused to join that party and offer comments and alterations. He fought from outside and successfully rubbed their noses in the mud of their own minefield. I salute him. He should have been in charge this time too.
It is funny that the biggest perpetrator of Human Rights violations in the world, USA, is talking HR and accountability.
I feel sorry foe Luxmy and some others. They still seem to be supporting the other biggest HR violators we have seen recently, namely Prabhkaran and the LTTE.

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By: Karava Gamage https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42834 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:27:19 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42834 Dr. Dayan, congratulations for UN resolution results. This is due intellectual prostitutes who replace career diplomats in Geneva and abroad (with half cooked leftist ideas in a remixed format).

I wish you understand the global realities and stay out of advisory roles for MoE. The country does not need this.

The confrontation approach towards West and USA that was maintained by yourself and others such as Prof.Rajiva is one of the courses for current predicament.

So I congratulate you.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42679 Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:03:10 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42679 In reply to Dr Dayan Jayatilleka.

I don’t disagree with your points, Dayan, but it still doesn’t explain why the GoSL is choosing a hard defense over engagement in regard to a largely toothless resolution. The criticism of the LLRC would probably have been dropped by the US if we engaged with them in the drafting as they have pushed for.

The GoSL is painting itself into a corner where it MUST win in Geneva at all costs if it is not to be humiliated at home. The GoSL made out the resolution to be as bad as an investigation, and incited people to protest it in the same manner. This is absurd, given the pointlessness of the resolution. However, the GoSL cannot now declare the resolution pointless because the locals will ask it what on earth the big deal is. The vocal protests from the GoSL has even convinced the diaspora that the resolution is worth supporting!

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By: a voter https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42675 Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:42:48 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42675 Dear Dr. D.J,
You mentioned this:
“It is almost a crime to lie to the people and mislead them on a matter of vital national interest.”
1. How will you respond to the statements made my government that there were only 70,000 civilians trapped in Vanni during the war.
2. How will you respond to the claim by the president himself that there was zero casualty during the final months of the war.
3. How will you respond to a statement that there is law and order in the country while even government MP involved in filling each other, and taking law in their own hands
4. What is you response to your own statement that you were once removed from UN position because you spoke about solution to the ethnic problem

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By: Dr Dayan Jayatilleka https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42657 Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:03:05 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42657 David, you deserve a cleare reply than the on I gave earlier.

1. It wasn’t the US that claimed the resolution was solely for securing the expeditious implementation of the LLRC. That smokescreen was laid down by its local puppets such as the dominant faction of the UNP, the TNA, the CPA etc. So, my critique was aimed at that lie, from those quarters.

2. Our problem in Geneva is not that we did not negotiate amendments with the USA. The tiny Palestinian delegation, with its friends (among whom I am lucky to be counted) beat a far more serious US diplomatic offensive at UNESCO and obtained membership. The Cubans win a 190-3 vote against the US every year at the UGA in New York.

3. The problem lies elsewhere: have we done what we need to, at home and abroad, in order to retain the winning coalition of May 2009? Have we kept our allies , our united front with us? have we safeguarded and sustained the Geneva Consensus? If we have/had, we have the option of going for a win or moving a counter tesolution or putting forward winning amendments not as Sri lanka alone but as a bloc. If not, not. This is a subject that I have focused on in my writings on GV and elsewhere, from 2008, the last year of the war, perhaps–or, probably–to little or no avail.

We don’t need to talk beyond a point to our hypocritical accusers, but we do have to talk sincerely to our friends, neighbours and allies.

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By: Dr Dayan Jayatilleka https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42653 Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:17:19 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42653 Frankly David, the relevance is that we should have got up close and personal with the resolution and its movers at the ‘interactive informal’, if needed in a close quarter combat mode. I did in 2009, but didn’t negotiate the text with them or suggest amendments. Today different tactics may be needed, but the essential point is to actively engage, use every space available to wage the battle of ideas, of narratives, of arguments.

Thilina Rajapaksa, I have never read MR’s election manifestos of 2005 and 2010. I supported him, as did the voters, not for his manifesto but because he was willing to stand up to the Tigers while Ranil had done the opposite(2005) and because he was the overall political leader on whose watch we won the war (2010). We had given two terms to his predecessor who could have but didn’t win the war.

As far as I am concerned, the only leader who stood by and strove to implement his election manifesto in some detail was R Premadasa. I supported him. He was murdered by the Tigers. I supported the man I correctly thought was willing to take them down.

By the way, I also support Putin, as do 65% of Russians.

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By: Orion https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42652 Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:12:09 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42652 Pandukabhaya,
Your observation that SL accepts aid and loans from UN institutions – I will add IMF and World Bank to the list – with many strings attached is a good point. For example World Bank requires an Environmental Impact study and applies a Conflict Filter – i.e. the project being funded should not bring conflict within or between communities etc. to the loan given. GSL sign on to all of that and more conditions to get the money and let WB monitor the projects and approve the next installment of the funds. There are projects where funding is not renewed for such and other reasons.

May be the US should have considered the LLRC report as a project that the GSL want funds to implement and included the dollar amount that it and those supporting countries would donate to implement the LLRC proposal on conditions that GSL would allow monitoring and review and the GSL would submit the report to the UNHRC later this year. Also, instead of letting those in power siphon off commissions that may make some of them feel guilty, a scheme for awarding Bonus can be devised for those who do their duty and are just.

Another option for US and the UNHRC would be to ask the GSL to submit the LLRC report as a project to the World Bank to fund it with the usual strings attached. That would be a lot of commissions from the top to the bottom. Such alternatives would have been very palatable to the GSL patriots and it would not have necessitated the GSL to send an “Armada” of loyal warriors at the expense of the Tax payers and obfuscated funds from the loans and aids.

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By: yapa https://groundviews.org/2012/03/16/the-big-lie-about-the-us-resolution/#comment-42644 Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:32:17 +0000 http://groundviews.org/?p=8855#comment-42644 ‘I don’t understand why champions of Tamil Eelam are supporting US Resolution on Sri Lanka at UNHRC’- ‘Thuglak’ Editor

‘Cho’http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/4795

Thanks!

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