Comments on: THE RANDIV-SEHWAG AFFAIR: MISTAKING THE WOOD FOR THE TREES https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees Journalism for Citizens Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:12:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: NAK https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22421 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:12:59 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22421 Everyone is concerned and comments on Randives and Dilshans Actions. What about those who created this situation. Normal cricket laws allow a batsmen the runs scored off a no ball, in which case there should not be any controversy even if a no ball is bawled. Now by changing this law to deny the batmen the runs he scored because the match was considered won on the penalty run for the no ball what those who changed the law expect? I wish Mr.Sunil Gavaskar explain why because if batsman is on 99 and only one run is needed to win the match and the batsman scores a boundary four runs will be added to the total and to the batsmans personal score. There the batsman will be 103 notout and not 100 notout because only one run was needed to end the match.What my personal feeling is these things are designed for use of rich countries where these same pundits will “say no rules were broken” and end of the story. As for applying pressure on umpires by loud, prolonged and vociferous appeals, such things are said by only those who do not know what umpiring is all about. When an appeal is made the umpire has to apply the relevant law/laws and make his mind on a decision. The length or loudness of the appeal has no bearing on it, not even the reactions of the fielders or the batman should not be considered because we all know that they can be misleading. And if an umpire allows himself to be pressurised it is his own fault. If an umpire knows how to conduct match (which every umpire should know)then there is no room for applying pressure on the umpire.

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By: longus https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22368 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:52:20 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22368 In this slow boring game called cricket, which is full of funny rules, an element of imperialist hang-over is still there.-the so called “gentlemanly” or whatever nature….- This will make the North Americans laugh their heads off!

Anyway, going back to the subject of “spoiling the spirit of the game”, as krish has pointed out the worse case scenario has been the under-arm delivery by Trevor Chappel in the 70′-which went unpunished! How can you punish thugs like Lillee, Ian Chappel,Lawson, Thompson, Hogg and the likes? You have to send them to a correctional facility! Can you remember Deniss Lillee kicking Javed Miandad’s (another thug!) butt in 82′ during a Test match in Australia?Anyway they seem to have learnt their lessons after so many years and grey hairs and they are considered respectable commentators now!

Even when the game of cricket was “true gentleman’s and Holier than thou’s” game in 1930s the infamous incident of “bodyline bowling” sent shock waves through the British Empire!

So, this is no big deal to write colmns about!

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By: Krish https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22360 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:10:59 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22360 Watched this on youtube with interest! Not sure what to say. Ideally, you would expect Suraj Randiv to get Sehwag’s wicket, especially when he was on 99. No matter what the other team’s score is, the bowler should try to get wickets. It is sort of funny and ironical that someone on 99 isn’t able to get one run out of the required 5 especially when he is on strike. Poor sportmanship, probably yes! But cricket has had worse instances like Trevor Chappel’s underarm after Greg Chappel advised him to. Such instances cost a match for the opposing side. Atleast, Randiv’s bowling didn’t alter the outcome of the game, although Sehwag was unlucky. BTW, for all the noise about Randiv, India was all out for 103 today. How about poor batsmanship for a change? Seriously, this is real bad play!

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By: PresiDunce Bean https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22359 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:59:08 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22359 Didn’t the Sri Lankan team make sustained appeals with the intention of pressuring umpires when Murali used to bowl, with fielders hovering around the batsman?
Doesn’t Sangakkara sledge from behind the wicket?
Will Randiv and Dilshan be tied to two trees as a punishment for the no-ball which denied Shewag a century?

In my book the only gentleman who played for Sri Lanka in recent times was Marvan Attapatu! Sri Lanka cricket today is going the way Sri Lanka politics has gone. TO WIN by hook or by crook using any kind of Jilmart. Thankfully there are neutral umpires and neutral match referees to oversee the game. Just Imagine what would happen if the President appointed the umpires and match referees for every game played by Sri Lanka? Need I say more?

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By: Travelling Academic https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22356 Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:31:58 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22356 A much enjoyable piece. However, with intentionality as criterion, I agree Randiv’s comes across as the worse offence. But Michael R’s letter is based on the damage suffered by the victim. He says unfair dismissal, due to an umpire erring under pressure half-way through the game, can potentially cost your side the game. Compare (a) me cheating the tax-man of 20 quid by intentionally misinterpreting rules when I fill the return, with (b) my aunt giving 20 quid to the Tigers, where her primary intention is simply getting rid of the fundraiser from her doorstep. her guilt is greater.

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By: Theena https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22355 Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:04:33 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22355 The problem, as I see it, is most cricket fans place the game on a high moral pedestal – that, somehow, in comparison to other games like rugby, football, cricket is a ‘gentleman’s game’, that should, supposedly, be free of any moral transgressions.

It isn’t. And it’s not because that statement is historically inaccurate: it has its roots in game’s genesis when it was only played by ‘gentlemen’, the aristocracy, and was used to give cricket an exclusivity that has slowly ebbed away. British colonialism ensured that that ridiculous adage would survive by replacing its classist motivations with a sense of moral superiority.

I maybe digressing from the current controversy, but I think our reaction – I use ‘our’ to mean the cricket media in India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan specifically – to supposed breaches of cricket’s spirit is coloured to by this legacy of misunderstanding and historical revisionism. The Randhiv-Sehwag incident is a classic case in point of just that and Professor Roberts’ article suffers from the same plight.

I am more disappointed in the letter itself rather than the mindset behind writing it. As a cricket buff I have a couple of prized books in my collection of Michael Robert’s writing on the subject, especially on Sri Lanka’s cricket history. Combining personal anecdotes with a sociologist’s attention to detail, his books overflow with insights that hint as to why we have embraced this game as completely as, say, Brazil has football.

His first point about Randhiv’s incident being no worse than sustained appealing opens a new can of worms in cricket’s troubled understanding of its own ‘spirit’. What about the practice of batsmen not walking when it is blatantly obvious that they are out? In my twenty years of being in love with this game, I have only known of one batsman who ‘walked’ when he knew he was out – and he was an Australian by the name of Adam Gilchrist.

Where does that leave the ones who don’t? Does Prof. Roberts expect them to be punished in the same manner as Randhiv has for his mistake? Cricket has, especially, in the last twenty years become a more batsman-friendly game – boundaries have become shorter, fast bowlers are restrained from bowling short-pitch deliveries, bats have become more powerful – and it would be a cruel, calculating, batsman-loving mind that would begrudge a bowler any advantage he can gain from gamesmanship as long as his actions are within the laws of the game.

Prof Roberts then points out that this great wrong of vociferous appealing has been committed by the Australians and South Africans. As a scientist, does Roberts have empirical evidence to prove this? If not, that statement is sadly nothing more than hearsay from the likes of rabid overtly nationalistic cricket fans.

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By: Java Jones https://groundviews.org/2010/08/22/the-randiv-sehwag-affair-mistaking-the-wood-for-the-trees/#comment-22350 Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:29:02 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=3918#comment-22350 Right on, Publius!

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