Comments on: VALEDICTORY FOR A SEASON https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=valedictory-for-a-season Journalism for Citizens Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:22:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Tamil https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14878 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:22:29 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14878 Commenting on “President Rajapakse had it right on the issue of the Tamil Tigers; the issue of fascist separatist-terrorism.”

Tamils and Tigers always had it right that Sihalese or any SL president/prime minister to date would offer nothing to Tamils, and on their facisit ethno superiority theorom. As it is repeatedly claimed SL is only for Sinhalese. SL can develop Sinhala identity but not national identity.

Authors such as Dayan will write rubbish like this, while thousands of Tamils held in barbed wired camps, years without trial in prisons, arbitarary arrests & killings by the government and turn their eyes away from the real problem.

Who are you trying to fool, the idiotic Sinhalese voters repeatedly elect government that has turned the South Asian country with most potential at the time of independence to a basket case. You do not need to fool them, they are idiots.

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By: NoEalamInSL https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14547 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:05:03 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14547 They say SF plotted to kill MR, killed Lasantha, private army, politics while CDS, treason and SF was arrested.

Dr. Dayan J, How justfiable is SF arrest? How should it be solved?

This is how CIA potted to kill Castro.

CIA Director Richard Helms on Ways to Kill Castro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6RuM1DZSJQ

Many assassination ideas were floated by the CIA during Operation Mongoose. The most infamous was the CIA’s alleged plot to capitalize on Castro’s well-known love of cigars by slipping into his supply a very real and lethal “exploding cigar.” http://secretsofthecia.blogspot.com/s… Other plots to do in Castro that are ascribed to the CIA include, among others: poisoning his cigars (a box of the lethal smokes was actually prepared and delivered to Havana); exploding seashells to be planted at a scuba diving site; a gift diving wetsuit impregnated with noxious bacteria and mould spores, or with lethal chemical agents; infecting Castro’s scuba regulator apparatus with tuberculous bacilli; dousing his handkerchiefs, his tea, and his coffee with other lethal bacteria; having a former lover slip him poison pills; and exposing him to various other poisoned items such as a fountain pen and even ice cream. The US Senate’s Church Committee of 1975 stated that it had confirmed at least eight separate CIA run plots to assassinate Castro. Fabian Escalante, who was long tasked with protecting the life of Castro, contends that there have been 638 separate CIA assassination schemes or attempts on Castro’s life.

The CIA operation was based in Miami, Florida and among its other aspects enlisted the help of the mafia to plot an assassination attempt against Castro; William Harvey was one of the CIA case officers who directly dealt with the mafioso John Roselli.

William King “Bill” Harvey (September 13, 1915 in Danville, Indiana – June 1976) was a CIA officer, best known for his role in Operation Mongoose. He was known as “America’s James Bond.”

Harvey was the son of Sara King Harvey, professor at Indiana State Teachers College in Terre Haute, Indiana, now Indiana State University. He graduated from Wiley High School in Terre Haute in 1931, eventually enrolling at Indiana University and then graduated from Indiana University School of Law – Bloomington. He married the daughter of a lawyer from Maysville, Kentucky but, after that marriage ended in divorce, he joined the FBI in December 1940. He resigned from the FBI in July 1947 after breaking a FBI regulation and refusing a resulting re-assignment to Indianapolis, Indiana. He joined the CIA shortly thereafter.

Operation Mongoose was a CIA operation from Miami, Florida, that enlisted the help of the Mafia to plot an assassination attempt against Fidel Castro, the Cuban president. Harvey was one of case officers who dealt with John Roselli.

Harvey was also posted to Berlin, Germany as station chief in the 1950s, where he led the operation that built an underground tunnel to the Russian sector, to spy on Russian communication channels. This operation was called PBJOINTLY.

Harvey died in 1976 from a heart attack. The previous year he testified before the Church Committee on the some of the CIA’s past operations.

John “Handsome Johnny” Roselli (July 4, 1905 – August 9, 1976) (sometimes spelled Rosselli), also known as “John F. Stewart” (July 4, 1905 to sometime between July 28 and August 9, 1976) was an influential mobster for the Chicago Outfit who helped them control Hollywood and the Las Vegas Strip. Roselli was also involved with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plot to kill Cuban Prime Minister Fidel Castro in the early 1960s. Some conspiracy theorists believe he was also involved with John Fitzgerald Kennedy’s assassination in 1963.

Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz (born August 13, 1926) is a Cuban politician, one of the primary leaders of the Cuban Revolution, the Prime Minister of Cuba from February 1959 to December 1976, and then the President of the Council of State of Cuba until his resignation from the office in February 2008. He is currently the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba.

He was born into a wealthy family and acquired a law degree. While studying at Havana University, he began his political career and became a recognized figure in Cuban politics. His political career continued with nationalist critiques of Fulgencio Batista, and of the United States’ political and corporate influence in Cuba. He gained an ardent, but limited, following and also drew the attention of the authorities. He eventually led the failed 1953 attack on the Moncada Barracks, after which he was captured, tried, incarcerated, and later released. He then traveled to Mexico to organize and train for an assault on Batista’s Cuba. He and his fellow revolutionaries left Mexico for the East of Cuba in December 1956.

Al Qaeda Doesnt exist-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4
Al Qaeda Doesnt exist-2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0

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By: NoEalamInSL https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14509 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:18:14 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14509 3. Dharshana, Conflict started with sidelining of SF without giving deserved credit to him. GR, MR wanted to sideline SF to elaborate own image to people. Even though GR, MR chose SR to be the Army Commander at the begning of war, later it boomeranged against popularity of MR & GR.

Being the president of the country by the time of war, MR has most credit of defeating LTTE. but it doesnt mean that we have to forget others who contributed to the victory. At victory celebrations, even patraits of SF were removed.

I have no issue with GR, MR, giving them the credit, my issue is not giving same credit for SF. He may have diferent political views, it is democracy. After sidelining SF, the mistrust between MR-SF grew up to a extent that they are paranoid of SF and charged him for ploting a coup. Being in the military for 40 year, SF must have his own fans and friends. SF might have got down friends and loyals to Colombo, now GR is claiming that was a part of the coup and want SF to be court martialled.

The statement of SF of tesifying for war crimes in Sri Lanka, it is merely keep GR suspense. That was a personal attack given under enormous pressure and intimidations on him by GR & MR. Even if SF is in custody or dead, his afidavit is already made and if he wanted he could have already sent it. Butif MR, GR keep harrasing him he will compell to do so.

By recalling all statements made by SF in the past defending Sri Lanka during 2006-2009, it is a pathetic situation for him to have treated this wat by the president to whom we have voted for freeing Sri Lanka while the strategist of the war is in a prison cell.

We know we can trust him(SF), perhaps it is hard to believe people around him(UNP,JVP.DNF,TNA,SLMC). That doesnt mean that we cant trust our General!

Taliking of Abrahim Lincon and Mahinda Rajapakse, Tamil citizens are our fellow citizens too. So by saying MR hasnt done such thing means Tamils are not our fellow citizens? I am not quite good in history and politics. I am talking with my common sense. I refer you to a political scientist, Dr. Dayan Jayathilake’s comment:

“It is interesting to contrast the bulk of the views ( and the dominant perspective) here with the Independence day essay on Sri Lanka by Lord Meghnad Desai, Professor Emeritus at the LSE, in which he writes with empathy about the Sri Lankan people, especially the Tamils and commends a path of reconciliation, WHILE PLACING MAHINDA RAJAPAKSE IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS ABRAHAM LINCOLN and explaining why he does so”
Link:
http://www.groundviews.org/2010/02/04/an-open-letter-to-the-remote-control-diaspora/#comment-14259.
Perhaps interesting for you to Dayan article on Lincon MR: http://www.groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/

About popularity, SF and MR both nationalists. We harldy know SF. SF can well be a threat, thats for sure. People vote Mahinda for gratitude, knowng he is a bad guy. Even I promoted him though I equally like SF.

I know MR wants to house arrest to avoid the threat of war crimes untill end of his term. But this is unnecessary fear. We will hang SF if he ever betray GR or MR or any other Sri Lankan and testify for war crimes, he will not.

I also invite you to visit my you tube channel “NoEalamInSL”

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Darshana said: “If Sarath Fonseka is realeased, the next thing he’d do is to take a flight to Netharlands and testify against SL for war crimes (which is what he was planning to do).

Is it that Sarath Fonseka is some kind of God that no one should take any action of him? Needless to say that after his political appearance he has made many allegations including human rights allegations against SL.

And talking abt the political involvements, i think it goes well beyond ‘allegations’ as JVP and UNP mps have admitted they had discussions with him when he was the army commander. Now what would they have discussed? Can’t be about the war situation cos UNP was hell bent against the war. It’s pretty obvious that they wanted a regime change. Is that something that should be allowed in the future? So that any army officer can hold discussions with oppostion and do whatever they want. definitely no…. See More

And talking abt Abraham Lincon, he killed lakhs of fellow americans to unite USA. Mahinda hasn’t done that. Fonseka is not a political threat to him. In fact, he couldnt even find a party to get nominations for the general election. It is about stopping fonseka from completing his contract to the west to stop charging Sri Lanka with war crimes and putting embargos against Sri Lanka and what not. ”

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We urge government to release General Fonseka immediately. Do no take advantage from alleged political involvement during presidential campaign and apply military rules on him. Sri Lanka is a democratic country and we respect different political views. Do not preach military laws in Sri Lanka. People must rise up against arrest of General. He saved our lives, we will fight for his life. He played a crucial role in defeating LTTE. Do not harrass him. Stop nepotism.

Prof. G.L. Peiris today said that retired General Sarath Fonseka was being tried for charges under the military laws enacted in 1949 and that there was nothing unusual about this. if the military did not have laws it was difficult to maintain discipline in a military establishment.

I thought MR was Abrahim Lincon type guy, but apparently heading towards Polpot type!

If General Fonseka is tried under military law, then Mahinda Rajapaks and Goatabaya should also be tried in an international court o atleast Sri Lankan court. Dont let blowout of proportion.

The Arrest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdMsiIY0yJw
The Democracy, Monarchy, Military Regime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAomukK2f8
The evidences http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liQlig1Xwyg

Release General Now!

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By: Jaffna Tamil... https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14506 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:50:46 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14506 –old Man said,

February 11, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

to add to the above:

Is Dayan J a Stalinist at heart, rather than a democrat?–

Dayan is neither, just an unprincipled opportunist willing to sell his mouth and pen to the highest bidder. One can never buy his soul as it is only loyal to Dayan.

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By: old Man https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14497 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:28:05 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14497 to add to the above:

Is Dayan J a Stalinist at heart, rather than a democrat?

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By: old Man https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14495 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:15:17 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14495 The Chechnyan solution would involve the appointment of Karuna or Douglas Devananda to run the province.

It also came at a heavy price: to quote the Guardian: “In return for peace Chechnya has been transformed into a totalitarian fiefdom with a flourishing personality cult that might make North Koreans blush. Grozny’s streets are lined with ubiquitous portraits of one man – Chechnya’s bearded 31-year-old president Ramzan Kadyrov. Kadyrov’s distinctive features can be seen at bus stops, along boulevards, and at the airport, where a giant poster shows him holding a bunch of pink flowers. Nightly local TV bulletins heap praise on the youthful pro-Moscow leader.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/22/russia

This may also explain why Dayan J has been pushing so hard for something unattainable – the 13th has no takers either in the government or even within the opposition – instead of advocating the simple measures that will really help: the repeal of the emergency to be followed later perhaps the repeal of the PTA and Press Council Acts .

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By: Beewhy https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14487 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:41:25 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14487 MR is now imitating VP. God bless Sri Lanka…….No matter how best it is analysed the bottom line is obvious…..Dictatorship……first opressed the Tamils in the name of WAR….now opresses the Sri Lankans in the name of PEACE….

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By: Grim.Hope.2009 https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14465 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:35:12 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14465 Dayan Jayatilleka is blinded by his hate for Ranil and UNP since he was not included. Just like any other sociological analysis, the put forwards the facts to prove his points. These theoretical analysis of things are useless. The facts remains facts. If people knew what MR did in the south when he got elected first, they will understand what he is doing now. Just like Prabhakharan only knew of the gun and bullet, MR only knows of his decades old thug tactics. MR will never solve the ethnic problem he has managed to divide the country even further. This is no longer an oppression of the Minority, it’s an oppression of the Sri Lankans.

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By: Lankan Thinker https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14463 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:14:54 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14463 Dear Wijayapala,

I agree with you that not all aspects of the Apey Swarajya concepts are that appropriate. In particular the “no party” system is unlikely to work at all.

However, I think there is something to be learned from the principles of representation and accountability described in the proposal.

Also, whilst Mr. Ambedkar’s view of Indian villages may well be true, is it not a noble aspiration to empower local people, whether they be in villages or towns to elect representatives who will advocate for them at higher levels of government and at the same time be accountable to them? Also, isn’t there a possibility that such empowerment, if coupled with improvements in education and understanding of civic responsibility, will actually raise these local communities above the level of “sinks of localism, a den of ignorance, narrow mindedness and communalism”?

Thank you for responding to my post.

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By: wijayapala https://groundviews.org/2010/02/10/valedictory-for-a-season/#comment-14456 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:21:38 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/?p=2718#comment-14456 Dear Lankan Thinker,

UB Wijekoon might be a far more civilized person than those who currently are in power, but his “Grama Rajya” idea (not too different from Mahinda’s “village devolution”) would be a disaster. This idea was originally articulated by Mahatma Gandhi and strongly criticized by Dr. Ambedkar, the father of the Indian Constitution, who said:

“The love of the intellectual Indian for the village community is of course infinite, if not pathetic….What is a village but a sink of localism, a den of ignorance, narrow mindedness and communalism?

This concept was implemented by Ayub Khan in Pakistan (“Basic Democracy”) and by King Mahendra in Nepal (“Panchayat” or “partyless” democracy). In both countries, this concept effectively diluted the political process and made it easy for the Chief Executive to maintain control.

Sri Lankans have a funny notion that eliminating parties will help the country, when it will actually make things far worse.

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