Comments on: I think it’s stupid, do you? https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=i-think-its-stupid-do-you Journalism for Citizens Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Leanie Meanie https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-9434 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:52:38 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-9434 I think it’s stupid that more people don’t realize the truth of (most of) what Sophist has said…

…and I think it’s stupid that, of the few who do realize, many will nevertheless pooh pooh it as being “only a minor matter”, and fail to see that it’s NOT minor; or will keep silent among people whom they can influence (for the better) because they don’t wanna ‘rock the boat’.

Following from that, I also think it’s stupid and SAD that the root of most of our problems is that a large number of fairly well meaning people are just too naive in their understanding of various issues: they turn a blind eye to what they (for whatever reason) perceive as “only a minor matter” and they don’t see how in the big picture it is a major problem which can contribute to larger problems in the very fabric of society. E.g., some of us Stereotypical Colombo Elite just don’t understand that the purpose behind the IDP camps is quite possibly not what our leaders make out, but worse. Or, e.g., they don’t see that – as Sophist rightly points out – the killing of that one fellow was any really victory (because they don’t understand that terrorism wasn’t the root problem to begin with – they don’t see the seemingly minor things like Osu Sala not having signs in Tamil, at least when I last went there many months ago, is not a minor matter.) They don’t see that flying the Lion Flag and celebrating in the streets to rejoice that one terrorist was incapacitated, is, in the big picture, a mistake, because too many other people are rejoicing in the wrong way (E.g, as Sophist correctly points about one religion’s flag) and they don’t see that our publicly joining such a ‘celebration’ can perhaps just cause unfair fear among innocent minorities.

And, in the same vein – and I assume Sophist will take this criticism “without getting [annoyed]” – I think it’s stupid that Sophist himself appears to admit to taking ganja, and thus apparently does not see that use of even this soft drug IS, in the big picture, something bad for the well being of society as a whole. I think it’s stupid that even highly intelligent people all too often have their Achilles’ Heel in this sense and treat such matters lightly, and just do not understand the moral and ethical reasons why even such “minor” drug use and other intoxication is bad for society AS A WHOLE even if some specific individuals might be able to handle it without harm to themselves. (The individual are not stupid; but their FAILING to see this big picture, is stupid.)

I think it’s stupid that there are only a very few people who think like this AND who CAN convey their thoughts succinctly — my clumsy rambling writing herein clearly exemplifying my inability to; and i think it’s stupid that some of the people who CAN do so, just don’t wanna rock the boat and don’t speak out.

(I didn’t understand about being clapped into jail: maybe I’m stupid, but I sure don’t know of anyone who willfully or even unwillfully broke any (valid) law and then expected sympathy for being clapped into jail.)

I think I’m stupid to bother writing this 🙁
Who’s gonna care, after all. Just a lone voice in wilderness.

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By: Heshan https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7197 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:25:14 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7197 You are missing the forest for the trees. The point I am making is that Japan is much better off than any other oriental country, although South Korea comes a close second. China does not even come close. China is not even a G10 nation. Of course Chinese are everywhere – this is because China has the largest population. It has nothing to do with the prosperity of China or overseas Chinese.

You contradict your whole argument when you say that the Vietnamese government sponsors Vietnamese students to study overseas. What that implies is that these students do not have the means to pay for their own studies. Which shows that Vietnam is POOR… exactly as I have pointed out in this thread. The Japanese government does not need to support Japanese students to study abroad because the Japanese can easily afford the cost. Do you know what living standards refer to? Japan has much higher living standards than Vietnam. This is because Japan is much more developed than Vietnam.

I stick to my earlier argument that Japanese study business in much greater numbers than all other Asians. I am not bothered to look up your so-called “statistics.” You can post them links to them yourself, which is what you should do be doing if you know how to argue properly anyways.

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By: Ratnayake https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7159 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:54:55 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7159 You only have a view of one place. There are thousands of Vietnamese Americans and their dependents now in the US studying at a lot of universities in the US in Business and I.T. Some are sponsored by the Vietnamese Govt and have jobs waiting for them. Check Midwestern Universities. Chinese are everywhere in the US. Check Business school enrollments in the top tier and second tier universities. Of course before 9.11 there were many Saudis studying business and a lot of other fields.

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By: Halitosis https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7158 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:52:09 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7158 “I’ll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don’t believe that persuasion isn’t going to work. Therapy isn’t going to cause terrorists to change their mind.” -George W Bush.

Same applies for Tiger terrorists.

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By: Heshan https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7150 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:15:06 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7150 *How many other Asian or Middle-Eastern nations will send their best and brightest overseas just to study business?

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By: Heshan https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7149 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:10:56 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7149 By relative standards, Iran, Iraq, and Vietnam are failures. Just ask Japan, which America helped to rebuild after WWII.

At the university, I see many, many Japanese exchange students. I hardly see a Vietnamese, Iranian, or Iraqi student. What is even more interesting is that the majority of these Japanese students study business, unlike the majority of Indians or Chinese who clamor for engineering and medicine, to the extent of even outperforming the native population.

Is technology in Japan so good that Japanese exchange students choose business as their primary field of study? How many other Asian nations will send their best and brightest overseas just to study business? Perhaps one of these days I just might run into a Iraqi business studies major…

Now we get to the point… why is Japan so successful, despite Americans dropping nuclear bombs on them and occupying the place? I will leave it “Observer” and Co. to provide the answers. Although it might be tough going – none of that anti-Western dribble says much about “constitution” or “education.”

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By: Observer https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7142 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:56:18 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7142 “Iran is a failure because of Iranians.

Vietnam is a failure because of Vietnamese.

Iraq is a failure because of Iraqis. ”

Only a bigot would say such things! Americans are the best rest are idiots.. what a load of horse crap. Through the sands of time, they will fade into the abyss of past like many other empires did and new world orders would rise up. We will be mere dust by then, satisfactorily blowing in the wind knowing we laid a foundation for the generations to follow having fought for freedom and peace!

I don’t even belong to those racial groups and I find those statements utterly offensive. SomeWhatDisgusted is exactly right about Heshan. In fact I understood that after few discussions and decided to put my time to better use. In Internet terms a troll with too much spare time.

I don’t hate Tamil people unlike heshan hates the Sinhala Buddhists. If I did I’d celebrate people like heshan and hope for more. They are the reason we “won” the “battle”. In any battle you only have to fear the logically reasoning, moderate and sensible.

You can lie all you want but you won’t fool the sharp. And repetition doesn’t render false into the truth. People blinded by racial hatred becomes easy puppets for manipulation.

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By: Heshan https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7108 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:42:31 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7108 Iraqi’s have total freedom of movement, displaced or not.

Yes, democracy is coming to Tiger areas… barbed-wire democracy! In what kind of election do people vote from behind barbed wire – what an original idea that only Mahinda Chinthanaya could come up. Next up – soldiers will escort all the children back and forth to school.

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By: Halitosis https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7105 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:23:44 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7105 There are 2 million refugees 6 years after “mission accomplished” languishing in Syria and Jordan.
There are a million IDPs inside Iraq.
oh yes democracy is coming to the Tiger fascist areas.
http://in.reuters.com/article/southAsiaNews/idINIndia-40596220090625

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By: Heshan https://groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7094 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:38:49 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2009/06/08/i-think-its-stupid-do-you/#comment-7094 The real question is, how many Iraqi’s were killed by Arab insurgents and how many were killed by American soldiers themselves? The Americans have never actually colonized another country; though they have occupied them (temporarily). The occupations have been largely successful – Japan, West Germany, Phillipines, South Korea. The puppet Governments it backed in South Vietnam and Iran failed – but what is the condition of South Vietnam and Iran today? The Iranians chose some outdated Islamic poppycock over Western-Style democracy; today they cannot even hold a free and fair election.

Iran is a failure because of Iranians.

Vietnam is a failure because of Vietnamese.

Iraq is a failure because of Iraqis.

It’s as simple as that. Of course the failure is by relative standards. All I can say is that these nations would be far more prosperous if they accepted Western-style democracy, which the USA was willing to help implement, free of charge. Look at Israel, the only real democracy in the Mid-East & good friend of the USA.

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