Comments on: THE CHALLENGE BEFORE THE UNP https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-challenge-before-the-unp Journalism for Citizens Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:36:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Dayan Jayatilleka https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-612 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:36:37 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-612 CHE ???

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By: Visions for the UNP « IxList https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-611 Tue, 01 May 2007 13:24:57 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-611 […] Posted on May 1st, 2007. What an piece this is, from the clarity of the prose to the razor-edged logic behind the conclusions. To be honest, I know fuck-all about the intricacies of Sri Lankan politics (despite dinner party pretensions to the contrary), but this piece of truly Jeffersonian, sweeping the reader along on a tide of optimism, until she can only but feel the change in the air. […]

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By: sada pahara https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-610 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:31:42 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-610 The anti mahinda tirade and the pro Ranil paean by the author is but a repetition of political affiliations of the writers’ ultimately clouding the real issues. Ranil needs to be a strong leader, now more than ever. However, a person who has failed to rise to the occasion for more than a decade should be thought to have even to have forgotten as to how to stand up from the lethal slumber

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By: Che https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-609 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:04:31 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-609 Ah, Sittingnut…I had been wondering where you were.

Your analysis re (a) the dynamics of PR; (b) Ranil’s opinion of himself and its consequences; and (c) Ranil’s actual attitude to ethnic conflict resolution, I think, are all absolutely spot on. Which is where I think Publius is being unduly hopeful about the UNP’s capacity to play an effective and desirable role as a parliamentary opposition in Sri Lanka’s democracy.

You are right that Agamemnon laid Troy to waste and carried all before him, but also remember that he returned home to a gruesome death at the hands of his own wife. The point being that Clytemnestra and Orestes may have been thwarted had he had the good sense or humility to listen to Cassandra. The way this government is behaving, the historically closer sense of deja vu is, quite alarmingly, how similar it is to the Premadasa presidency.

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By: sittingnut https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-608 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:44:15 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-608 defections do not matter all that much in the sense that unp vote bank of 30-35% will not change all that much. in the same way it wont matter much that anura etc were suspended from cabinet to slfp. given the pr system what will decide the elections when they come is how the two parties will form alliances at the next elections in order to get the most votes, thus the bonus seat in each district, which decides elections here. given all the ppl in there now it will be much more difficult for slfp to form an alliance with jvp in the future. so to an extent election will be decided by how much votes an independently contesting jvp will be able to get. ironically more they get better for the unp. we will soon see some pro unp and until now very anti jvp media changing course. watch sirasa/mtv in particular.

all evidence indicate that ranil has a tendency to underestimate his political opponents ( bc his own supposed cleverness for intrigues and plotting) rather than a gift for prophecy.

it happened in 94 when he was pushed out from unp leadership by gamini dissanayake, he failed to topple pa government even when he had the opportunity in 99-00 for some obscure reason and then lost two elections in those years. he won in 01 in spite of himself. and then underestimated cbk in nov 03 to apr 04 which resulted in defeat. he depended too much on tiger’s goodwill to win the 05 election, with the result when they betrayed him, he had no backup plan to get the tamil vote out in government controlled areas as he should have.
too much dependence on one’s cleverness in manipulating political actors ( like mps, parties, ltte etc)is bad in a democracy. in the end it depend on who has the natural ability to influence ( or manipulate if any one here wants to call it that ) the public, the main actor. ranil failed there repeatedly

its a pity bc i always vote for him and do think that his government of 01-03 is one of the best with regard to the economy, if not with regard to conflict with tigers (though his actual position is not clear cut as most ppl in both camps believe)

agamemnon’s hubris! hmm…. at least he won his war. lets hope mahinda wins his too.

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By: aiyo https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-607 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:17:10 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-607 Like David D-C, I have just come across this website and am impressed by it. I like he quality of writing, to which I won’t be able to contribute much, and the general absence of abuse trading that seems to characterise so many other fora dealing with Sri Lankan politics.

Generally one gets the impression that Ranil is not up to much unless it is handed to him on a plate. When he was confronted with take away service during the recent defections, he was just left spluttering.

However he did behave out of character in the months between his election and the LTTE’s withdrawal from talks with his Government. For once, it appeared that the Government had the LTTE on the back foot diplomatically. The LTTE appeared to be panting to keep up with the Government’s swift moves to bring about some normalcy in the country. In the end the LTTE gave up since that diplomacy showed the LTTE do not yet have the capacity to transform themselves into an organisation that can provide responsible representation for the Tamil people.

I’m left wondering whether the UNP has another positive spurt of energy similar to what they had in the early ceasefire days. If they do, it would be a welcome counter to all the negative energy swilling around the current government. The Government may be favourites in the nation at the moment, but that’s little indication of the country’s health. One could have said the same about democratially elected politicians like Hitler in 1933, Thatcher after the Falklands War, SWRD Bandaranaike in 1956 and JR in 1983. However none of them is likely to claim a place in the history books as contributing to a reasonably happy and integrated society.

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By: groundviews https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-606 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:21:46 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-606 Editors note: The document referred to in Che’s comments can be found at http://www.asiafoundation.org/Locations/srilanka_publications.html

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By: Che https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-605 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:19:31 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-605 Here is an extract from Suranimala’s ‘Inside Politics’ column in today’s Sunday Leader:

“Added Wickremesinghe, “All the members who were theoreticians have left. The only practical man in that group is Gamini Lokuge. They all used to come with theories. I also used to act on their theories on the peace process, international relations and the economy. Now they have left with their theory books and come to your side. I can now adopt a practical approach and decide what is best suited for the country, which you too will have no problems with.”

This comment saw Minister Sooriyaarachchi telling Anura Kumara Dissanayake that Wickremesinghe’s comment appeared a “long term talk,” with the JVP member nodding his assent…”

Clearly, Publius is in dream cuckoo land if he thinks his prescriptions for the UNP has any traction with RW’s current thinking, who has retreated to the comforting foothills of the old UNP’s glorification of pragmatism in the face of adversity (see for e.g. this point made by David Rampton & Asanga Welikala in their analysis of Southern politics in the Strategic Conflict Assessment 2005)

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By: David - DC https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-604 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:56:14 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-604 s lengthy parliamentary and ministerial experience, his sense of restraint, competence and integrity." That the author stopped short of recommending that Mr. Wickremesinghe himself was suitable for the position of Executive was interesting, and I wonder where the author is going to find these qualities in the present political set up.]]> Congrats on a great website that I came across by chance and will keep coming back to. Great content, this article included. I noted in particular “Sri Lanka deserves a chief executive who has Mr. Wickremasinghe’s lengthy parliamentary and ministerial experience, his sense of restraint, competence and integrity.” That the author stopped short of recommending that Mr. Wickremesinghe himself was suitable for the position of Executive was interesting, and I wonder where the author is going to find these qualities in the present political set up.

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By: J-Lo https://groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-603 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:17:50 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/09/the-challenge-before-the-unp/#comment-603 Mahinda as a sitting plum – now there’s something I’d rather not imagine. Deane’s point is true though – all the polls, and not just in the Daily News, suggest that he’s riding a high wave of public support. I think the camps are divided about the use of the F word – and I mean even amongst those who support federalism. Some say better to use it openly, others say much better to go with the concept rather than the F word itself. And as Publius pointed out earlier, seems that even the good Prof. who support the F word is now shying away from it.

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