Comments on: After Today’s BMICH Explosion https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=after-todays-bmich-explosion Journalism for Citizens Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:41:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: TropicalStorm https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-3722 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:41:13 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-3722 This is the stereo-typical minority biased writing which results leading a majority to become less sensitive over a long period of time. In reality these articles are counter-productive to the intended reaction since though some in the minorities would wholeheartedly agree, the vast majority will feel more incenced.
Even during the height of the JVP insurrection thousans of younger folk who were stopped by the armed forces were let off without any problems. I was one of them, and have been stopped more times than I can even recall. And then there were the people they went after, some of whom met with an unpleasant end. In retrospect we have come to realize that the folks who met such a fate always had some involvement with the anti-government communist violence.

It is unfortunate that the tamil youth of today are facing this situation, which was caused by the actions of their own parents. Those who sow the seeds of chaos, often reap the whirlwind and sometimes it touches their next generation too.

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By: sash https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-549 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:37:31 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-549 hi i know i might be out of topic but just a general question to all to see what your opinions are, if i’m not wrong LTTE wants a separate land just for tamils in the north right? that means no muslim or sinhalese or other people are allowed. so if the government gives them what they want they stop the war. so then logically that means every tamil person has to leave colombo and etc.. to go and live in north under LTTE government since that’s gonna be their new homeland. (how very weird it’s gonna be)
is that how this theory suppose to work? caz i sincerely don’t understand these LTTE people because i sincerely don’t think every tamil person agrees to what LTTE is doing. they talk only about tamil people’s right then what about people who’re 1/2 sinhalese and 1/2 tamil, they’ll kill the sinhalese parent just because the person was born to a different family with a tag called sinhalese given by the society.
it’s just crazy sorry to say this but maybe if srilanka didn’t get the indipendace from british things would have been better more developed less corrupted multicultural and with a strong economy. maybe another australia. then people would have had other things to worry about.

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By: David Blacker https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-548 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:56:42 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-548 Trep, yes, training can’t eliminate all emotion. But seeing a colleague or friend killed doesn’t induce a soldier to go out and kill or harrass innocents. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen; it does. But usually those reactions are by soldiers who are flawed anyway. Most of the harrassment faced by civilians has nothing to do with revenge or even reaction, but more to do with a casual brutality that military life fosters (and not just in SL). My response was because I feel your comment suggests that individual emotions dictate how soldiers treat civilians. They don’t.

Mal, as you know, your way of fighting the war (as we did back in the ’80 and ’90s) failed. The GoSL learned from those mistakes and is fighting differently now, smarter. That’s why we’re winning. But you’re excused for not knowing your country’s military history. After all, you live in Australia and would have been around 7 years old when ‘Balavegaya I’ was being fought.

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By: Des https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-547 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:08:55 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-547 I think this is an excellent discussion to the extent that herein lies most of the views across the divide. If we can find a way to understand each other then this debate is what is needed at the society level and we may see the end to this conflict.

Its hard work, but hey, thats why this conflict has been there for a very long time.

Maybe we need to stick to some basic rules such as avoiding blame, attack, judgement and sarcasm, which I don’t think there has been much of, but nevertheless easily creeps in and creates a reactionary cycle of responses. I would suggest that we also give up simple concepts like right and wrong and take a broader view.

Lets also appreciate everyone’s views and make sure that everyone has the opportunity to express fully. I hope there is no censoring of comments by the admin unless there are clear words of abuse. Still, I would be happy if the abuse words are deleted and the rest is posted. I also hope no one is being excluded.

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By: foobar https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-546 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:00:17 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-546 “If in doubt, shoot first.”

Oh my. The brave diaspora speaketh.

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By: JustMal https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-545 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:53:58 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-545 Trep, I think you’ve answered your own questions. You do agree that the soldiers don’t have any choice in what they do, and what they do is absolutely vital to the security of millions of people in Colombo such as you and… not me. My point was that the Tamils have no one but themselves to blame for this state of things. They had a great opportunity under the UNP government to choose the path of peace but they refused to meet Ranil’s goodwill initiatives halfway through and continued to support the LTTE’s ideology of mayhem. How have the Tamils reciprocated to the dismantled checkpoints and barriers, the embargoes and restrictions that were lifted, and the many development projects that were started in the North and East. They voted for TNA in packs and hordes, that’s how.

It is a fundamental duty of any government to fight terrorism and seperatism. Tamils only suffer because they did nothing to push the LTTE away from that path. What have the Tamil civil society and media done to tame and civilise the LTTE. While the Sinhala peace activists were at war with the “Sinhala chauvinists”, the Tamil peace lobby sees eye to eye with Tamil seperatists and terrorists on every issue. When the Sinhala peacemakers try to rein in the excesses of the government and military, the Tamil society defends and justifies the same of the LTTE. CPA probably doesn’t have the guts to publish this, but could anyone say it isn’t true? Have there ever been any genuine criticism of the LTTE and other extremists within the Tamil civil society except for “boys will be boys”? Where’s the Northern equivalent of the mass mobilisation for peace and reconcilation initiated by SCOs and other groups in the South? A war against terrorists could only be fought successfully if the government could match their ruthlessness. Of course there will be mass detentions, disappearances, executions, abductions, embargoes, aerial bombings and others. That’s the only way they could fight the LTTE with the limited resources, manpower and technology they’ve got. If in doubt, shoot first.

Many people will suffer and Tamil civilians who may not be directly involved in the war will be subject to most of the difficulties. But they’ve brought it upon themselves for allowing the LTTE to fight on their behalf. They could only change their plight by changing themselves and then changing the LTTE. The government has nothing to gain by putting roadblocks all over the city and arresting thousands of people. They’ll stop all that if the LTTE stops bombings. Only the Tamils could force it to.

By the way Trep, I’m not upset that you left out the Sinhalese. Unlike some, we Sinhalese don’t take pride in being the object of other people’s sympathy.

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By: Che https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-544 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:11:37 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-544 It is utterly unacceptable that the LTTE’s terrorism should be equated with Tamils, just as much as the rampant State terrorism that we are seeing unleashed against citizens of all ethnicities should be attributed to only the Sinhalese majority that controls the State.

As for agendas, hidden or otherwise, I have no time for conspriracy theories that attack legitimate expressions of the the culture of fear and impunity that we all experience under the jackboot of the State and the LTTE, without offering an alternative to this depresing situation, or by refusing to accept that things have to change fundamentally in the way we understand and conduct politics in our country. Why has politics in SL have to be such a miserable distopia and life so nasty, brutish and short?

Disingenuous and selective comparisons to constitutional democracies in the West are not only cynical and irrelevant, but also mischievous. To compare constitutionally protected freedom and liberty of citizens in those countries is not only farcical, but also callous in terms of what our people have to endure everyday. Every society has its problems of managing diversity, but to suggest that the West is even remotely a comparison to the environment in which such debates are conducted (or not) in our case, is spurious and profoundly un-funny.

Apart from Kadalay’s laudable common sense (and foobar’s responses in certain respects), this discussion in response to an honest expression of what it is to live under conditions of LTTE terrorism and State repression by t-rep, is a terrible reflection on what our society is today: brutalised, mean, narrow-minded, and totally incapable of salvation.

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By: trep https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-543 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:48:15 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-543 Hi Marikkar, I am hearing you say that Sinhalese people have similar fears and you feel angry that this article could be biased. I can also understand that you would feel angry if you hear such bias.
For my part, I would like to say that I wasn’t trying to leave out what the Sinhalese community goes through. Fear of bomb blasts affects every body in Colombo, and Sinhalese people feel they are the targets of bomb blasts. So if I seemed to exclude the Sinhalese community I apologise. Does that clarify at all what I meant Marikkar?

To clear up any confusion about who is posting, I have no connections with Groundviews or CPA. Just as this site is meant to be for citizen, independent views, I was expressing my personal views.

Justmal, I am reading that you similarly thought I was leaving out the Sinhalese community, and I would like to say that I didn’t mean to. I was trying to say that we need to look at things from the point of view of forces also and that they might not see choice in what they do.

David, sorry I didn’t express clearly in that line. Yes soldiers are definitely trained to handle themselves. What I meant was that sometimes even trained soldiers may not be able to control how they feel when they see a colleague killed.

Kadalay I agree, just take away our names and we are all similar.

Your views please~

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By: foobar https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-542 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:28:28 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-542 Kadalay, good thoughts – but how exactly do you propose going about what you mention should be done?

No offence, but these are ideas which are often said to hold the key to peace, reconciliation and what not, but no one really has an idea about how to actually go about putting into actions these lofty ideals no?

And frankly, why erase identities? Isn’t it better to celebrate who you are rather than erase what makes you a Sri Lankan, whether you are Sinhala, Burgher, Tamil, Malay, Bora, Muslim etc? Kind of linked to the multicultural debate that Publius and JustMal responded to in Indi’s post a while ago on this blog.

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By: groundviews https://groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-541 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:18:51 +0000 http://www.groundviews.org/2007/02/06/after-todays-bmich-explosion/#comment-541 Dear “Ryan”,

Groundviews was set up by CPA, in case you didn’t notice. As noted in the Site Guidelines (does anyone read this?!), we promote difference and divergence, provided the comments don’t emanate from known trolls or those who don’t have anything to say, and proceed to say it anyway.

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