Bodu Bala Senā and Buddhism’s militant face in Sri Lanka

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One of the first things I had to do in the new year was to firmly remind my (Lankan) Facebook friends to avoid posting or tagging me to any anti-Muslim rhetoric that is growing in an organized manner.  A systemic and sequential anti-Muslim campaign is taking place in many parts of the island (as we observe now) largely mobilized by a Saṅgha led lay organization called Bodu Bala Senā – BBS (or Forces of Buddhist Power). While we are unaware of the legal status, finding sources and possible powerful political backing, their public face in a www site gives a glimpse of the structure and nature of this undoubtedly ‘Buddhist’ organization. My first reading of their public picture is impressive. They are well organized. More interactive/informative than many government websites. Modern, seem to seriously adhere and willing to stand for their socio-political beliefs irrespective of such beliefs and practices being Buddhist or not in its nature, modality and ambition. In many ways, this neatly fits into what Juergensmeyer had labeled as ‘e-mail ethnicity’.

What is the need for a well-organized outfit of this nature even after four years after the war? Why that is, BBS is on an anti-Muslim campaign? Is BBS only a standalone organization or it in fact, a symptom of a wider political undercurrent that developing in Lanka in the postwar context? Why does the Sinhala Saṅgha often find an ‘enemy’ they should defeat? This is a short reflection of the political sociology of Saṅgha resistance and their impact in contemporary Lanka. Towards the mixed and wider audience of GV, I keep this essay non-theoretical and leave open for further discourse.

Postwar Buddhist Politics

It is nearly four years ago that the modern state of Lanka recentralized her strong ethno-religious i.e. Sinhala-Buddhist structure. Its total defeat of the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) – until then considered one of world’s most effective textbook terror political group- reaffirmed the political will of the Sinhala elites and their voters. For them, Lanka is and will remain a Sinhala-Buddhist state no matter the democratic/human cost or her ground demographic/historical reality as a multicultural island that survives on a dependent economy. There is no doubt that the Rajapaksa rule, unlike its predecessors steadfastly held the Sinhala determination to defeat the LTTE irrespective of some internal and occasional (often-marginal) international pressures.  Retrospectively, mobilizing such ‘just-war’ to safeguard the territorial integrity of the dhammadeepa and the sovereignty of the Sinhalas was made easy and possible by the Saṅgha.  The  uncompromised stand, activism and the rhetoric  of a minority of radicalized Sinhala (largely southern) Saṅgha as much as the passive support of majority of the Sangha fraternity across the island across the all major nikayas helped win the war in 2009. State of Lanka is yet to give the due honour of her unforgiving victory to the two most contributing entities: first, the just war chapters led by activists Sangha such as Athuraliyē Rathana, Bengamuwe Nālaka, Elle Gunawangse  and thousands other Saṅgha who demanded a military solution. Second: China- Lanka’s regional super power guardian. Recent World Bank report says that China has already invested/loaned up to 40 billion US $ to Lanka. While the accountability of such amount of funds has never been open in Lanka, at least China may be enjoying its aims in Lanka. However, it appears that the rulers have only fulfilled one expectation of the warrior-Saṅgha in defeating the LTTE. The wider ambition of (re)establishing an ethno-religious Sinhala-Buddhist state is pending or slower than their original hopes. It is this backdrop, within which a force of the ‘Buddhist Power’ (BBS) comes into demonstration.

Trans-localizing Buddhist politics

The intrinsically interwoven dialectical relationship between the Theravādin Saṅgha and their states is a well-researched and confirmed fact in power politics of South(east) Asia. Such dynamic is historicized by the deeply influencing Vaṃsa literature in Lanka. I have elsewhere added to such research to contextualize the modern Sangha-State nexus in Lanka.[1] The epiphenomenology of the post-LTTE Sinhala Saṅgha resistance and its political mobilization have inherited two historical factors. First, the political heritage of Saṅgha genealogy: from venerable Mahānāma of Mahāvihara, the first author of the Mahāvaṃsa to venerable Gaṅgoḍawila Sōma- the modern crusader of a semi-urban charismatic Buddhist evangelism- there remains a self-defined cosmological responsibility and an uncontested authority bestowed with Sangha to (re)define the Sinhala state. Late professor venerable Walpola Rāhula has articulated such continued political dynamic in his Bhikshuwakage Urumaya (භික්ෂුවගේ උරුමය) which is in its ninth edition and is considered the manifesto for modern Sangha politics. Second: the Sinhala Saṅgha have historically adopted, imported and exported an ethno-religious template of interpretation to understand and respond to the changes in their society. They have borrowed and localized concepts and modalities from other Theravādin contemporaries. When challenging the deeply colonized state in the 1800s they worked with the Burmese and Thai Saṅgha. An independent self-rule thesis was followed from their Bengali counterparts. Anagārika Dharmapāla while not a Saṅgha, deeply influenced to project a ‘protestant Buddhism’ creating the concept of ‘Sinhala-Bauddaya’. Dharmapāla with the help and advice of American war veteran Colonel Olcott borrowed his agitation and its models from the protestant Christian missionaries. Even the media based Buddhist evangelism done by venerable Sōma (and continued by others like the venerable Inamaluwe Śrī Suṃaṅgala of Rangiri vihara of Dambulla) is in the footprint of British/American religious preachers who exploit the public space via the modern media and worldwide internet. Ann Blackburn in her Locating Buddhism (2010) has investigated such history.  This trans-localizing process and its density depend on internalizing and cross -problematizing of the socio-political transformation around them. Such internalizing produces a set of ontological insecurities further deepened by forces such as the market based liberal democracy, its globalization of a western value schema, growth of newer religions (especially Pentecostal Christianity) or a set of new trader class like the Muslims in Lanka.  I have argued that the concepts such as minority rights and federalism have fallen victims of such Saṅgha internationalization that fuelled not only the just war thesis but also rejected the total discourse of federalism or power sharing and reserved the state to a recentralization. Such Saṅgha worldview has generated varied types of violent and non-violent responses. BBS appears to be a classic development in this context.

Building a Buddhatvā
Scholars agree that nation state formation in South Asia had taken on opposite direction to its development in Europe. In South Asia, the struggles for independent from long periods of colonization did not come with the aim to build an overarching state led by a civic society under one ethno-religious cultural identity. The multi-nation, multi-lingual, multi-religious and multi-cultural nature of the South Asian societies prevented such uniformity and civic consciousness in their society. The post-colonial struggles for democracy in these states in South Asia bears witness to the fact that independent was perceived as an opportunity for a particular ethnic group than to the entire state. In Lanka, The Sinhalas considered independence to be their chance of majority rule. This is proved by the subsequent illdemocratic acts such the disfranchising of the Indian Tamil, language rule, supremacy of Buddhism and university entrance discriminations etc. On the other hand, the Tamils seemed to have dreamed of a largely autonomous, confederated or even an independent region for them after the colonial rule. Such unfulfilled diagonally opposing political ambitions and demands eventually led to the 30 years of civil war.

The Sinhala Saṅgha, in spiritual terms have renounced this world and are helping the others to find nirvāna. However, they have had a historical socio-political mandate too. That is building and maintaining a state in which the ethno-religious ideology of Sinhala Buddhism is at the center of political and social definition. Their textualized aim in the various Vaṃsa literature is political not religious, at least very different to what the Theravada teachings of the Pāli texts. This political Buddhism is designed and often projected against an identified ‘other’. For the Sinhala Saṅgha, Mahāyāna Buddhism, Hinduism, Catholicism, Christian missionaries, Islam, and the peoples of those faiths have often provided such otherness. Some have argued that the Sinhala Saṅgha agitation against the other and the political project of building a Buddhist state has taken the same path as its Hindu nationalist mobilization- the Hindutva. While there is a large body of literature on Hindutva, in Lanka the Saṅgha resistance politics is still under studied.  My own research had revealed the fact that many scholars (Gananatha Obeseykere, H. L. Seneviratne, S. J. Tambiah and many western academics) have investigated the Sinhala Saṅgha politics from an anthropological perspective than of political science lenses.

Modern political science is limited in explaining some of the transitional transformations happening in ethno-religious politics in societies like Lanka. The contemporary Western scholarship that claims a ‘return of religion’ (Appleby 2000, Juergensmeyer 2003) is not able to explain our conditions as religion never left our politics or us. So it is not a return but a reassert and a reminder how deeply religious our politics is. Limited scholarship in understanding religious politics of Lanka is also using popular western discourses such as (post)modernism (Abeysekara 2002, 2008). Are the resistance waves of Sangha politics in Lanka showing signs of a ‘Buddhist Zionism’? That is, beside the eschatological belief that the Sinhalas are a chosen race for the redemptive role of Buddhism, and Lanka is a Buddha’s land, a neo-militancy is attached to the urgent and if necessary a violent need to protect and defend the Buddhist  land. Historical evidence such as the Tamil/Hindu/Indian invasions as well the modern LTTE terror campaign neatly fitted into the idiosyncratically selected portions of Mahāvaṃsa and other such epics.  Such Buddhist Zionist interpretation naturally will search for every possible sign of the Mahavamsic prophecies to identify the ‘enemy’ of the dhamma and Sinhalas as its custodians. The Sinhala Saṅgha and their ultra-nationalist lay politics have  readily provided a long list of such ‘enemies’ from the colonial British to UN funded INGOs and to the Chief Justice of the supreme court in the recent days. Jonathan Fox, a world authority on ethno-religious violence has doubted that democracy cannot take root where the religious beliefs justify political violence at societal level. I suspect 1948 produced two such ‘Zionist’ states: one Israel- built on the Judeo-Christian faith and the other Sri Lanka- very surprisingly based on some interpretation of Buddhism. Defending the purity of their land in both these states is directly amount to defending their faiths. Israel expands into a Biblical boundary searching for the Promised Land, while Lanka holds the boundaries of the dhammadeepa cleansed and given by Buddha ,  its rule even temporarily with her own citizens who are the other. These societies and their religio-politics are constructed on a cosmion basis: That perceives their country as the physical metaphor of the eternal resting place and their contemporary political structure as representing the divine order. It is in this context they could see their political leaders as divinely appointed (or relatives of Buddha) and their army as sons of eternity engaged in a divine war of Armageddon. Venerable Elle Gunawangse’s 50 odd war-songs written, produced and distributed amongst the soldiers during the peak stage of the war textualized this.

It is in this context that an outfit like BBS whose raison d’eˆtre is against to the Muslim expansionism under a corrupt and unfair trade/economic system. It is statically true that the Muslims in Lanka have grown, numerically, economically and to a great extend politically. However, why should such growth be an actual or perceived threat to Sinhala Buddhism? What (in)actions of the wider Muslim community are generating such ontological fears in Sinhala mind especially as the Sangha interpreted them? One thing positive about BBS is that the organization is constantly calling for a reform within the entire Śāsana of the Sinhala Buddhism beginning from an accountability and wealth sharing of the Dalala maligawa and the Atamasthana. This is a historical call and if done a turning point in modern Sinhala Buddhism. Can the Muslims, Christians and the Hindus understand this Buddhist Zionism and deal with it without contributing to the natural desire for reactionary political violence? What is the role of the government and the cross ethnic civil society in fostering such urgent understanding? Such questions are at the fundamental level to avoid the growing mistrust, antagonism and rivalry that is amplified by BBS.  Southeast Asian Theravāda states such as Burma, Thailand and Laos had already developed some full-blown Buddhist-Muslim conflicts that are threating those states. Can Sinhala Buddhism afford to repeat a Buddhist-Muslim riot as happened a century ago in 1915?  Can the Saṅgha in Lanka not find a way to address and answer their fears and concerns in a more dialogical manner? What can the Muslim religio-political elites and their trading communities (not)do towards this?

Dr. Suren Raghavan is a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Buddhist Studies of University of Oxford and teaches politics at University of Kent-Canterbury.   [email protected]

Bibliography

Appleby, R. Scott, The Ambivalence of the Sacred: Religion, Violence, and Reconciliation, Rowman and Littlefield, Maryland, 2000

Abeysekara, Ananda, Colors of the Robe: Religion, Identity and Difference (Studies in Comparative Religion), University of South California Press, California, 2002

_______________, The Politics of Postsecular Religion: Mourning Secular Futures, Columbia University Press, 2008

Jonathan, Fox, Do democracies have a separation of Religion and State? Canadian Journal of Political Science / Volume 40 / Issue          01 / March 2007, pp 1-25

Juergensmeyer, Mark, Terror in the Mind of God: The Global Rise of Religious Violence, Uuniversity of California Press; Third edition, 2003


[1] See: Raghavan, Suren, ‘Politics of Venerable Walpola Rahulā’, Oxford Journal of Buddhist Studies, and Raghavan, Suren (Re)Designing  Democracy with Sinhala Buddhism , Routledge London, 2013, (forthcoming)

  • Jayalath

    The best thing I ever admire in the communist during the 1917 after establish a communist state in Russia and else where the complete ban of religions . I feel sorry that it didn’t spread into other countries .it could have done full level every where else to deter this type of religious feuds. This is the worst out come of a society or country which possibly can destroy almost every thing we have .

    Infact , it is quite important to find out what has happened to the Buddhist theory of kindness.whole Buddhism is based on the kindness , so how come a such principles turn into vicious behaviour . It is true that in some Buddhist countries the fierce fightings has been taken place between Muslim and Buddhists , especially Buddhists are chasing out the Muslims in their territories . This incidents reminds me whether history turn back. We can see from the history how things happened in the madeaval time , nevertheless , the life has to move forward not back .

    We are at the dawn of in 21st century , this century is belonged to people who wants to think in rationally and scientifically, therefore I wish if any one want to perish with religious intolerance they could , as it can help to this earth for certain length .

    Bye bye . Good luck for the superstition .

    • M Nilame

      In Sri Lanka Buddhism is getting highly politicized after the emergence of Jathika Hela Urumaya – JHU, the so called intellectuals playing the communal card to take political advantage with gullible public, these days the most salable commoditty is Racism. Those who propagate communalism are the uncrowned champions among the Sinhala general public, without realizing the long term negative effect for the country. They forcing the invasion of the country by their gullible short term political advantage. Nowhere in the world racism and communalism lasted long, they will get annihilated by the same people who supported them. Their days are numbered.

      • truthandpeace

        Well said M Nilame, hats off for short and simple answer

        Hope this helps here

        cause and the cure for racism

        http://causeandthecureforracism.blogspot.com/

      • Jayalath

        To
        M, nilame

        My friend why the Muslim congress was there ? This is the first time a political party was formed in the name of religion and race , which is unacceptable .now People worry about JHL , this is the result of what you sowed . Do you expect wheat when you plant rice ?

        • Riza

          Its not correct to look at”sri Lanka muslim congress” as based on religion; if so it has to be “Sri Lanka Islamic congress”. Muslims in sri lanka is considered as separate ethnicity due to the unique culture and bilinguality. Even before SLMC parties such as All Ceylon Tamil Congress were in existence which is ethnic based. Please read this to find out why the need for SLMC was arose (from a neutral source)

          http://www.irinnews.org/Report/97297/Briefing-Sri-Lanka-s-Muslim-IDPs-25-years-on

          However today I don’t think its original purpose of being a representative in parliament to voice against injustice towards Muslim community has been fulfilled. Earlier to it’s formation, Muslims MPs were there in other parties and not able to voice for Muslims much due to their loyalty towards the party. Now also the situation is same as just like all the politicians, power and greedy has taken upper hand among Muslim politicians and they are silent towards atrocities against Muslims and very loyal to the ruling party. If one stand for the truth another waiting to pull down him and grab his position. Really shameful!

          • Jayalath

            To
            Riza .
            I understand your point , what I tell you is before the muslim congress and Tamil parties there weren’t any political party to represent any race or religion . If you remember I will name some of them .
            1 united national party 2 srilanka freedom party , Mahajana peramuna , communist party, samasamaja paksaya , Jonathan vimukthi peramuna ,
            These parties never based on particular race or religion , instead they were solely opened to every citizen of country . This is the beauty , but now , we have segregated to particular race and religion , don’t we .
            That is the reason I said why now JHL is there . We don’t need a party to highlight on particular community as Sri Lanka is a country for all of us , we are Sri lankan weather we are Sinhalese or not , therefore I do not agree when some one tries to raise that grievances and problems are having only for us .

            We all have problems , didn’t Sri lankan gov kill 100 thousand youths during the 89,90 ? They did , they never looked away because of they are Sinhalese , did they ? This is the problem , we all have problems , so ,what we got to do is to united and fight together sake all of us , unless , these individual attacks and mayhems would not be successful .so. It is important us to understand where we should start and whom are our enemies ! We have a battle to fight , before we think of fighting we should assure the meaning of fight . It should be for the mass of people , not on base of individual race or religions benifits or success .

            We have enough evidences in the past to prove the failure of individual battle .as I have told above , the politicians have ruined us , they should share the most of our problems .
            The LTTE wasn’t just an outbreak , there were problems , what you have mentioned is another problem , these all are having close interconnections , and all are failures of better governance of idiotic politicians .

            So , how far we can go like this , it is like a volcano , when it erupts , it takes tens of thousands lives and calm down for a while and erupts again , we need to sort it out my friend , before the next one is due . You decide, take it to people , and discuss with them , exchange the views ,discuss with every one and ask them where we went wrong , with all races and religions , question from religious leaders and parents , ask them why this mess, where is our bright future you muttered, why the Bodu Bala Sena sneering at us ? Ask , ask !

          • Riza

            Jayalath
            You start was right but the end was wrong, other parties talked about equal rights as citizen and BBS is talking about Sinhala Buddhist supremacy. Hope you know the difference.

          • Thinktank

            @Jayalath
            Please don’t have to define matters to cater Sinhalese’s requirement alone. You are talking about 100 youth killed by the government and haven’t you forgotten those youth killed many thousand by getting the law in their hands. But those individuals realized their mistake and changed themselves, at the moment they are the one voicing against corruption. Now the law is taken by the monks and racist. Matters no need to be hidden and call BBS is not a threat to peace or their matters are exaggerated. Many incidents are well documented with videos and pictures. I do agree parties without religious or ethnic identity is the best option but in absence of fulfilling in getting the rights no wrong in forming a party in any ethnic name to highlight their problems that community face, even never mind JHU and BBS represent Buddhist and show any shortcomings. Problem is trying to get upper hand at the expenses of others rights (by taking their rights away) and carrying out false propaganda to increase their votes. Perhaps you should know even in a secular system religion is followed by people even though it plays minor role in politics, this doesn’t mean that those religion are banned but given freedom. If you are in Europe or if you visit North America you will still find churches. Also you should understand the fact that political systems are born in different ways in different countries which suits the local public’s culture and belief. Take south Indian democracy, it is successful due to sharing power and implementing personnel law (even though common law applicable for criminal and some civil matters), if you try to implement German democracy in india, it will certainly fail. First we should understand people’s requirement, then must safeguard everyone’s right. You will find in sri lanka people with different race, religion and castes. Main problem in sri lanka is less qualified people are in power. Even advisers are self-centered selfish people siding their own race. So we better address the real problem and find a solution.

            Now let me tell you where JHU and BBC cross their limits

            1.They think Buddhism is the only religion should prevail and grow in sri lanka. Others don’t have the right to preach and practice their religion. Minorities in sri lanka knows how difficult to build a church, mosque or a kovil. Let BBC protect their temple, its reasonable request but for that matter no need to demolish others worship places declaring acres and acres as sacred area. Also they have no right to stop building other new worship places.

            2.They think they have the sole right for the country; forgotten that except indigenous people, rest of the people and their religion are migrants to the island. They forgot Tamils, Muslims and Christians also citizen of this country and born here just like them. One Buddhist monk said in an incident to Muslims to go to Saudi. Why can’t he go to Bangladesh where vijaya came from or to india where Buddhism came from? The same problem we have on going back to Arabia. How many people know their lineage more than 100 years connecting to kuwaini? Same problem other ethnic people face in sri lanka.

            3.They applied Buddhism partially and expecting everyone need to follow it, for example for protecting bull but not chicken ,pig and fish, never mind opening bars in the so called sacred places which they themselves defined but no other religious places are allowed

            4.They bring up unnecessary problem such as halal. They simply don’t have the sense to understand it is a certificate to increase the business just like any other certificate, don’t know basic commerce and economics

            5.They talk about dressing and protecting their culture by pointing at what other religious men and women wear, but never mind western culture among their own men and women.

            6.They believe its other people fault that Sinhalese are poor, while keeping millions of assets under their temple custody

            8.they openly ask other businesses to close and should not admitted to higher education

            9.They take the law in hand and police is just dogs for them. They never respect country’s law and order

            i can keep on writing…….

            Don’t you think final outcome of such activity one of two, Muslims will remain silent which may be not for long or Muslims will fight for power sharing as Tamils did and will be dragged by extremism that taken up in most parts of the world as a result of same kind of problems, because this is the country every sri Lankan were born and brought up they have no choice other than fight for their rights. You are rightly identified even LTTE was not an overnight problem and don’t forget that the same organization that funding BBS, LTTE is waiting to fund Muslims towards extremism. Then only they can fulfill their agenda. Many still doesn’t know initial bombing in Iraq and Pakistan to kindle the shia sunni problem was done by whom. As is with 9/ll, executed by some fanatics who wanted to revenge US but who plotted it by using it to their favor and fooled those fanatics. One such is enough; the rest will be taken up by both Buddhist and Muslims fanatics in sri lanka. By the time you ask others to think, don’t forget to think these as well. Racism is not unique to sri lanka and we must learn from rest of the world. After creating the problem no point in naming them terrorist. Identifying the problem is half of the solution.

          • Jayalath

            To Riza
            No , I never admire or advocate this Bala and that Bala Sena , I have stated that in first comment right on the top , you better read it first , what I said was these JHL and this Bala Sena are out come of Muslim congress . Singhala people can question what is wrong of having a Bala Sena to hear singhala people , because there are TNA to Tamil And Other Muslim congress to muslims , so it is a fair base .
            But , I refused altogether which doesn’t represent all Sri lankans . My stand is no religion no race and respect to rational people any where in the world .

            Honestly I believe this is not a topic or some thing worth to spend time ,why we speak about this is because we still living in stone age , as I told this before , this is our LEGACY.

            The world is now of thinking when they can go and live in MARs or Where is the nearest planet that we can live on . And how can human life extend for another 100 tears or what energy can be used in future as environmental friendly
            This is what we must speak about my friend .

    • http://www.sailanmuslim.com AGA Barrie

      Here are my views on the article written by Dr. Suren .It is a well researched article but need to read it with these points in mind:

      First of all the sites promoting the ‘Hatred’ are not Buddhist as claimed by the writer it is definitely written under Buddhist name but sponsored by International trouble makers. We have in Sri Lanka unwanted Foreign organizations funding and creating divisions and upsetting the balance in many ways as possible and they are not missing a single stone unturned to create trouble. Fortunately, most of the decision makers, are aware and on the look out for such elements. Once again please do not fall into the trap. We need peace and harmony to prevail.
      The need to create hatred between Muslims and Buddhists is very obvious because the country is in the path of recovery, promoting peace and harmony. This is the most precious need of the day hence the terrorist group backed by Foreign forces which failed miserably are doing everything possible to create chaos once again and this time utilizing world trend of Islamaphobia. This was well explained by the Ven Thero at the last Interfaith dialogue and urged both Muslims and Buddhists were not to get provoked and continue to live in harmony. This is our message too to all peace loving human beings both in Canada and the rest of the world including our ever wonderful Sr Lankans.
      BBS, even though it seems to be anti Islamic but it will fail miserably and it will backfire against their wishes as usual. More and more people wants to know about Islam and Muslims which only leads to more conversion through conviction. We all know what happen after 9/11 in the States and now those who engineered the attack on Twin Towers wondering how to stop the wild spread of Islam. It is always repeated in the history the enemies of Islam who help to spread Islam as Allah says in the Quran ‘People can plot but Allah is the best of plotters’
      Dr Suren claim that Muslims will be threat to Buddhism in Sri lanka but it was never and will never too in the future. As mentioned earlier it will be through false propaganda carried out by those who wants to create problems. The international trend is that due to anti Islamaphobia the truth about Islam is being understood and most the imminent and intelligent people are being guided and convert to Islam. None can stop this as this again is the prediction in the Quran that the masses will enter into the fold of Islam in large number.
      Sri lanka was never founded on Buddhist Zionism as claimed by the Prof in the year 1948 on the contrary it was mistake of a selfish Individual who initiated it, in the mid fifties, to gain power. I am sure everyone who loves Sri lanka will agree this move took us back twenty five years or more and still struggling to recover.
      It is obvious that Sri Lanka is under microscope by the International Hooligans( I am sorry to use this word) under the name of Human Rights to create Chaos once again. This is obviously the remnants of terrorist group aided and abetted by Foreign elements present in Sri Lanka in various forms, to create problems in the peace loving Sri Lanka.
      Please find my article written on the status for publication:

      PAROXYSM ON PEACE AND HARMONY. By AGA Barrie P.Eng. Ontario, Canada.
      Living in peace and harmony was the norm in Sri Lanka and goes back to ancient days, until the foreign influence cast its shadow on the beautiful island once known as the pearl of the Indian Ocean. It was a myth that even the first human being Adam (Peace be upon him) had stepped into the serene part of the globe. So why is there a paroxysm on peace and harmony in this beautiful motherland of ours?
      People of Sri Lanka today and Ceylon were considered as a monument and exemplary for tolerance and understanding of all religions Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism and Islam. Hinduism was the major religion practiced on the island prior to introduction of Buddhism in the third century, while Islam and Christianity came in later; members of all communities stood hand in hand to obtain freedom from Foreign Occupancy in the year 1948.
      With the introduction of Buddhism as state religion and Sinhala as the national language in the mid fifties, the seed of hatred began to grow in the hearts of the Tamil People and was the root cause of the ethnic conflict, resulting migration of minorities and a three decade war in Sri Lanka. Unfortunately the resistance toward the introduction of language changed into a religious war, aided and abetted by some foreign countries calling for separatism and utilizing terrorist tactics. Unique and bold steps taken by the present Government cleared the country of the menace but roots of the original agenda still remains resulting in today’s paroxysm on peace and harmony.
      Following the world trend of Islamaphobia; parties of who wish to create chaos in Sri Lanka have embarked on a mission that is very obvious: To set Muslims against Buddhists. Fortunately, both peace loving communities have identified the threat and are taking all precautions to avoid being provoked.
      Some of the minor day to day conflicts being escalated into major issues but were nipped in the bud by those in authority. This approach is not welcomed by those who intend on creating problems in the country. These groups with hidden agendas have failed miserably to achieve what they wanted in Sri Lanka. They have now, shamelessly, stooped to social and digital media to inject venom into the emotions of the people. They are utilizing the internet and social media to promote hatred and spread stories based on unfounded truth.
      One of the major steps being taken is creating a dialogue and this was done through the Forum for National Amity and Understanding convened by Islamic Secretariat and attended by Ven.Kamburupitiya Vajira Mahanayake Thero. He who documented the roles played by Buddhism and Islam, how both communities have lived in harmony, how some mischief makers wants to spark hatred and create another conflict in the country. He recalled the unfortunate days of the war on terrorism and urged everyone to be cautious and work toward peace and harmony.
      While recognizing the online threat, both Co-Chairmen Mahanayake Thero and Hon. Minister M.H.Mohamed issued the following press release and urged those involved to give it a wide publicity:
      “Sri Lankans are perturbed and distressed at the growing hate campaign being promoted by some individuals through their websites. This is being done to provoke the Muslims with a hidden agenda of creating chaos in the country, especially after having just emerged from three decades of a war on terrorism. Therefore we urge both communities Buddhists and Muslims to not be misled and fall into their trap and urge the entire Sri Lankan population to continue to live in harmony. We further, humbly request those in authority to ban such websites immediately and to curb such sites being permitted to operate in our peaceful country, as we need peace and harmony to prevail.”

      ————————
      Regards
      AGA Barrie, P. Eng.

      • Thinktank

        Dear Mr.Barrie

        You are right in highlighting some facts, but matters need to be differentiated to identify each forces involved and their vested motives. We can’t blame each and every act for foreign forces as the seeding the problem is done by Buddhist themselves and perhaps watering is done by foreign forces. It may be true that minority portion of Buddhist doing these subversive activities, also it should be noted that another minority Buddhist are the one talking against these invest motives, still majority Buddhist are silent or waiting to drag by one of these side which will determine the future of this country.

        BBS is an organization not just carrying out its activities online, they are not people hiding and doing these activities. It’s a fact that all of them are renowned Buddhists and monks. It has very close ties to JHU which is playing a role in government. Police silence on implementing law and order while these subversive activities taken place are evident that government also has its share. no matter what action is being taken if government has no interest or government itself part of these activity, will any effort taken by peace loving Muslim and Buddhist be fruitful? Main reason behind these hate campaign are nothing but jealousy which also developed without any second thought. They believe Muslim population has increased significantly and Muslims are economically well off than any other community. My question is if Muslims are economically well off why people like Rizana nafeek has to leave the country as housemaid and how many more Muslims had taken up the same kind of jobs. Mean time what Muslims have to do in any increase and decrease in Sinhala population or economical down turn? sinhalese have to bring up reasonable solution for themselves without fingering others. So section of Buddhist need to take responsibility towards creating this chaos.

        When it comes to watering the problem, true there are many stakeholders

        1. LTTE supporters who lost in achieving their aims and want to create problems among other community

        2. Arm dealers such as Israel who lost income after end of war between government and LTTE

        3. US and allies who tried to get Sri Lankan forces to steal oil and minerals under the pretext of fighting terrorism, as they fail to do accomplish they can create situation to prove their position ( just like they did 9/11).

        http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2011/10/08/robert-blake%E2%80%99s-subtle-move-open-sri-lanka-al-qaedalashkar-e-taiba-attacks

        4. Religious sect that try to convert people with financial aids to poor. They had already faced many problems and they also try to divert the problem towards Muslims so that they can take refuge behind some other issue.

        5. Business men who cannot compete ethically and want to increase their market share by promoting racism

        6. Politician who tries to get their vote bank filled with the help of racism.

        Whoever watering the problem the people seeding blindly are the one responsible directly for the chaos. All we can see that some Buddhists are the one acting openly in many places in sri lanka and all the fan in a facebook page that promote racism are Sinhala Buddhist (may be few non Buddhist pretending as Buddhist, these people can be identified with less friends and other activities). Tthese facts speaks loudly for themselves.

        • dingiri

          Interesting and even funny how you voice alarm at Buddhist extremists and justify and deny that Islamic extremism exists. That 9/11 was perpetrated by the US itself. Why? Why would they want to destroy their own assets and people to give them an excuse to invade Afghanistan and later Iraq? They already had the reasons.. The bombing of the US embasies in Kenya and Tanzania by Al Qaida and also the suicide bombing of USS Cole. So why did they need another excuse? Should they bomb themselves as well?

          To then impute that the Sinhala racist websites are set up with the “west”, to imagine that westerners are converting to Islam in droves. To deny the existance of Islamic extremism just shows the extent you have been brainwashed by your delusional mullahs.

          The problems in Sri Lanka and the rest of the world are a lot simpler and not as convoluted as those who spread these conspiracy theories would lead you to believe. The solutions are also simple and within our ability to achieve by ourselves. So lets stop blaming the usual scapegoats and start resloving these issues by ourselves.

          • ThinkTank

            @dingiri

            I didn’t justify any extremism in any form; again I didn’t blame the west blindly as well. We need to look at the whole picture and not just one point. First of all in present context one country can go with an invasion only if it faces a nation security threat. All the other bombings taken place offshore were considered as hate attack over biased support to Israel by US, this is what was rooted in the mind of American. Bush administration had the view that without public support wider strategy in middle, i.e invading for oil and protecting Israel by weakening Arab world cannot be implemented. There are enough evidences even some Sinhalese supported LTTE for financial gains and got caught in the hands of police. If so bush is not different from them. A wider research on the issue may give you more information. I have replied on this regards below as well

      • Jayalath

        It seems to be you have exaggerated the most with understanding or not,and I only feel what you have said is in a nice story ,not in a real life .
        However , you have fabricated 9/11 attack .it is unforgivable and pathetic effort to justify the barbaric attack on innocent people . And next one is to your best understanding the intellectuals and others who convert to Islam by large numbers , it can be true , that is why we have this much of tension and problems in the society . Also it seems to people like you the quantity is better than quality .

        I’m irreligious and refuse all the ways to delution and superstition .

        • ThinkTank

          Dear jayalath

          Even I have mentioned about 9/11. NO ONE hear pointing 9/11 is not a barbaric act, it is indeed. killing innocents cannot acceptable no matter it is in US, middle east or even SL. myself and Mr.Barrie wanted to point out that 9/11 is an inside job and both CIA and Mosaad has its share to implement their wider strategy by fooling the general American. This is not something new and many American, especially intellectuals questioning this with many supporting evidences.

          I recommend you to read this book

          https://store.globalresearch.ca/store/americas-war-on-terrorism/

          if not try to give a search on google with the word “9/11 exposed” or “mossad involvement in 9/11” , you will get many article pointing towards them such as

          http://911truth.tripod.com/exposed.html

          http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

          • Jayalath

            To think tank

            Hi dear .
            Thanks for the informations . yes , I know as you have pointed out there are lots lots rumourse related to this attack , I was very anti American , because of their role in the world , when you in an anti position you become always anti , but last few years I started to think about this bit differently ,now I’m quite neutral and mostly optimistic , I hope it is the best way to think about any thing .
            However , when I first heard about 9/11 , I thought the same as you , but I lately wanted to know better than heard about it before , And I collected the all data of Alquida and their nature ,for example , London attack , Bali bomb , Taj mahal hotel attack , after regarding over many attacks carried out by Alquida that I went to a deep thought about all , and came for a conclusion .
            When I regard the nature of those attacks ,I decided their chances of twin tower attack by Alquida .

            However, we don’t know whether it was a creation or not , but my friend if you think for a moment of Alquida behaviour It might not be that hard to imagine how vicious they can be .
            And do not forget , there can be people who predict in different ways . I remember , there were lot of intellectuals in the USA last few years ago who completely refused or disagree for the warning of global warming when scientists disclosed , and recently , probably after Storm Sandy hit last month in newyorkcity , that all have started to admit the affect of global warming .
            So , as a nature of us we only some time agree when it perceives just front of our feet , therefore I’m not surprise of your thoughts .

          • ThinkTank

            @Jayalath

            Generalizing is human tendency. This is the place divide and rule policy is well applied. I don’t say nonexistence of al-qaida. Its operation is there. In many occasion it has been utilized by western forces to fulfill their own objective and they even collaborate the operation as supporting ( of course in different cover). Even oklahama bombing first thought that by these groups but thanks to proper investigation facts came out. Each case is different and you need to find the facts separately. We never use what if questions, if you use them for 9/11 and surrounding incidents facts will come out. Its not about anti American, in a sense they also victims of fooling administration. On or the other days facts will come to surface. Many Americans are stated thinking now.

            this is the place we need to be careful too. let them be buddist or muslims.

  • Concern

    One of the rasist attempt by this bodu balu sena is about halal certification. Point is no company is force to get a halal certificate. If those companies want to increase their market share by considering muslim population they can go for certification. This is normal business technique and by this many companies in sri lanka increased its sales locally (among local Muslims and foreign Muslim tourist) and able to export to Muslim countries. Making this as an issue some inferior creations showing their hatefulness blindly. What is the problem these racist have if a company gets the certificate willingly to increase its market share and profit? Unfortunately some uneducated mobs barks on the issue and dancing to someone else tune. They simply show their level of education. If you want to export to EU need to get an EU certification and which idiot will oppose it, same is true for halal certification; Selling among muslims.
    I wish I can teach these mobs some basic cost accounting and show how cost and profit works. Lets say, a milk product company has a market share of 40% which is 400000 units sale, by getting a halal certificate if it can increase the share to 50% that is 500000 units what is the outcome? Let’s say cost without halal certificate is Rs 100 for a unit. Cost of halal certificate is Rs 100000, if so cost per unit is increased by 0.2 Rs (100000/500000). Let’s say sales price is Rs 102,
    profit without halal certificate Rs 800000 (400000*2)
    profit with halal certificate Rs 900000 (500000*1.8 ) Even with the halal certificate only company had absorbed the cost and not transferred to customers and still profiting.
    Mean time If a company wants it can reduce the sales price from 102 to 101.6 to keep its profit to Rs 800000 by taking halal certificate and retain a higher market share. In this case even others benefit by Rs 0.4 for a unit. Some uneducated mobs can’t think beyond certain point. Not all the companies recruits nut heads. They know how to make their cost calculation and go for what is good for the company and the people.
    P.S as far as I know maximum payment for the certificate is 25000 provided that company is having more than 100 products. For the sake of calculation had taken 100000 as the propaganda is in laks and still company can profit. Point is companies are getting this certificate after proper calculation and only uneducated may think that such certification will increase the cost and transferred to them. If its true, why companies going behind iso, eu or halal certification even though it’s a choice? No company will feed Muslims at a loss. When some religious leaders are uneducated fools all they can do is fuel the differences.

    • Happy Heathen

      Not withstanding the ostensibly chauvinist attitude of Bodu Bala Sena, Halal process is one of the most inhumane way of slaughtering animals for meat which has been banned in civilised countries. Kosher is just as abhorrent.

      Hence the need to ban ALL animal slaughter for religious purposes.

      As for Bodu Bala Sena, it is another manifestation of rise of religious right as a knee jerk reaction against the perceived homogenizing effect of globalization.

      One of the simplest but effective ways to deal with it is through education. (but you need a secular constitution for that in order to get rid of religious education in public schools)

      Another way is through economic empowerment of masses. So people start worshipping money and materialism instead of Jeebus!

      • Concern

        I hope under the animal chicken and fish also included.

        Halal doent means only animal slaughtering and if you are with such perception need to be informed yourself more before commenting on the subject matter.

        Also we are not interested in getting advice on whether religious belief is right or wrong, the subject matter is how to co-exist with different beliefs (including your materialism), so any kind of practical solution would be much welcome than mere time wasting

        • Happy Heathen

          Concern
          01/18/2013 • 8:31 pm

          What a specious argument……….

          In order to talk about co-existence, you first have to establish the need for religion in the modern world and the need to perpetuate such barbaric acts.

          There is absolutely no need for religion as a whole and such barbaric practices PERIOD. That’s why civilized societies have banned such practices. They didn’t find ways to co-exist, they banned them outright!!

          Are you keeping slaves?

          Are you going to kill for apostasy?

          What about contraception and abortion?

          Are you homophobic?

          When you answer these question you’ll realise who is incompatible with a civilised society…….

          • concern

            I also need to say what a specious argument……….

            Same civilized society that that you praise is the one lost ethical sense and invading lands for oil and mineral by killing women and children, financing seditious activities to divide and rule and taken the steps to make world gays and lesbians. So we are not interested in your money worshipping religion.

            In every word you type all I can see is your partial understanding just like halal is slaughtering animals. I had seen your post even earlier and you didn’t take any step forward to understand other side of the story other than blindly repeating rabbits are best runners with three legs.

            I had seen reply to all your partial understanding had given in the earlier discussion which had taken place here. No point in repeating them. You are free to live in your ignorance.

            http://groundviews.org/2012/10/31/why-religious-intolerance-makes-me-mad/

    • dingiri

      On the Halal issue alone, the BBS has a point. As a cost accountant you will realise that the purpoted Rs.175,000 Halal certification cost is passed on to all the counsumers of the Halal product. 90% of whom are non-Moslem. It is this that the BBS object to. That non-moslems are being “taxed” indirectly by the Halal board. And those taxes are then used exclusively for Islamic causes. The BBS claims there are 4000 products in the Halal registry and each certification costs Rs. 175,000. That is Rs. 700 million to fund Islamic causes from the largely non Moslem population.

      The only way around it is for manufacturers to have separate product lines with Halal and Non-Halal labeling. The Halal product for the Moslems and non-Halal for non-Moslems.

      Govt. can legislate that if a manufacturer produces a Halal product, he must also produce a non-Halal prodcut. Even if Non-Halal is only on the label. The Halal product naturally should include the cost of the certification while the non-Halal product does not. Is that not a fairer way of costing apportioning if non-Moslems have no interest in funding the Halal Board and its good causes?

      • Concern

        @ dingiri
        I am sure you don’t have much knowledge about business studies. First of all you dint read my comment above properly, second you didn’t get proper information on pricing. Infact false propaganda of BBC was brought to light and official media reports were released. Mean time by taking the halal certificate company does not have to increase the price and transfer the cost, by increasing the demand it can profit. The point you didn’t understand is, what is happening to extra cost incurred to the halal certificate. The answer is company can reduce its profit margin per unit and increase the sales it can profit more. This is what I have explained above and please take your time to read. Formula is

        Total profit = total sales * (unit price –unit cost)

        Here (unit price –unit cost) is called margin, if unit price is NOT changed by taking halal certificate unit cost will increase a bit and margin will reduce but as demand increase (as Muslim will also buy) total profit will increase to the company.
        BTW, if halal certificate is not there Muslims will not lose anything, as it’s a religious obligation to consume halal they simply restrict their use and non-Muslim business will face a reduction in business, that time don’t shout Muslims are not buying.
        So, intellectuals in the community should lead a society if not distraction can be foreseen.

      • Concern

        better watch this in addition to below given balumgala video

  • BigQuestion

    Jealousy and greedy is behind this budu balu sena members.
    Unfortunately it’s time to teach them buddha’s teaching on the outcome of such diseases.

    Also their action may cast doubt on the people that Buddhism cannot be saved in sri lanka with its teaching as it has no validity in contemporary society hence need to be saved by restricting others religious freedom ( by destroying worship places and restricting their practices)

  • Erandi

    We can remember what Muslim King had done to Nalanda in India after could not find any Koran in the temple premises.Killed thousands of Buddhist monks.At present what Muslim are doing for Buddhists who living in Bangladesh?No wonder Muslim will apply samething to Srilanka .We must act now we are not telling do harm to Muslim. As a Buddhist country everyone can live peacefully.Can you see how Saudi countries ruling their country never allow to take a Buddhist or Jesus statute to their countries.We don’t want sharia law here.Srilanka is not like that we respect every religion.We have to protect our culture and religion.

    • confused

      If you have to harm other religious people to safeguard your religion or to spread it, then that means something is wrong with your religion!!
      The way Sri Lankan Budhist are behaving these days, people have revulsion against the religion and don’t want to have anything to do with the religion or the people who “practice” it.

      In fact Budhism is not “practiced” by Budhist in Sri Lanka(except a few). They practice the opposite of true Budhism!!

    • Gama Rala

      @ Erandi. A childish comment from you. If Muslim kings did wrong to other religious people in India or elsewhere, does that mean the Monks of our country can do the same to others? Did you hear what Burmese Buddhist did for Rohingya Muslims?? Pls remove hatred from your mind and heart and try to be good human being before you being a Buddhist..Those educated Buddhist in Sri Lanka will never listen to these so called Bodu Bala Sena, which is surely funded by government of MR..Religious freedom in other countries like (Saudi or Muslims countries) it is their law of the land. Did Sri Lankan Muslims tell Saudi government not to allow buddha statues to be worshipped there???

    • Mohamed Iqbal

      What Muslims practicing are not totally true religion of Islam, According to Sharia Law culprit of a murder should be executed by the rulers after a fair trial. It should apply to the Murderers of Budhist in Bangaladesh, Murderers of Nalanda in India, Murderers of 9/11 in USA, Murderers in Afghanistan,, Murderers of Hasitha Madawala, Murderes of Baratha Laxman Premachandra, It’s not fair to compare the freedom of practicing religion for a Citizen of Sri Lanka and an Expatriate in Saudi Arabia. All expatriate have agreed to respect the law of the country before they enter Saudi Arabia, As they requesting to wear the appropriate clothes when you are entering to Dalada Maligawa. I don’t believe it as a discrimination. As a Muslim we shouldn’t find faults on Buddhist for not to allowing Muslim Women to wear the head covers when entering Dalada Maligawa. As peace loving citizen of this mother land specially as Muslim, We never ask any one to Impose sharia Law as accused and as a minority we have no right to go against the majority. But my humble request is eradicate the existing killing field.

    • http://Google Nayana

      Great I agree with your thoughts

    • Eveready

      @ Erandi
      You comment is indeed childish, Bangladeshi mobs thought the same way you do. Bangladeshi’s mobs killed Buddhist because Buddhist in Myanmar killed and burned Muslims. If you think what happened in bangaladesh is something to do with sri lankan Muslims, then what they thought in Bangladesh is exactly same as your thinking. Don’t blame others while carrying the same thought.
      You heard only about nalanda and hope you never heard about hulagu khan, a Buddhist Mongol emperor killed, rape and burn many hundred thousands of Muslims in Iraq and destroyed a well developed city of Bagdad. If Muslim can do the same type of propaganda as your people do its not that difficult to highlight his personnel atrocities to Muslims and create bitterness over the Buddhist in the mind of Muslims all over the world specially in middle east where many sri lankan Buddhist work. While destroyed a country better not to talk about a library and a monastery. If you want to live in past and recall them, do it, may be in that what some are good at.
      Muslims will certainly retaliate in sri lanka soon or later, not because of they want to, because people like you will make them to do by oppressing their rights.

    • Juki

      One of the attempt to propagate hatefulness towards Muslims is done by claiming that Muslim invasion made Buddhism to disappear from India. Many blindly believe this without thinking twice how Hinduism survived despite of the invasion. Also many Buddhist doesn’t know the fact that how many Buddhist structures prevail in south India where Muslims never ruled but Buddhism no longer exist.

      http://sikhspectrum.com/2008/03/disappearance-of-buddhism-from-india-an-untold-story/

      If people choose to change religion is wrong then changing the religion to Buddhism in sri lanka itself wrong as origin of Buddhism is India, not sri lanka

    • Gagerman

      You can protect your culture and religion by practicing them and not imposing them on others. While dressing as for western fashion and opening bars almost in every km you are certainly protecting the religion and culture.

    • Fernando

      “As a Buddhist country”

      Small correction, it has to be “As a Buddhist majority country.”

      Country is not belongs to just Buddhist, in that case it has to be 100% Buddhist as citizen just like Vatican and Saudi. If its not the case it has to be Buddhist majority country. Countries are for people and not for religion. All the citizen in a country share same right and failure to honor such is the cause for feuds. So, learn to define words properly.

    • Mohamed

      @Erandi

      First of all try to define matters properly to grasp the facts. Saudi or Vatican is not a place where multi religious people live as their own citizen (note the point citizen).therefore muslims will not demand sharia law when it comes to common law, even though many conduct among Muslims is govern by personnel law, infact even muslim prayer is part of sharia and you lack of understanding has nothing to do with law. Mean time If you take rest of the Muslim countries which are more than 50+, minority freedom is respected and protected as they are its own citizen even in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh those who attacked Buddhist were arrested and taken in front of law. Bangladeshi government didn’t give a blind eye thinking that mobs are retaliated for what Myanmar Buddhist did to Muslims or anything else. Consider the situation in sri lanka and Myanmar theravada Buddhism is practiced. Did any of these culprits who demolished mosque or attacked Muslims taken in front of law. This is the place shamefulness lies when treating its OWN CITIZEN.

      Also you need to define what Buddhist country means. It doesn’t mean that Buddhist only own this country, it simply means that Buddhist are majority in a country where all citizen share same right. Don’t get emotional, take your time to think and grasp the facts. years back Buddhist suprimism taken this country to three decade war and don’t you think same is being repeated now. I don’t know whether you are a real Buddhist or a person portending like a Buddhist, whatever it is let this be an answer to likeminded people.

      This is the story of Bangladesh

      http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-02/south-asia/34217239_1_buddhists-traditional-communal-harmony-muslim-bangladesh

      Now tell me don’t you think present demolition of mosque, business premises attacks and others which are carried out with police support to the mobs are shameful for sri Lankan Buddhist, police as well as government

  • Rana

    The Buddhist teachings and Srilanka’s Buddhist establishment are two different things. If we were act accordingly buddhist teachings, when we were attacked by LTTE terrorists, Buddhism and the Sinhalese already wipe out.

    Muslims scattered in SL and they have hidden ajendas. I’m not saying all muslims like that. But muslims in eastern,north western ,western provinces have extremist ideas and they rapidly spreading it to the minds of the muslims in rest of the country. There first aim is to invade buddhist sacred areas and erect a prayer station or a small mosque. In Balangoda,[Kurugala,], In Mavanella Raja Maha viharaya and in Pothuvil Muhudu maha viharaya,Dambulla Raja maha viharaya are the few examples. Now who create these problems. Is it Buddhists?

    What Bodu Bala Sena or JHU doing is to protect Buddhist establishment in SL. If there is no threat to Buddhist establishment in SL, there is no need to protest.
    One Jayalath here said that in Communist countries they ban religions. I want to tell him that Buddhism not only a religion but it is a philosophy. It is the reality. I’m not wondering the religions don’t have philosophy or reality sooner or later reject by the society, and no need to ban by the authorities.

    • Eveready

      Anuradapura is the first city in sri lanka and it had different group of people, this was mentioned even in mahavamsa. The point is not all anurada pura is holly (for buddist) and if so they should not keep toilets and bars. That’s not happening that way. Infact this is what happening in In Balangoda,[Kurugala,], In Mavanella and Pothuvil, Dambulla and all the places they mention. Sacred is for you is temple and not acres around them. First of all answer the question that who declare sacredness in Buddhism and based on what principle. While not having a clear idea they manage to declare acres and acres as sacred to invade Muslim’s assets and properties and they call themselves Buddhist.
      This is an old article published in times, this is one such example
      http://www.sundaytimes.lk/980719/plus2.html

      Inshort what you try to say is Buddhit concepts are impractical and incomplete hence new concepts are added. That’s clear for all

    • Highlander

      “The Buddhist teachings and Srilanka’s Buddhist establishment are two different things………”

      if Buddhist establishments cannot follow Buddhist teaching, for what Buddhism; a not followable religion need to be protected for? it’s clear that the objective is not to protect Buddhism. its simply invading others right under the pretext of protecting Buddhism.

      Virginity cannot be protected by…. (you know what I mean)

      • Rana

        Thanks Erandi.

        Hey Hilander, the duty of SL monks to protect both buddhism and the sinhala nation in SL. That is why when LTTE attack us, monks derobe and join the army to fight. You and rest of the guys want monks to stay in the temples and mind their religious matters so that you guys can invade all the temple lands as well as sacred[arch.] areas and erect mosques etc.. In this complex soceity monks cannot stay in temples. They[monks] can see the impending threat to Buddhism in this country. I’m glad that BBS and JHU effort to protect buddhism in SL . Can you give one example where buddhist monks invade mosques.kovils or churchs?

        • Thamilchelvan

          This are few hindu temple destroyed by Buddhist during 83 riots. note that many temple were not listed here after 83 riots to date

          1. Viswanatha Sivan Temple in Trincomalee
          2. Krishnan Temple in Trincomalee
          3. Saneeswaran Temple in Trincomalee
          4. Natesar Temple in Sivayogapuram, Trincomalee
          5. Sri Tillaiambala Pillaiyar Temple in Anbuvalipuram, Trincomalee
          6. Chithivinayakar Temple in Sinnatoduvai, Trincomalee
          7. Vilankulam Pillaiyar Temple on Kandy Road, Trincomalee
          8. Vyrutru Pillaiyar Temple on Kandy Road, Trincomalee
          9. Pillaiyar Temple in China Bay, Trincomalee
          10. Upparu Pillaiyar Temple in Trincomalee
          11. Kitulootra Pallaiyar Temple in Kanniyai, Trincomalee
          12. Kitulootra Murugan Temple in Trincomalee
          13. Barathipuram Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
          14. Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
          15. Mudalikulam Pillaiyar Temple in Pankulam, Trincomalee
          16. Ellai Kali Kovil in Pankulam, Trincomalee
          17. Pillaiyar Temple in Panmadawachchi, Trincomalee
          18. Papanasa Teertapillaiyar Temple in Trincomalee
          19. Sri Pathini Amman Temple in Neelapalai, Kilivetti
          20. Sri Kamakshi Ambal Temple in Jaffna
          21. Saiva Maha Sabha in Kurunegala
          22. Udupi Sri Muthuvinayakar Temple in Matale
          23. Sri Muthumari Amman Temple in Matale
          24. Muthuvinayakar Temple in Matale
          25. Sri Chithivinayakar Temple in Matale
          26. Sri Kadiresan Temple in Matale
          27. Sri Poobalakrishnar Ashram in Matale
          28. Sri Ganga Vinayakar Temple in Madulkelle
          29. Kurinji Kumaran Temple, Peradeniya
          30. Sri Muthumariamman Temple in Nawalapitya
          31. Atmajothy Nilayam in Nawalapitiya
          32. Athivinayakar Temple in Haldumulla, Haputale
          33. Sri Sivasubramanya Temple in Bandarawela
          34. Sri Kadiresan Temple in Badulla
          35. Hindu Temple in Malangama, Badulla
          36. Hindu Temple in Narangala, Badulla
          37. Kali Temple in Rockhill, Badulla
          38. Sri Poobalavinayakar Temple in Peliyagoda
          39. Sri Balaselvavinayakar Temple in Maradana, Colombo
          40. Sri Devi Karumari Amman Temple in Maligawatte, Colombo
          42. Srimath Arunachaleswara Devasthanam in Colombo
          43. Ramakrishna Mission, Colombo
          44. Kandasamy Temple in Panadura
          45. Sri Subramanya Temple in Matara
          46. Hindu Pilgrims’ Rest in Matara

          This is also happed just like peaceful way of destroying Muslims worship places in Dambullah, anuradhapur, kurunegala, etc and Christian churches in Malabe, Weeraketiya and many other places

          http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/sri-lanka-sri-lankasri-lanka-20668/

          Peaceful incidents in Myanmar also given good international recognition to Buddhism

          Thanks to such peaceful activity Buddhism is becoming world renowned religion for peace and need to be protected

          http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137812/william-mcgowan/buddhists-behaving-badly

          • http://discourssions.wordpress.com yapa

            Dear Thamilchelvan;

            What is the source of the list above?

            Can you substantiate what you have said above?

            Thanks!

          • Thamilchelvan
          • http://discourssions.wordpress.com yapa

            Dear Thamilchelvan;

            Did you check the veracity of the above article and are you sure it is an unbiased article?

            Thanks!

          • http://discourssions.wordpress.com yapa

            Dear Thamilchelvan;

            If I suggest to you that this kind of unsupported (fabricated?)propaganda is one of the root causes for the rise of organizations like BoduBalasena, what is your opinion about it?

            Thanks!

          • Thamilchelvan

            @yapa

            credibility of the source that i had shared is well known by every adult that lived in 83, i my self seen many damages in the list. please don’t try to sweep matters under the carpet. honesty is a character expected among buddist. the reason for BBS is reluctant to practice its own religion.

          • Off the Cuff

            Dear Thamilchelvan,

            You say “credibility of the source that i had shared is well known by every adult that lived in 83,…. “

            Your source writes a load of Garbage and you have lost credibility by using such a source. This is something your source states in January 2011

            “…… SL President and other govt officials are all out to destroy the identity of Hindus in SL ……At present there are several other activities taking place to erase the identity of Hindu religion and culture in SL”

            Yet two years later we see the Vel festival where Hindu Idols are paraded on Public Roads being celebrated on the MAIN Public roads all over the Island, even in the predominantly Sinhala South.

            Ms. Thulasi Muttulingam (an Ethnic Tamil) writing on 31 July 2012, 11:17 pm (19 months later) to DBS Jayaraj states

            Hindu devotees will be thronging the thoroughfares of Colombo in colourful processions over the next few days. Chariot processions, coconuts being smashed, people decked in their brightest colours worshipping with camphor and flame, youngsters dancing the Kavadi dance and many other features of the Tamil Hindu community will be displayed on the streets of Colombo, instead of behind their temple walls, as is usually the case. This is one of the most important Hindu festivals hosted in Colombo; the Adi Vel Festival, which has a unique history going back to 1874.

            “The Kataragama festival currently ongoing is a celebration of the young lovers’ honeymoon period. Every day, for 14 consecutive days, the priests of the temple will take the God (in his form as a yantra), in a royal procession to the temple of Sri Valli and leave him there for a couple of hours.
            On the day before the last of the festival, the assumed ending period of the honeymoon, he spends the entire night with her. The last day is the ‘water cutting’ ceremony where the deity is carried to the Menik Ganga to purify himself. The Kapurala (priest) officiating will dip the yantra in the water to signify his bathing and purification.

            So widespread is this God’s worship in Sri Lanka, that it is known of as a cult -following. He has widespread followers among both Sinhalese Buddhists and Tamil Hindus. Even people of other denominations are known to visit the shrine and as such, Kataragama is considered one of the unifying places of pilgrimage in the country.

            For centuries, during this peak festival time, people from all over Sri Lanka – though mostly from the North and East, had been paying homage to the deity by undertaking a pada yatra (pilgrimage on foot), an annual feature for many Hindus.

            It isn’t hard to understand why this worship is considered a cult. Tamils in Colombo were devastated when in 1874, a cholera outbreak made the then colonial government prohibit the pada yatra for that year. Thus was born the Colombo Vel Festival, a minor replica of the Kataragama Festival. Unable to go to their beloved deity in Kataragama, the Colombo devotees made do with the local Murugan temples in their own place. It was so successful that it eventually became an annual feature in Colombo

            At the present time, the deities are brought in a procession from the Sammangodu Sri Kathirvelayutha Swamy Temple in Pettah to the Sri Manickavinayagar temple in Bambalapitiya and separately, from the Kathiresan Kovil in Pettah to the New Kathiresan Kovil in Bambalapitiya.
            http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/8998

            Here are pictures of the Vel Festival pageant along with important Buddhist pageants for you to compare. Hopefully you will not say that the people who are doing penance with hooks and needles in their bodies are Tamils tortured by the Sinhalese.

            https://www.google.lk/search?q=vel+festival+sri+lanka&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Lur&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GCsEUd-uAo3jrAeiu4DgDA&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1147&bih=657

            The govt that destroyed the most powerful Terrorists organisation in the world does not seem to have done a very good job in destroying the Hindu Religion or Culture. By the way the President is seen attending the festival and making a good job of destroying Hindu and Tamil Culture.

            Though God worship is not a part of Buddhist Philosophy a near 100% of Buddhist Temples have a place for Hindu Gods.

            The PRIME cultural celebration for the Sinhalese is the New Year that falls in April. But it is not just a Sinhala celebration it is also a Tamil celebration. The govt declares two days in April as a Statutory Holiday covering the whole work force of the country. These two days have been officially designated as the Sinhala AND Tamil New Year Holiday. It has been so all along and it is so Today.

            Hence to destroy Tamil Hindu Culture is to destroy Sinhala Culture as well.

            You say “honesty is a character expected among buddist.”

            Surprise, surprise, is it not expected from the Rest?
            Don’t be daft Thamilchelvan, which religion teaches to Lie?

            BTW, you seem to be hero worshiping Thamilchelvan the terrorist who was killed in an air raid.

          • http://discourssions.wordpress.com yapa

            Dear Thamilchelvan;

            “credibility of the source that i had shared is well known by every adult that lived in 83, i my self seen many damages in the list.”

            It seems you are offended with my request to substantiate your claim. I think such a request is not a reason for such a reaction and I believe its claimant’s duty to substantiate what he claims especially in a public forum, where there could be enough people who has no or has little knowledge about the claim unlike you who claim to seen yourself the damage to substantiate the earlier claim. However, I don’t consider (and no reasonable man would consider)citing a very personal experience unsupported by any other evidence is a convincing to substantiate a claim. On the other hand, as per your comment you have seen only some of them, and indicates claiming additional things that were not seen by you. Further, really at the beginning those information were not even forwarded as your personal experience, but as copied from a biased article and submitted as unquestionably correct truths. It seems you are not patient of questioning the veracity of information. If that is the case, only you and your wife would believe what you publish in public media. Congratulations!

        • Highlander

          @Rana
          You simply say that buddism does not prescribe solution to every problem due to its incompleteness in teaching hence every dick and harry need to figure out a solution by him/herself. As a consequence of this restricting other religious freedom is considered as solution by monks and defined sacred places by themselves where bar and shops ( this itself shows these are not temple property) are allowed but not other worship places. so by taking others property and destroying their worship places Buddhism is being protected in sri lanka.

          Infact such action in the past brought LTTE to the seen and now attacks are going against all Hindus, Muslims and Christian perhaps another war is not very far. But this time India, Iran and Pakistan will not come to rescue. Good luck. Enjoy!

  • Ranjith

    Is bodu bala sena also financed by isreal? According to New Delhi based fortnightly “Milli Gazette” of 1-15 December 2009, Hindu extremist organizations shiva sena got money from Israel via Europe to kindle communal riots against Muslims. Indian Home Ministry disclosed that in 2008 alone RS 7877 crores were received by Hindu organizations which were used for subversive activities in the form of riots, bomb blasts and creating circumstances detrimental to Muslims. The report added that “investigation give credence to the belief that Hindu terrorists are poisoning the socio-political atmosphere in India and Israel is helping them through financial help”.

    also need to be question why champika ranawaka is supporting Israel knowing that In the book “By Way of Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer” page 67 and 68; which says as “The Israelis also trained elite forces, for both sides( Tamil militants and the government forces) without either side knowing about the other and cheat the World Bank and other investors out of millions of dollars to pay for all the arms they were buying from them” This book was written by Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy whom were former mossad agents. Is JHU and budubala sena getting money from Israel so that they are not against Israel and may help to increase the diplomatic ties with sri lanka government? Final objective of such ties will be arm deals and for that another war is a pre-request.by financing racist organisation this can be achived.

    It’s a known fact that most of the muslims are UNP or MLC supporters, only few percentage supports the present government party on an election. Government’s failure to protect Muslim’s rights shows the hidden hand cannot be just bodu balu sena and JHU, without government support these organizations cannot survive in the first place. However keeping a different face to Middle East countries to get doles and showing their action under the table is not something new to government.

    When I put forward these point last time groundview was hacked and my comments were taken out. Isn’t this prove what has mentioned are legitimate points.

    • Jayalath

      To

      Ranjith ,

      Hello have you born yesterday ? What ever the truth of these allegations , perhaps can be true , the life is a game , including religion , moral things and almost every thing are objects of game untill six feet come along one day . Now you have revealed about the connection of Isreal , yes could be , or could not . Every body are involved with some thing to survive . Didn’t we take support of Dutch to kick out Portuguese ? After English to kickout Dutch ? Rajapaksa had support of JVP to come to power , then jap sat on same stage with Unp against Rajapaksa !

      LTTE was supported by India once upon time and turned down three years ago and supported us to all out game with Rajapaksa .
      When Russian left , Nato thought Afganistan game is over and it is heaven of USA , see what is happening my friend . This is the game , now last ten years fighting them to defeat once they armed , don’t you still convince the game ?
      If not, honestly you need to stand on head to see whether it work in that posture .
      Come on my friend , grow up . That is why I believe life is a game , if you can’t play it that you are a failure .

      I red many comments over Bodu Bala Sena and the most comments arnt even close to the real life , just like stories of own fantasies . I suppose it is important to reveal any thing as they are, because it helps to find the right answer .unless we may wander as we always do .

      So , my friend our problems do not have answers , because we never know where the problem come from ,we only can have that Bala This Bala time by time .
      And beautiful comments , comments , comments , the problem seems worst tomorrow that today . This is called third world countries LEGACY . Tata bye bye

      • ReJaya

        @ Jayalath

        You are right, with the help of bala will bring those who play game inside the country, will make enemies among our own communities, when the other side react to the action will call them terrorist. Infact this is what we did for last 30 years and will continue to do. You enjoy the news along with two children from UK and I’ll enjoy the news with my children from Canada

      • Thinktank
      • Thinktank
        • Jayalath

          To think tank
          You got it wrong , what I said was most comments weren’t in reality ,because some comments were like In a drama , in real life that none of us like each other, but in publicly admit saying we are people who are living peacefully harmony , It is not true . In Kandy we have singhala Welada peramuna and Muslim have some thing , these people are playing a hidden game , which is well known in the high street .
          This is my concern . We need to speak the truth of this ,then only we can find the answers , instead of saying one thing doing one thing .
          Do you believe Tamils like Sinhalese in real life , or do you believe Muslims like Sinhalese in real life , do you believe Sinhalese like Muslim or Tamil in rel life , no , this is the truth . So , we must think about why we dont like each other ,and why is the contrary . .before any expectations .and our discussion should be why is that ?
          I do not believe it should carry this way any more , but what evidances you have to prove that things are better now or tomorrow ?

          Ofcorse , this type of feuds wil be woeful to the economy , and better thinking of forward. So it is worth to have a self criticism by every one for own misses .

      • Ranjith
        • Jayalath

          To Ranjth

          I said the life is a game , and every one playing a game . The religions play a major game , as you know , all monks play a game , priests and all religious people play games . So, why Bodu Bala can’t , . One kill one to survive .middle of this year Isreal will attack Iran to destroy all nuclear facilities , why ? For the survival of Isreal . But it seems to be wrong And against the order , one can raise a question like this , if Isreal could have nuclear what the hell Iran cant have , yes , it’s right to argue , but it is not the game , the game is attacked and put others under your feet , this is what happened through out the human history Along million years , so it is not possible to avoid .

          Do you know how much money these monks possibly have , lots lots of money . They travel in best cars and living in Air condition houses and preach to us about the great compassion of Buddha . Make me worry and sad . If they can they will sell even Buddha statues all over the country . Do you understand me ? No principal , quality, integrity .
          But. This isn’t only for monks , other religios and faiths are the same . Game , Game , Game .

          Do you know how much money earn by Church of England ,I heard they raise nearly £ billion a year .
          So, it is doesn’t matter how you play the game , you may aware , when Rajapaksa defeated Ltte and now , rob us when he beats Ltte that he was a hero, now a thief or dictator , does he care ? No , because he know the game , he know majority are cattles , so he plays the game .

          I’m sorry , I put in this manner , as there isn’t any other way to discuss , because the things are that bad ,and worst , you and me cant turn thing right , if we can we have to first realise the truth , unless it wouldn’t work , I’m fed up and sad with what happen around us .

          • Ranjith

            @Ranjith

            I agree with you, the game should be defined with just and unjust, unjust should be highlighted and should brought to the justice. If you leave everything as game and give a blind eye then human will fail to stand as a civilized society

        • Jayalath

          To Ranjth
          We have enough people to build our country voluntarily , there are working around the world , from scientist to labour .why they are not interesting to come back and give their service free ? They cannot stand these political games . From the teenage to adult is a game . We are bunch of thieves . How can a country go forward. What we do end of the day is pointing finger at other countries .

          This is needed to sorted as soon as possible , unless our kids future would be a chaos .i know what you mean ,but the grounds we got now isn’t good .
          If we do so we must first save our people from the religious myths . Which has to Be the number one , biggest threat of society and worst enemy of the truth . Can we do that ? Religion can be practised at home not in the city ., can we take all the religious building to need of public . ?
          Can we teach our children to think scientifically ? Can we place our people in law ? Can we independently think or have any chance of putting all ideas together regardless race or religion and make a rational decision over any thing come along in the interest of country?
          If we can fulfill the prime needs that we can drive the country into better place . Don’t you think?

  • Erandi

    Rana I completely agreed your statement. There should be somebody to protect Buddhism. “Bodu Bala Sena” we are with you. We do all these peacefully without harming anybody those who are telling killing 1000 monks is childish.

    • Thamilchelvan

      I don’t see anywhere written above killing 1000 monks is childish, all I can read above is killing in one place had been attributing to somewhere else is what childish. Seems to me you have serious grasping problem. Without harming anybody, are you serious? Please don’t joke

  • Happy Heathen

    Erandi
    01/19/2013 • 6:07 am

    Why do you or anyone else have to protect Buddhism? The only protection Buddhism needs is from the myopic people like you. After all isn’t the concept of impermanence a main tenant of Buddhism? It appears that you don’t seem to know what you are talking about.

    On a different note, I am very disappointed that Groudviews always seems to publish articles critical of Buddhism when there are kooks and fanatics in every other religious denomination. Such selective criticism of religion adds more fuel for ‘international conspiracy’ brigade and the likes of Bodu Bala Sena and makes the masses lean towards these fanatics. Is that what GV wants?
    In fact the other religious fanatics are more harmful than Bodu Bala as they go under the radar.

    • Thamilchelvan

      Perhaps you need to follow groundviews more than you do. It’s a fact that after LTTE militant only Buddhist militants are threatening peace in sri lanka hence their activates are being highlighted. What’s wrong in it? You won’t find any Tamil, Muslim, or Christian group in SRI LANKA conducting such cheap activity to publish here.

      • Happy Heathen

        Thamilchelvan
        01/19/2013 • 9:03 pm

        Perhaps you need a reality check…

        1. who opposes gender rights in Sri Lanka, specifically contraception and abortion rights? Who believes that wearing a condom will lead you to eternal damnation!

        2. who opposes animal rights in Sri Lanka?

        3. who opposes gay and lesbian rights in Sri Lanka?

        Let’s get this straight one more time……

        There is absolutely nothing wrong in criticising religion.
        In fact I’ll go one step further and CALL FOR BANNING ALL ORGANISED RELIGIONS!

        My problem is the selective criticism of Buddhism as if The Koran, The Bible, The Veda, The Tora is the true world of GOD(s)!!!!

        • Thamilchelvan

          Abortion right, gay marriage are controversial in every community (including US), so do the animal rights where vegetarian and non vegetarian do fight even in US and europe. Perhaps you didn’t get the topic clearly. It’s about taking others Religious right or religious freedom in sri lanka.for the moment only Buddhist threatening it.

          • Happy Heathen

            Thamilchelvan
            01/21/2013 • 3:58 am

            To show highly religious US as an example of the liberal human rights is pure misinformation.

            Abortion rights and gay rights are mostly controversial in highly religious societies. Hence my original argument about banning all religions still holds water.
            Rather than picking on Buddhism what GV should have done is to push for a SECULAR CONSTITUTION. (I’ve never seen a single article on Gay Rights, Animal Rights and or Secularism published here on GV!!!)
            Selective sustained attack on Buddhism will only push the masses more towards the fanatics such as Bodu Bala.

            I didn’t say to ban animal slaughter for consumption even thought there are very convincing arguments for it. (please read the thread properly).
            Halal is a cruel way of killing animals to appease an imaginary, sexist, homophobic, racist, megalomaniacal God which should be banned outright.
            I don’t care whether it is coming from Bodu-Bala or KKK or Klaus Barbie , the animal cruelty should be stopped. PERIOD.

            As for your argument, these religious fanatics should have their way (what you call Religious Freedom) to run amok and keep slaves, kill animals, gays and lesbians, non-believers? Wow we really live in a Flat Earth Society.

            BTW don’t forget FREEDOM FROM RELIGION is a basic human right….

          • Thamilchelvan

            Every religion got its extremist element and every secular thought got its extremist element, can we name you a secular extremist. Perhaps you fail to grasp the fact that religious freedom means choice of following a religion or not to following any of them. Your approach is nothing but insisting to implement your way of thinking. In a practical sense you are not reaching anywhere. Any religion if you criticize with partial understanding for what they actually do not stand then I see it as your weakness. As I know the religion of others I don’t have to accept blindly whatever you say about them. Also events in sri lanka is what matters to us. It’s clear who is breaching the law

          • Happy Heathen

            Thamilchelvan
            01/21/2013 • 9:24 pm

            You are just beating about the bush.

            The question is simple

            Are you saying that just because freedom of religion is a basic human-right we should allow;

            1. Murderers
            2. Sexists/Misogynists/Chauvinists
            3. Homophobic mobs

            to run amok as it is allowed in their holy books?

            If your answer is NO, then there is no need for religion as it has been proved as a dated ideology.

            If your answer is YES, then any one can do anything under the guise of religious freedom and get away with it.

            I can kill my neighbor for apostasy, I can keep slaves, I can impale and burn heretics, heathens and non-believers, I can treat women, gays, lesbian like shit….well the list goes on. It would be like Spanish Inquisition!

            Furthermore, I can easily subvert your own fallacious argument and say “Every religion got its moderate/good element and every secular thought got its moderate/good element” and where does that leave us?
            BTW what does religious extremism mean….following the holy book? I thought that was the idea, to the follow the word of your imaginary master!

          • Happy Heathen

            concern
            01/21/2013 • 9:28 pm

            “You better ask the question with billions who follow many religions”

            …yeah right, and the overwhelming majority voted for Mahinda Rajapakse!

          • Concern

            @Heathen

            All you baseless criticisms that you picked up from islamophobia sites are well answered in the earlier discussion, as I mentioned above repeating them just for you is utter waste of time and also not the objective of this forum. This simply shows that you don’t follow the whole discussion and just diverts people here and there which is basically an immature act. So if you really want to get answers for all the criticism you made either read the discussion again or else search on the web to find out answers given to islamophobies from Islamic sites. In fact its good that people like you exist as many people will get the real understanding after reading the facts.

            http://groundviews.org/2012/10/31/why-religious-intolerance-makes-me-mad/

            Haven’t you read the links in that such as

            http://www.whyislam.org/faqs/islam-on-violence/what-about-verses-in-the-qur%E2%80%99an-that-encourage-you-to-kill-non-believers-wherever-you-find-them/

            http://www.islamicperspectives.com/apostasy1.htm

            http://islamqa.info/en/ref/94840

            http://www.islamswomen.com/articles/do_muslim_women_have_rights.php

            Whatever it is, the discussion of this forum is not which religion is right or wrong, or is there a need for a religion. The reality is people follow religion and there is a situation in SL portion of one religious sect try to polities their religion for material gain. Also as many religions are against the activities that you personally prefer you might be against them, that has nothing to do with this forum.

      • Happy Heathen

        concern
        01/19/2013 • 7:43 pm

        Either you have a serious problem of comprehending simple logic and/or you are deviously side stepping them main argument to talk about the world turning into gay!!!!
        (why is GV giving space for these homophobics and chauvinists!!!!!!)

        Please establish the need for religion in a modern world?

        You passionately talk about religious co-existence, but secretly think that all the religions barring yours in inferior. Assuming you are a follower of Mahound, why don;t you believe in Christ or Vishnu or Thor or Athena? (Can I kindly remind you that you are yet to answer this from the previous thread!)

        As for http://groundviews.org/2012/10/31/why-religious-intolerance-makes-me-mad/ if you read the thread carefully the Creationists have been convincingly beaten!!!

        • Neoscientist

          Really, I had seen three videos in that made evolutionist speechless

          first
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZiLsXO-dYo

          second
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0N2tiodlk&feature=related

          third
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj7F9gkFNi4&feature=related

          So I feel if you read the thread carefully the evolutionist has been convincingly beaten!!!

        • concern

          “Please establish the need for religion in a modern world?”

          This question itself shows that you haven’t followed the discussion well, people in that explained why human tent to believe.

          You still didn’t figure out the difference between accepting a belief and respecting a belief. A Buddhist will think his religion is right and path to salvation is following it, same is true with Hindu, Christian and Muslim. It has nothing to do with considering other religion as inferior. Respecting is accepting the fact that other religious followers exist with their own set of belief. The problem arise when one interfere in to others practice such as demolishing mosque, Hindu temple or church as did by BSS. If you can’t understand these finer simple points utter waste of time discussing any matter with you as you are not capable of understanding and not suitable for any kind of productive discussion.

          PP: – just by pulling others down you won’t become a pioneer in argument; it simply reflects your incapability

          • Happy Heathen

            Mate, you still haven;t answered the question……..

            And now you asking to respect Homophobes, Chauvinists, Sexists, slave keepers, murderers…….Rajapakse & Co would be very happy to give you a ministerial portfolio as you tick all the correct boxes!

            Demolishing a a building without proper procedure is nothing to do with religion, but to do with rule of law.

            As I demonstrated it few time, the religions cannot co-exist as they are fundamentally different. Furthermore, they are incompatible with modern ethics and morality.

            None of the above is relevant to this discussion unless you establish the need for religion.

          • concern

            You better ask the question with billions who follow many religions

          • Concern

            @ Heathen

            Try to figure out by this picture why still people tend to believe in god and religion

            http://free.yudu.com/item_files/704130/aaf4ebdf2/319879_10151200519540841_1671796599_n.jpg

            P.S: provided that if you can’t understand what Neoscientist has highlighted with three videos above

  • Lankalover

    Racism is a good tool to keep people busy and divert the focus of general public from economic failures and corruption. in a country where jangle law is applied and corruption is the main source of income for politicians these are natural outcome. It’s a known fact that majority sri Lankans are short tempered fools can easily taken for a ride. So government is playing its card. Muslim’s plight is partially due to its own politicians. After all these failure to protect their rights and religious places, Muslim politicians are still kissing Rajapaksa’s feet. Monks can be easily brought in front of law for their dirty activities. Minority politicians and lawyers are boneless chickens so these yellow robe terrorists are taken the law in hand. Only solution is these culprits should be taken in front of law by intellectuals let them be in whatever ethnicity. This is the only solution to protect this country from bankruptcy

  • http://www.groundviews.org Groundviews

    Bodu Bala Sena’s racist tweets, via @BoduBalaSena. Extremely disturbing.

    BBS Tweets

    • Jehan

      “Let’s not tolerate more Muslims in the law college no matter whether there is a leak or not.”

      Well is there any place in Sri Lankan law to bring these culprits in front of law? I forgot, sri lanka is govern by jungle law. What government is doing? What Muslim politicians are doing? When these baseborn will be brought to justice.

      Erandi and Rana, is this the way you people protect Buddhism?

      Shame on you all

  • Pragmatist

    Here’s the real reason why the thug buddhists are starting campaign against muslims. There are many poor helpless tamils living in villages in the south looking for a way to survive. They have lived among sinhalese for many years and would gladly convert to buddhism and become part of the mainstream community. However, sinhala buddhist monks do not lift a finger to help these people nor want them to convert and attend their pure temples. Muslims have begun helping these poor people and have also started converting them in the Islam in large numbers. This is what is feared by the hypocritic Sri Lankan buddhist monks.

    • Observer

      Its true that many Buddhist converts their religion and financial motivated conversion taking place from Buddhism to Christianity and not for any other religion. I don’t oppose conversion of religion as it’s a personnel choice however converting with a financial motive is not acceptable. When it comes to this matter Buddhist anger is reasonable, however it cannot be justified by attacking church or any other religious places. Instead they must organize awareness programs about Buddhism among Buddhist and must take action to bring up poor Sinhalese to better position. For this matter they can even use many valuable assets that under temple custody for no reason. Millions of rupees stagnant in this form and can use productively for betterment of Sinhala Buddhist and this will be beneficial for the countries progress towards development. What is the point in blaming other religion for their own flaw?

  • Ceylonta

    In the row of anti-Muslim campaign these yellow robe terrorist gone to protest againt muslim business. As written in the comment above it proves that nothing but jealousy is leading the these mobs.

    http://www.anvermanatunga.com/english/protest-march-against-muslims-sl/#more-125

    More pictures on this protest is given here

    http://www.jaffnamuslim.com/2013/01/blog-post_9248.html

    As usual police fail to do the job and shamefully requested Nolimit management to discuss the matter with the terrorists. Surprisingly BBS has given a negative comment. If so how many Buddhist extremist groups are functioning in the country. What action government has taken to bring these mobs in front of law?

    • thefacts

      Many people think that Sri Lankan Muslims have inborn skills in business. Their ancestors also came to Sri Lanka for business purposes. Some say that business is in their blood. In every part of Sri Lanka the Muslims are living near town centers because of their businesses. But this is also one main reason for racists to envy. They think that the Muslim businesses are a threat for their community. But it is only foolish to think so, because currently there are many Sinhalese businessmen. It would be better for them to spend that time to develop their businesses rather than spreading hatred for Muslim businesses

      During the three decade war period there was a racist organisation called “Sinhala weera widahana” and they tried to arouse the Sinhalese businessmen against Muslim businesses, but it was unsuccessful. One day they went to Kegalle area for a meeting and one of the speakers called upon the boycotting of Muslim businesses. Suddenly a lady got up and scolded that speaker saying, “Don’t spread racism here; we (Sinhalese) and Muslims are living in harmony in this village.” These racists weren’t successful during the war period. They knew that and now they are using tactics slowly to break this unity. Now I will mention a few incidents they did to break this unity.

      Few months ago one person went to Muslim’s shop in Badulla district and he bought a pair of black socks. When the Muslim businessman sold socks to this man, he asked for a receipt. Since this shop is small and the amount of sales is also less, people don’t usually ask for the receipt. This businessman gave a receipt because the customer asked for a receipt. Later, he came with the police and he complained that this Muslim businessman sold socks which had the image of Buddha. This Muslim businessman was shocked and said that he didn’t sell this type of socks. And he challenged the police, saying that if he had sold this type of socks; find another pair from the shop. But the police also sided with the racist and they arrested the Muslim businessman.

      After arresting this person, the racists staged a fake protest in that town and they had photographed the Muslim businessman/his shop/protest and published on face book. And the next day the police took him to courts. This racist had passed a message to all the lawyers in court not to appear on behalf of Muslim businessman. But the lawyers got to know the truth of this incident and five Sinhalese lawyers came forward to appear on behalf of the Muslim businessman without a fee. Now all the people who are in this area know that this is a fake incident. But the racists are trying to do various things to make their task a success.

      In Embilipitiya town they have distributed leaflets against Haalal logo and Muslim businesses. During that time two Buddhist monks saw a Muslim businessman in that town and they started to beat him. But other Sinhalese people around came to the rescue of the Muslim businessman and then caught those monks and handed them to the police. The police did not taken action and these two monks escaped from their hands. The Chairman of the Embilipitiya Urban council is also a racist Buddhist monk. But the majority of the people and other urban council political leaders are against racism. This Buddhist monk is doing this type of work in order to remain in political power. But most of the people are unhappy with his behaviour.

      In Kaluthara district, a racist came to one of Chicken shop which was run by a Muslim. They told him to close this chicken shop. But this Muslim was not afraid and said, “I’m not closing my shop, tell your people to stop buying chicken from me.” This shop was burnt that night and this Muslim incurred a loss of Rs. 175,000 from this incident.. And this premises owner was also Sinhalese, he and many told him to restart the shop. Now this shop has been reopened.
      In Dehiwela area one of our Muslim has started a burger shop. A racist came to this place and threatened him to close the shop. The reason for this threat is that this burger shop is located in the vicinity of a “Bo tree.” But there is a liquor shop also in the vicinity, for a long period. That liquor shop is owned by a Sinhalese. They are only against the Muslims.

      After three decades of war they started campaign against Cattle slaughtering, Halal products and Muslim businesses out of sheer jealousy. After the downfall of one campaign they will from a different angle. But majority peace loving Sinhala Buddhist aware of these incidents and all peace loving sri Lankan urge government to reveal their stand on this without sweeping matters under the carpet.

  • gulfview

    This is the recent aricle publish in gulf news about sri lankan Buddhist extremism and budu balu sena

    http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/sri-lanka-at-the-crossroads-1.1131223

    Budu balu sena, sri lankan police and government given very good publicity to therwada Buddhism just like recent incident in Myanmar did.
    Will the petro dollars will flow to sri lanka in terms of aids from Qatar, iran, Saudi etc?

    • Weerabahu

      All should note the root cause of why such organisations come up. Sinhalese Buddhist grievences are not been addressed by anybody in Sri Lanka.Even the writer of this article choose to write about Buddhism because he is sure that he is safe to say what he wants to say. So is about other religions but If he talks anything negative about islam or the way they carry out their activities he will sure loose his neck sometime somewhere. All other religions are willing to integrate with each other except Isalm. This is a problem all over the world. Muslims in Canada wants to be seperated from the rest,so is Europe and Australia. Americans and the Russians have already experienced this. Putin in Russia and China have given the harsh reply by crushing the threat. Remember in all these places there are severe anti Islam sentiments boiling.

      The the main reason is they want only themselves in this world and they lookafter themselves. For them anyone belong to other religion is a devil. Can the writer or anyone who comments tell me if any other religion of this world treats other religions like devils?

      The only realistic answer is Muslims need to live with others and respect other religions.

      • http://discourssions.wordpress.com yapa

        Really, bashing “effect” is an easy task like bashing the deer hide at home. One must look for the root causes and treat them to cure the effects. One should not think effects have come up in a clean slate, ignoring causes.Really causes are there, many don’t want to talk of them and ignore them purposely, as it would expose the false virginity of many. The main culprit is the “cause”, than the “effects”.

        Many throw stones at the sinners, but are they less sinners than that particular sinner?

        When sinners wanted to cast stones at the woman, Jesus said “He who hasn’t sinned cast the first stone”. Then the sinners went away, but not the present day ones.

        The first verse of “Kavsilumina” is as follows;

        Thama varadasa nodas – ne merama dos disne
        Nuwan behera namahath – thama muth nodakne kim?

        Which means;

        A person cannot perceive his own faults in the smallest quantity but sees the faults of others. The eye sees everything around it but why cannot it see itself?

        Thanks!

        • Jeevan

          “When sinners wanted to cast stones at the woman, Jesus said “He who hasn’t sinned cast the first stone”. Then the sinners went away, but not the present day ones.”

          What you mean, even Jesus was not free of sin so that he also could not fulfill the law given to Moses?

          If you take teaching out of context this is the outcome.

        • Jeevan

          @yapa

          Why don’t you advise your own people? When it’s come to SRI LANKA above advice suits much for your own people don’t you.

          • yapa

            Yes; I am telling it to all, including Sinhalese.

            Thanks!

      • lankaM

        @Weerabahu

        I feel you have missed many points here and defined the problem just to cater your need. First of all what you mean by respecting religion and in which way sri Lankan Muslims dis-respected Buddhism. Infact some Buddhist fundamentalist are the one disrespecting Islam by invading properties belong to Muslim religious places as well as individuals. This is crystal clear for everyone born with fare mind. If you want to dig deep on this subject I can highlight every single point in every single incident. You need to understand the fact that respecting other religion is not practicing other religion or culture, do you want Muslims to follow your religion and culture? Failure to understand this minor issues and Buddhist supremacy is the cause and don’t blame SRI LANKAN Muslims for any other cause. Infact communistic oppression is the cause Muslims in Russia and China wanted to rebel. Sri Lankan muslim as CITIZENS of the country never went against the country as some other communities did in the past because they haven’t face any personnel threat of marginalizing. Now this new racism which had been imported for many vested interests may even change their position. After creating the problem no point in blaming the reaction to the problem just like in china and Russia.

        many try to advice here to other religion. their practices are their own personnel business, why cant these advisers advise their own to follow their own religion properly?

  • Ahmed Islam

    Its a known fact that some Sinhala Buddhist already got caught to the trap of disuniting internal as well as external forces. But I would like to emphasis that all these are done by minority sect in the majority community in sri lanka and still majority Sinhalese Buddhist are peace loving well-mannered people.in many occasions they had come to the rescue of innocent Muslims. Blaming Buddhism for the destabilizing actions even they are Buddhist monk will not represent the general outline that Buddhism has prescribed. This is no difference from Islam facing in the contemporary society where its teaching were taken out of context by some extremist elements and islamobies. My request for all peace loving people of sri lanka is; together we need to defeat all form of extremism and must protect the rights of every Sri Lankan to achieve sustainable peace in the island.

  • Suren

    Dear Readers
    In the interest of the wider debate, I forward some of the emails I have received in my in private in box

    Dear Brother in Humanity,

    Please accept my sincere thanks for the well analysed article on the emerging threat to
    National Unity. Like the West with the fall of communism found a new enemy – Islam,
    with the fall of LTTE some fanatical Buddhist Monks are targeting Muslims in this
    blessed Island Paradise. Muslims have not at any stage betrayed this nation. Thanks
    to Late Mr. Ashroff for exricating some of the Muslim youth from the LTTE ranks,
    and most of them were subsequently killed by the LTTE. Even though some Muslims
    own some mega businesses, majority of the Muslims are at poverty level. In the city
    of Colombo majority of the Trishaw drivers popularly known as TUK TUK drivers are
    Muslims. You would have read about the beheading of Rizana and what made this
    tenager to leave the shores of Sri Lanka looking for greener pastures. The city of Colombo
    bedecked with shanties where majority of the occupants are Muslim. Muslims striving hard to live
    by their faith, and we expect the Buddhists and the rest to live by their faith. Buddhist culture
    and the way of life is fast vanishing from this land of Buddhism. You go to Kandy you
    will never see a lady in Kandyan saree. Right now hardly a day passes with out a muder
    majority of them are Buddhist. Highest consumption of Alcohol is by the Buddhist and then
    comes the Christians. Majority of the child abusers and rapists are Buddhist. On any poya day
    majority of the attendees are old men, women and children. It is time the Buddhist Clergy,
    and rest of the Buddhist pay attention to these social menace and create a Buddhist community who will
    live by their faith and be useful to humanity. But instead targeting a community who are striving
    hard to live by their faith will be counter productive.

    During the 30 year war with LTTE the west simply did not lift a finger, in fact UK refused to supply
    spare parts for aging batte tanks and air crafts. Besides China, Pakistan played a major role in
    supplying and training out armed forces.

    When the West was targeting Sri Lanka for crime against humanity at the UN, India abstained from voting
    and the entire Muslim world voted in favour of Sri Lanka.

    Please watch this Youtube which throws more light on what I have been saying.

    • Jayalath

      To suren .

      Please do not throw stone being in a glass house .what is your artical meant to me is that your faith and your people are better than others , it is extremely wrong and distorted . Only last week What happened in Algeria is an example . But it was due to some fanatics not all I know that .
      But these type of incidents plant a panic of others minds about fanatic Muslims .which is unavoidable .
      I would never over shadow the contribution of Muslim community over fighting the terrorists and peace .
      Also agree with you that many Muslims are living in Colombo without sufficient hygiene .

      By the way , There is very common a theory that many intellectuals accepted in the world ( not bigots ) which is the behaviour of nature . This word along has many meaning than any other word in this planet .therefore we believe that every thing , and almost every one in this world is constantly changing and it is not suppose to remain as they are .If you think you Shouldn’t you may be belonged to stone age .

      This is what happening every where you go , will you agree if I tell you that world’ s trend now is to renounce the faith and religions ,, because religions are getting out dated . Invalid .you probably may not agree but it is the fact as religion has shown remarkable threat to the human existence .Western world has realised it very well how the religions have caused most problems in the world and there would be free of religions in the western world before very long.

      Next one is the Video, where shows the Third world countries prosperity , this make me a laugh . The world is over crowded my friend , we do not need any more , my personal view is , we must have a law to control the rising numbers of people , but I’m not wonder why our people are such unaware of what happening in the world . This makes me very angry . According to the size of Sri Lanka our population is too much , therefore we need to control .
      Unfortunatly we do not heed of it , before it goes too far we must have a rule of population . Not of thinking giving a rise to the population to fulfill religious ambitions .

      I know all religions do not consider the consequences , some believe it is a matter of god , it isn’t true . Philippine is the evidence , according to their faith the contraceptives are prohibited , what has happened now ? Too many people , the country is unable to sustain , the result majorities are suffering , poverty .
      In India , the biggest problem is population . Even in India the problem is religious purposes and ignorance .
      Therefore I will beg for these stupid people , please think wisely before place your religious blunders .

  • Suren

    AGA Barrie
    Jan 18 (3 days ago)

    to MOHAMED, Arshadh, me, Ameer, tuleyd, Ananda, Daya
    Assalamu Alaikum Ziard and my friends

    Thank you for forwarding the article written Prof. Raghvansuren. Unfortunately he has forgotten or at least avoided some of the facts which is leading to ‘hatred’ that is being promoted in Sri Lanka by few groups who have some hidden agenda. This was revealed too at the Interfaith dialogue held last week and was co chaired by Ven. Kamburupitiya Vajira Thero. It is very saddening to note the lowest levels human beings can stoop to achieve what they want. This is typical approach of the Barbaric Society we are in today. Hope and pray, this trend will encourage the creme of the people not to be misled and prepare themselves against the Barbaric trend.

    Here are my views and for the Prof . to reflect on his article with these points in mind:
    First of all the sites promoting the ‘Hatred’ are not Buddhist as claimed by the writer it is definitely written under Buddhist name but sponsored by International trouble makers. We have in Sri Lanka unwanted Foreign organizations funding and creating divisions and upsetting the balance in many ways as possible and they are not missing a single stone unturned to create trouble. Fortunately, most of the decision makers, are aware and on the look out for such elements. Once again please do not fall into the trap. We need peace and harmony to prevail.
    The need to create hatred between Muslims and Buddhists is very obvious because the country is in the path of discovery, promoting peace and harmony. This is the most precious need of the day hence the terrorist group backed by Foreign forces which failed miserably are doing everything possible to create chaos once again and this time utilizing world trend of Islamaphobia. This was well explained by the Ven Thero at the last Interfaith dialogue and urged both Muslims and Buddhists were not to get provoked and continue to live in harmony. This is our message too to all peace loving human beings both in Canada and the rest of the world including our ever wonderful Sr Lankans.
    BBS, even though it seems to be anti Islamic but it will fail miserably and it will backfire against their wishes as usual. More and more people wants to know about Islam and Muslims which only leads to more conversion through conviction. We all know what happen after 9/11 in the States and now those who engineered the attack on Twin Towers wondering how to stop the wild spread of Islam. It is always repeated in the history the enemies of Islam who help to spread Islam as Allah says in the Quran ‘People can plot but Allah is the best of plotters’
    Prof. claim that Muslims will be threat to Buddhism in Sri lanka but it was never and will never too in the future. As mentioned earlier it will be through false propaganda carried out by those who wants to create problems. The international trend is that due to anti Islamaphobia the truth about Islam is being understood and most the imminent and intelligent people are being guided and convert to Islam. None can stop this as this again is the prediction in the Quran that the masses will enter into the fold of Islam in large number.
    Sri lanka was never founded on Buddhist Zionism as claimed by the Prof in the year 1948 on the contrary it was mistake of a selfish Individual who initiated it, in the mid fifties, to gain power. I am sure everyone who loves Sri lanka will agree this move took us back twenty five years or more and still struggling to recover.
    It is obvious that Sri Lanka is under microscope by the International Hooligans( I am sorry to use this word) under the name of Human Rights to create Chaos once again. This is obviously the remnants of terrorist group aided and abetted by Foreign elements present in Sri Lanka in various forms, to create problems in the peace loving Sri Lanka.
    Please find my article written on the status for publication:
    PAROXYSM ON PEACE AND HARMONY. By AGA Barrie P.Eng. Ontario, Canada.
    Living in peace and harmony was the norm in Sri Lanka and goes back to ancient days, until the foreign influence cast its shadow on the beautiful island once known as the pearl of the Indian Ocean. It was a myth that even the first human being Adam (Peace be upon him) had stepped into the serene part of the globe. So why is there a paroxysm on peace and harmony in this beautiful motherland of ours?
    People of Sri Lanka today and Ceylon were considered as a monument and exemplary for tolerance and understanding of all religions Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism and Islam. Hinduism was the major religion practiced on the island prior to introduction of Buddhism in the third century, while Islam and Christianity came in later; members of all communities stood hand in hand to obtain freedom from Foreign Occupancy in the year 1948.
    With the introduction of Buddhism as state religion and Sinhala as the national language in the mid fifties, the seed of hatred began to grow in the hearts of the Tamil People and was the root cause of the ethnic conflict, resulting migration of minorities and a three decade war in Sri Lanka. Unfortunately the resistance toward the introduction of language changed into a religious war, aided and abetted by some foreign countries calling for separatism and utilizing terrorist tactics. Unique and bold steps taken by the present Government cleared the country of the menace but roots of the original agenda still remains resulting in today’s paroxysm on peace and harmony.
    Following the world trend of Islamaphobia; parties of who wish to create chaos in Sri Lanka have embarked on a mission that is very obvious: To set Muslims against Buddhists. Fortunately, both peace loving communities have identified the threat and are taking all precautions to avoid being provoked.
    Some of the minor day to day conflicts being escalated into major issues but were nipped in the bud by those in authority. This approach is not welcomed by those who intend on creating problems in the country. These groups with hidden agendas have failed miserably to achieve what they wanted in Sri Lanka. They have now, shamelessly, stooped to social and digital media to inject venom into the emotions of the people. They are utilizing the internet and social media to promote hatred and spread stories based on unfounded truth.
    One of the major steps being taken is creating a dialogue and this was done through the Forum for National Amity and Understanding convened by Islamic Secretariat and attended by Ven.Kamburupitiya Vajira Mahanayake Thero. He who documented the roles played by Buddhism and Islam, how both communities have lived in harmony, how some mischief makers wants to spark hatred and create another conflict in the country. He recalled the unfortunate days of the war on terrorism and urged everyone to be cautious and work toward peace and harmony.
    While recognizing the online threat, both Co-Chairmen Mahanayake Thero and Hon. Minister M.H.Mohamed issued the following press release and urged those involved to give it a wide publicity:
    “Sri Lankans are perturbed and distressed at the growing hate campaign being promoted by some individuals through their websites. This is being done to provoke the Muslims with a hidden agenda of creating chaos in the country, especially after having just emerged from three decades of a war on terrorism. Therefore we urge both communities Buddhists and Muslims to not be misled and fall into their trap and urge the entire Sri Lankan population to continue to live in harmony. We further, humbly request those in authority to ban such websites immediately and to curb such sites being permitted to operate in our peaceful country, as we need peace and harmony to prevail.”

    ————————
    Regards
    AGA Barrie, P. Eng.

  • Email

    First, I would like to introduce myself that I am Hiran Gunaratne, Colombo Sri Lanka. The aim of this mail is to express my views on mails I received from some group which is influencing to create racism among our Sri Lankan communities. I believe that my views would bring some result on the matter I am trying to express.

    The whole purpose of this mail is to make you’ll to understand on very important matter which is harming us and making all of us as indecent Sri Lankan. Therefore, I kindly request all of you’ll to read this mail completely and if you wish you can share your views with me.

    As you’ll know we are just trying to stand ourselves as a nation after a bitterest experience of a terrible war of thirty years. The net result is, we lost thousand of good people in this country by destroying our wealth and increasing anger amongst our communities.

    Now I will come to the subject what I need to discuss with you’ll. Why are we trying to start again a similar era hurting Muslims and Tamils? If you look at us as three communities Sinhalese, Tamil and Muslims are the only three set of people living in this country. Our history reminds us living together in harmony. That is why we are representing one national flag for one country. Unfortunately our younger generation is totally misguided by opportunists and politicians for their survival.

    I am pleading, what we are trying do is nothing but fulfilling our dirty politicians and opportunists ideas. And as a good Sinhalese community we try to deteriorating our self by contributing for these evil acts of few uneducated individuals. In every society we can see good and bad people living. But we cannot blame the entire community. To handle bad action there is a legal system in our country.

    Apart from our Sinhalese community, Tamils and Muslims we cannot reject. They are our Sri Lankan. They do not belong any other country. If you look at, Malaysia, 60% Muslims, 20% Chinese- Buddhist and 20% Tamils. Have you’ll ever heard any ethnic problems there? See how much they are developed than us and enjoy the life. The reason is, they do everything together and respecting each other and they enjoy good life. Take Singapore, 50% Chinese, 25% Muslims, 25% Tamils. Still they respect each other’s and do well in every area. The secret is that both countries are totally against discrimination and racialism. And they respect each other identity, religion, language, culture etc. They believe the success is only if you join together as human being.

    If you’ll think of war we faced, who helped us financially? Not India or China. They are only trying to grab our country. China and India not given us anything free. If they give 10 rupees they make sure to take 100 rupees from us. China gave arms to us during war time on huge money. India the same. Today India is trying grab all the good lands in Colombo for what we are suppose to pay them as loan what taken. China is taking all the good projects in our country. And they are trying to split us again with their rivals.

    The only countries helped us and still helping us are the Middle East countries. Not a single so call America and any European countries helped us substantially. All of us remember when UN went against us on humanitarian issues, all America and Europe countries voted against us. Ok, that is all right, what about India? Our close friend. India did not vote favor of us. Only Malaysia, Iran, Russia and other Middle-East countries voted us on favor.

    Today, what is our export? It is totally destroyed. Who’s responsible? Our politicians. Because of poor foreign policies and relationships and bad administration. How are we getting our foreign currency to pay back loans and our politicians to go around the world and spend million of dollars. It’s only from the salaries of our people go and work in Middle East countries. Otherwise, from where are we getting foreign currency? If Middle East countries stop our workers, that is the end of our labour export. That is the only export we have right now. All Europe, America, Japan and Australia are tightening their immigration rules to stop our people going to those countries. Only Middle-East countries are open for us to go and work and send money home.

    Next, who give us oil for longer credit and on low price? If oil is stop what is our plight. Only middles east countries give us oil on concession price. Iran is contributing the large part of it. I think you must know that recently Iran donated us two billion rupees of money that we are supposed to pay them on oil. They donated us that money without taking back.

    Pakistan is the only country who gave us technology during war. Their expertise knowledge in wars and experience shared with us to win the war. Not America and any European country. What did India give us to win the war?

    Who buys our tea? Majority is Middle-East countries. India and Bangladesh captured the European market.

    Think positively, has any Middle-East country forced us on anything like India, China and European?

    We are a small country without technological power. We need to have good friends around us for us to survive in these global arenas. And no powerful country would help us other than these countries I mentioned above.

    Your mails against Muslims and Tamils are receiving to most Sri Lankan abroad and other nations around the world. They all are rejecting your act as we are an uncivilised country. We are not opened minded and we still holding unpopular and unwanted differences amongst our people

    Because we are lack of enlightenment, we try to show anger and jealousy over Muslims, Tamils or anybody, see how much wrong we are doing within our Sinhalese community. So many killings, many rape cases, unjust is everywhere, politicians put us against each other, our wealth is only amongst few families, see our legal system which is more than hundred year old and not serving for innocents. Analyse our education system, it has totally destroyed. Look at our health system; it is only a big talk. What has happened to our farmers? Why are they suicide? What are we eating? Do our majority eat at least good one meal a day? All take-away. How can we bring a healthy society in the future? All will be sick people with malnutrition. The net result is, we would not have good thinkers in our society,

    Muslims good at business because their religious leader, Prophet Mohammed led his life as a trader. And they go in that way. Tamils give more priority for education, hardworking and in that they are successful. We as Sinhalese blame the government from the day we got our degree from the university because government is responsible for providing us jobs. Whereas Muslims and Tamil, start at least collecting bottles and papers to start their living. And that way they become good business peoples. Don’t forget they have come up in hard way. What do we do? Without thinking on any innovative way, blaming the government that they don’t give jobs for us. Or we are jealous over successful people whether Muslims, Tamil or Sinhalese by wasting our time talking gossip around us.

    Don’t forget we need the international whether we like it or not. All our good and bad acts are watch by them very closely.

    Are we really raising our voice against the unjust happening in this country? No, we only know to do everything behind the back. (Not all, please)

    Please, I am repeating don’t take me wrong. This is the truth. And I kindly beg from you’ll to think about truth of this.

    We believe in Buddhism as our faith, but are we practising the same way? We break the main five principles every day. Can we call us as good Buddhists? No, we believe in multiple faiths like many gods. Aren’t we using our Buddhism for advantages in life? Whereas Muslims and Tamils are live with their religions to some extent. How much of liquor production in this country? It is getting doubled every year. Who drink this liquor? Only Sinhalese 95% of it. Who destroy Buddhist temples and Buddha statues? Who kills Buddhist monks? Is it Tamils or Muslims? NO we who do that. So, can we call Buddhist? See how much of unknown killing happening in this country? How much rape cases happening daily? Is our media favour of us? No, they are in the pocket of our politicians.

    – Talk to your inner mind (please, only those who are guilty)

    So, can’t we raise our voice against our own wrong doings? Why we jealous over petty thing of other communities? Can Muslims and Tamils get rid of from this country by pointing one finger at them while our three fingers pointing at us? (Please, those who know history they know what I mean) NO, they are our part of community. We need to go together than spreading these ethnically violent emails around the country and in abroad. In the international picture we have no place to stand because of our own dirty attitudes of some. We are famous in our hospitality. Is it only for foreigner? Why can’t we have that now within us? Like our parents and grandparents did?

    I beg you thousands times, please stop such emails that you’ll spreading against our own part of communities. That only create unrest, unpleasantness and finally we are digging our own grave by showing our barbaric qualities to the world. We destroy our own soul, character, families, society and country. Finally we are totally living against our faith.

    We will try to learn business from Muslims, we will try to learn hardworking from Tamils. Muslims and Tamil want to go together. But we who trying to spread anger amongst them. (Not all our Sinhalese, but few under political agendas, true Sinhalese are peaceful and good human beings) Just because they are good at hardworking and business we should not raise our voice and have jealousy over them. We should be happy to have such people in our society. We must mix our capabilities and talents to the economy of this country to develop as one nation. Otherwise we will continue to split and finally nobody would be successful.

    I am not forgetting that, still our country’s society there are many good people living in and out of the country. I respect all of them. They are much opened minded, Understanding good human being.

    Also many good private organizations are there in our country try to treat everyone equally.

    At the same time sad to mention, certain private organization also executing hidden agenda on racism.

    Not forgetting to admire our Christian community who always choose to be very moderate.

    Think as an individual. Don’t get trap with politician’s tricks for short victories. Think of our future that if all three communities live together in harmony only we can enjoy good life in this country. Unfortunately most of our Buddhist leaders are also behind this materialistic world. Therefore, we can’t expect any good from them. (Only very few Buddhist monks are good but they don’t come to public, because they know what Buddha taught us).

    We will STOP Jealousy!!! Live by the true faith and values in this short span of life.

    Cheers and thanking you for kind consideration

    Hiran

    —-

    posted on behalf of hiran

  • Happy Heathen

    Concern
    01/23/2013 • 12:47 am
    @ Heathen

    “Try to figure out by this picture why still people tend to believe in god and religion”

    There are many reasons for people believing in religion the main reasons being illiteracy and poverty.

    Here is some facts for you;

    1. Illiteracy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WorldMapLiteracy2011.png

    It’s aptly demonstrate that most-religious countries in the word are the most illiterate!

    2. Poverty

    80% of the people live under $ 10% a day and half the world population live under $2.5 a day

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Percentage_population_living_on_less_than_1_dollar_day_2007-2008.png

    Again this demonstrates that the most-religious are the most under-developed.

    And if we use your logic (which is inherently flawed) the norm should be TO LIVE IN POVERTY as majority of the people are poor!!!

    Just because there are billions of people believe in some fairy tale doesn’t automatically make it true or correct. Quantity does not mean quality. It is one of your many specious arguments to derail the original argument.

    • Jayalath

      Well balance ideas and I learned lots too . Thanks

  • Happy Heathen

    Concern
    01/22/2013 • 9:06 pm

    @Heathen

    “All you baseless criticisms that you picked up from islamophobia…”

    Any proof of these baseless criticisms?

    ” ……search on the web to find out answers given to islamophobies from Islamic sites”

    Analogues to asking Dr. Josef Goebbels to comment on Holocaust as if Islam is some kind of rocket science that need deciphering/dumb-down for the masses. Anyone with half a brain could read the Koran and grasp what’s in it.(read my comments on illiteracy)

    ” Whatever it is, the discussion of this forum is not which religion is right or wrong, or is there a need for a religion. The reality is people follow religion and there is a situation in SL portion of one religious sect try to polities their religion for material gain. ”

    Can you imagine BSS operating in a secular society?

    ” Also as many religions are against the activities that you personally prefer you might be against them, that has nothing to do with this forum.”

    Nothing can be further from the truth!

    As much as I treat Vedic religions with disdain like any other religion, there is nothing in Buddhism against contraception, gay/lesbian rights and animal rights. I believe same goes with Hinduism and Jainism. There goes the Utopian myth on peaceful religious co-existence! (However, I must concede that I am no religious scholar; there might be other readers who can shed some light on this if I am wrong?)

    Perhaps this will enlighten you;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_homosexuality
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_and_religion

    You want me to refrain from discussing religion, yet you have the audacity to write some gibberish on Halal. What hypocrisy!

    • Thinktank
      • Happy Heathen

        Thinktank
        01/24/2013 • 3:47 am

        “…… this doesn’t mean that those religion are banned but given freedom.”

        Not entirely correct.

        Ritual slaughter of animals is banned. Slavery is banned. Wearing headscarfs and religious symbols in public are banned. (However, whether Burqua is religious or cultural is debatable) Punishment for Apostasy is banned…..hence the freedom of religion is curtailed and will continue to be curtailed as people move away from bronze age Mesopotamian mythology and rightfully so.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_law_on_secularity_and_conspicuous_religious_symbols_in_schools

        The world has become much more ‘civilized’ than say 200 years ago and thanks to secularists. For example a study done in 1992 found that 48% of animal rights activists were atheists or agnostic.
        (http://www.animalsandsociety.org/assets/library/745_s3.pdf)

        • concern

          @Heathen

          “Ritual slaughter of animals is banned”

          In fact you are a person less informed about other communities. What you mean by ritual slaughter. Its about slaughter for god and keeping them for ritual purpose. If you take this sense Islamic slaughter is not ritual, in fact it’s a charity. It’s given to poor and consumed not wasted in vain. Also note that many western countries animal right advocates take for best exemple Muslims in New Zealand, who use a reversible form of electrical stunning that animals can recover from if they are not immediately slaughtered.

          “Slavery is banned”

          Slavery is banned in Islam well before any other law came in to effect. A free man cannot become a slave in islam except prisoner who wanted to destroy Islam and Muslims. In a time there were no prison system was formed and living was harsh and food were scare, Muslims taken war prisoners as slaves and there were well define laws to treat them well. Even now we know what is the outcome for war prisoners. We need to praise those days humanitarian act which was not killed. Read the link given to you before. I am not here to waste my time with you and just I want to point out the fact that, you are a person non matured and not worth arguing.

          “Wearing headscarfs and religious symbols in public are banned.”

          Really , so France is the only country for you in the west, mean time read some article such rights were regain in UK and many part of the world pointing at freedom of choice. frech move is considered as stone age afford.

          “Punishment for Apostasy is banned”

          Read what I have given above, what a waste of time.

          In short you have no idea about Islam and talking about quran. For a blind rest of the world is dark. Good luck. \

          Ok NOW go ahead with your blind comments. i don’t give a Sh** ………………………

    • prince

      Buddhism is not close to animal rights. Buddhist talk about it not because they love animals its because they don’t like some people. That’s why they are behind castles. Even Buddha died after eating pork which is said as Sukaramaddava

      According to the orthodox Theravada it was soft pork “It is said in the Great Commentary that Sukaramaddava is the already available meat of the pig that is tender and succulent” (Udana commentary (Masefield p1025) Cundasuttava. Pataligamayaga Suukaramaddavanti suukarassa mudusiniddha.m pavattama.msan”ti mahaa-a.t.thakathaaya.m vutta.m.

      Some trying their best to divert the idea that Sukaramaddava as mushroom. but it doesn’t satisfy the language pattern. We don’t call any food or plant by a unique name if its consumed by many. For example we don’t call mango as parrot food though parrots eat them. Secondly if any food is named with specific name of its consumer it has to be consumed only by that animal. If Sukaramaddava is mushroom that is eaten by pigs then it should be consumed only by pigs and not by any others. Dog food that in the market is not consumed by human.
      When John Amaratunga want pork in the parliament JHU and monks were silent and smiling!

      That speaks all about them

      • Happy Heathen

        prince
        01/25/2013 • 3:49 am

        Thanks for the additional information.

        Nonetheless, my original argument still stands as to whether Siddhartha chocked on pork, chicken or magic mushroom is not relevant to this discussion. He might as well as eaten some magic mushrooms and overdosed!

        Is crucifixion of Jeebus (intentional typo) a measurement of Christian morals?

        What is relevant is whether there are anything in the scriptures of Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam ….(enter your own) against modern morality and ethics related to contraception, gay/lesbian rights and animal rights?

        I am not advocating the supremacy of one particular religion(s) over another, but to demonstrate that religions are inherently incompatible with one another.
        Hence the myth of peaceful religious co-existence is a utopian myth just like heaven, hell and god.
        Answer: Secular constitution precluding religious corruption of laws of the land.

        However, I agree with you that Buddhists are no animal rights activists, purely judging by the appalling treatment of the animals in Sri Lanka and absence of necessary modern-day laws pertaining to animal welfare.

        • sabbe laban

          Happy Heathen

          I see how the “educated theological intelligencia” cringe before your arguments and finally resort to aimless meanderings! This is a common feature of religious bigots from the time immemorial!

          When you say that the emperor is naked they say that you don’t have the “fine taste” to enjoy the marvels of “invisible fabrics”!

          They say, “go and have a proper understanding of the book called ‘The Holy Fabric’, and don’t talk here without reading that holy book”!

          And they never answered your question, “what is the punishment for apostacy in Islam”

          Interesting, to say the least!

  • Concern

    @Happy Heathen

    Few more points for your thought

    Religion of west and middle east are Abrahamic religion, you will find poverty in countries which follow all kind of religion without exception.

    If contraception, gay/lesbian rights and animal rights are preserve in Buddhism they may freely follow Buddhism. Muslims in sri lanka has nothing to do with it.

  • Suren
  • Off the Cuff

    Dear Readers (including Dr. Suren Raghavan),

    Undoubtedly Dr. Suren Raghavan a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Buddhist Studies of the University of Oxford and teacher of politics at University of Kent-Canterbury has done his academic research before presenting this article about “Sinhala Buddhists” to the public.

    Lanka’s population is 20,263,723 and 15,173,820 of them are Sinhalese.
    There are 14,222,844 Buddhists, 2,554,606 Hindus, 1,967,227 Muslims and 1,509,606 Christians.

    Dr Suren states that “It is statically true that the Muslims in Lanka have grown, numerically, economically and to a great extend politically”.

    I agree with him, yes the Muslims have grown in stature.
    But how did they grow? Was it by Trading with the Hindus, Christians and Muslims to the exclusion of the Buddhists?

    Dr Suren further states “However, why should such growth be an actual or perceived threat to Sinhala Buddhism?”

    I am a Buddhist and a Sinhalese but not a “Sinhala Buddhists” because Buddhism has no ethnic owner, though some radicals amongst the Sanga and the laypeople say so.

    Dr Suren’s statement begs the question, Does these Radicals form the MAJORITY, amongst the 14.2 million+ Buddhists?

    Has Dr. Suren Raghavan answered that question? I don’t think so.
    I believe he has deftly sidestepped that question in his Zeal to portray the 14.2 million Buddhists as “Sinhala Buddhists”, the Radicals.

    However he cunningly posses a secondary question.

    “What (in)actions of the wider Muslim community are generating such ontological fears in Sinhala mind especially as the Sangha interpreted them?”

    Dr Suren has graduated from the “Sinhala Buddhist” radicals to an ALL encompassing Sinhala Population by dropping the Buddhist part from his “Sinhala Buddhists” and projects the 15,173,820 Sinhalese as RADICALS.

    He has also enlarged and widened his observations from the BBS radicals, to encompass the Sangha, which is the TOTALITY of the Buddhist clergy.

    What an educated and responsible person should do, is to create public opinion against ALL Radicalism and not use the actions of some radicals to vilify and incite religious and racial hatred. Vilifying 14.22 million Buddhists or 15.17 million Sinhalese would not create a just society.

    Those who engage in this type of vilification should ponder what would happen If all this unjust vilification succeeds in triggering a defense mechanism from either the 14.22 million Buddhists or the 15.17 million Sinhalese and they act as a unit to shun all economic activity with the rest.

    • dingiri

      I dont think Dr. Raghavan is vilifying Sinhalese or Buddhists here. To call this a “Vilification” is going way over the top. Until there is a proper survey done It is difficult to say what proportion of the Sinhala population support the BBS in its campaign. But estimates can be made from the e-mails one gets and facebook stati one sees from one’s own group of friends and relatives. And I must say the numbers certainly are not insignificant.

      One cant also claim he is tarring the whole Buddhist establishment with the same brush when there hasnt even been a whimper of opposition from the Mahanayakas and other prominent clergy. The priests in my own local temple I can vouch are 100% honarable and respectable. But once after the antics of the Dambulla priest I ventured the question “But Hamudurewane, wouldnt it be a good idea for the Maynayakas to publicly issue a statement distancing themselves from this priest?” To which he shyly replied. “But we should look at their side of the story too. Moslems are breeding like rabbits and taking over the town centres. Soon they will outnumber us.. ” He is too harmless a priest to get into an argument with so I decided to leave it there. But what he said I believe is representative of what a lot of people believe. So if Suren implied that there was widespread support for the BBS (if he ever did) I think he may not be too far off the mark.

      • Gamarala

        I agree with Dingiri. There is plenty of evidence that these sentiments are not limited to a minority faction, but silently agreed with by a majority. It’s history repeating itself, and to our shame, it’s not even 20 years since ’83.

        The situation in ’83 was the same – with people making excuses to this day that it was caused by govt. stooges, a minority of extremists etc. etc. Such self delusion doesn’t reflect documented history nor living memory. Yes, it may have been a minority that actively harmed Tamil people, and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact. The reality was that anti-Tamil sentiments pervaded society, overtly or covertly, and this was the bedrock on which extremists flourished.

        If a repeat of this is to be avoided, it is best to face reality and realize that anti-muslim sentiments are just as pervasive. Dismissing these elements as the “fringe” is to set the stage for the belated realisation that the “fringe” thrives on the sentiments of a majority. But as usual – that realisation may dawn too late, if at all – and the horse would have already bolted the stable.

        • Gamarala

          My apologies – elementary mathematics eludes me – please make that 30 years since ’83, not 20.

      • Off the Cuff

        Dear Dingiri,

        You say “I dont think Dr. Raghavan is vilifying Sinhalese or Buddhists here. To call this a “Vilification” is going way over the top”

        I respect your views but you and I are not in a position to read Dr Suren Raghavan’s mind. What either of us could do is to analyse what he has written. I don’t see that you have done that. If you find an error in my analysis I would be very grateful if you could point it out, instead of presenting a view based on your attempt at mind reading. That just does not suffice. The only person who can clarify it, is Suren himself. So far, he has not responded to anyone.

        Dr Raghavan is not a simpleton. He is a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Buddhist Studies of the University of Oxford. Hence he is writing from a position of intellectual authority and as an expert on Buddhism. Ask yourself the question, would he have written such an article, in a Peer Reviewed journal?

        Hence, I believe Dr Raghavan is fishing in troubled waters and is attempting to vilify both the Sinhalese and the Buddhists. He is trying to incite majority sentiment for purposes best known to him.

        I refrained from going deeper into what he has written, pending Dr Raghavan’s reply. I believe he is vilifying the Buddhists and if you want to defend him you need to prove he is not, by referring to his writings and Only his writings.

        BTW, I am not a Sinhala Buddhist. I am a Buddhist and a Sinhalese. The first is by choice and the second is by Karma. Are you a Sinhala Buddhist? I don’t think so but please correct me if I am wrong.

        You say “Until there is a proper survey done It is difficult to say what proportion of the Sinhala population support the BBS in its campaign”

        Exactly, that is why Suren is out of order.
        But strangely, you accept what he says.
        He is making a statement without supporting evidence.

        You say “But estimates can be made from the e-mails one gets and facebook stati one sees from one’s own group of friends and relatives. And I must say the numbers certainly are not insignificant.”

        Dingiri, I am sorry to say that you are way out of touch. Emails and Facebook cannot be used to judge the thinking of a 15 million population, the overwhelming majority of which, have no access or knowledge of either. Your circle of friends may be having those radical views but mine don’t. The numbers you mention are just a drop in the ocean of 15 million. So how can that be significant?

        You forget an important point I raised.
        The Muslims cannot prosper without the support of either the Buddhists or the Sinhalese. But as Suren himself has observed, Muslims have prospered. They still do.

        If either the MAJORITY of Buddhists or Sinhalese hate the Muslims so much, how do you explain the continued Prosperity of the Muslims?
        How do you explain Muslims being elected from Sinhala and Buddhist majority areas? How do you explain Muslims being educated in Buddhist Temples or Pirivenas?

        Imthiaz Bakeer Markar, a prominent Muslim politician was educated in a Buddhist Temple and speaks faultless Sinhala (much better Sinhala than most Sinhalese).

        You say “The priests in my own local temple I can vouch are 100% honarable and respectable. But once after the antics of the Dambulla priest I ventured the question “But Hamudurewane, wouldnt it be a good idea for the Maynayakas to publicly issue a statement distancing themselves from this priest?” To which he shyly replied. “But we should look at their side of the story too. Moslems are breeding like rabbits and taking over the town centres. Soon they will outnumber us.. ” “

        Buddhists in 1881 was 61.53% of the population and the Muslims 7.17%
        Buddhists in 2012 are 70.19% and Muslims 9.71%
        How soon would you estimate the Muslims will outnumber the Buddhists?

        You say “He is too harmless a priest to get into an argument with so I decided to leave it there.“

        Judging from what you said, your temple priest is anything but harmless. I believe you should have argued with him and changed his uneducated opinion. I am sorry that you did not challenge his views. As a Buddhist you should have, as Moha (Ignorance) is identified as one of the three Primary causes of all evil (the other two being Attachment and Aversion). What this priest has said about the Muslims is similar to what Dr Raghavan has said about the Buddhists and Sinhalese.
        Baseless.

        You say “So if Suren implied that there was widespread support for the BBS (if he ever did) I think he may not be too far off the mark.”

        The above is an understatement.
        Suren did not Imply, he stated so unequivocally.

        What feeds this type of extremism when Sinhala racist parties such as the Bhumiputhras could not establish a foothold amongst the Sinhalese? Perhaps the following statement from the Head of the Catholic church in Sri Lanka would be a pointer.

        In a statement published November 4, Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, head of the Catholic Church in the country, accused what he called “American fundamentalist churches” of converting large numbers of Buddhists and Catholics through inducements. In his statement, the Cardinal called upon the government to control the spread of these churches. The NCEASL wrote to the Cardinal requesting an opportunity to discuss these issues, but received a response declining the invitation.

        After reading Dr Suren Raghavan’s article I looked at the BBS website. Their vision and mission statements

        Vision deals with protecting Buddhism while safeguarding the Rights of other religions.

        Mission deals more or less with ensuring the status of Buddhism in Lanka according to the Constitution of SL.

        They describe 12 goals. All of them deals with developing a Buddhist society (both lay and clergy). The twelfth goal is to counter what Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith has identified as a threat to Catholics and Buddhists.

        I believe that the BBS have radical and fundamentalist views. The repeated mention of Ethnicity in the same breath as Buddhism goes against the teachings of Buddhism. This article by Suren Raghavan is the type of rhetoric that will feed this fundamentalism. But this fundamentalism did not appear overnight. It is a defence mechanism triggered by growing Religious Fundamentalism amongst other religious groups.

        The danger is that, as BBS themselves point out, they have a very potent network that can reach the masses. This is not about social networks such as Facebook, Twitter etc. But face to face grass roots contact with the 14.2 million Buddhist population on a daily basis (funerals, Alms givings, Bana preaching etc). A former politician understood this power and used it to come to power and we had a 30 year war triggered by a language issue as a result. The JHU was able to harness a part of this power but today it has waned. The BBS may be a different kettle of fish. This continued unjust vilification can be used by the BBS to polarise the population. I hope that the dangers of confrontation are understood by all.

        Gamarala,

        You say “The situation in ’83 was the same – with people making excuses to this day that it was caused by govt. stooges, a minority of extremists etc. etc. Such self delusion doesn’t reflect documented history nor living memory. Yes, it may have been a minority that actively harmed Tamil people, and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact”

        In Kelaniya, Industries Minister Cyril Mathew’s gangs were identified as the ones at work. The General Secretary of the government “union” the Jathika Sevaka Sangamaya (J.S.S.) was identified as the leader of gangs which wrought destruction and death all over Colombo and especially in Wellawatte, where as many as ten houses a street were destroyed. A particular U.N.P. municipal councillor of the Dehiwela-Mount Lavinia Municipality led gangs in Mount Lavinia. In the Pettah (the bazaar area, where 442 shops were destroyed and murders were committed) the commander was the son of Aloysius Mudalali, the Prime Minister’s right-hand man. And so on. Thugs who worked regularly for the leaders of the U.N.P., the Ministers of State and Party Headquarters, and in some cases uniformed military personnel and police, were seen leading the attack. They used vehicles of the Sri Lanka Transport Board (Minister in charge, M. H. Mohammed) and other government departments and state corporations. Trucks of the Ceylon Petroleum Corporation’s Oil Refinery came from many miles away bringing the men who destroyed so much of Wellawatte. There is much other evidence of this sort. In view of the quasi-governmental nature of the “action,” the killings that took place may have been difficult for the eye-witnesses to resist … But in the neighbourhoods, after the initial shock, Sinhalese and Burghers organised themselves and kept off the gangs who had been sent to burn and kill. (“Sri Lanka: The Holocaust and After,” by L. Piyadasa, Marram Books, London (1984).)

        Thank you for your scholarship.

        • Gamarala

          Off the cuff,

          Among the causal factors that S.J. Tambiah identified for the ’83 riots, you have mentioned one factor – organized mob violence. But that causal factor that guys like you prefer to ignore, is the following: “An increasing populism and chauvinism among the urban masses at large, who were attracted to a ‘millenarian politicized Buddhism, and a dangerously simplified ‘racism’ that both defined for them an explosive nationalist identity and provided a heady stimulant for aggressive action against the ‘enemies’ of the Sinhalese” (S. J. Tambiah, 1986. Sri Lanka: Ethnic Fatricide and the Dismantling of Democracy, Chicago, University of Chicago Press. p. 34)
          In other words – the racism that pervaded society, which provided the background for govt. incited mobs.

          The same situation occurred in ’58, and has been a recurring reason ever since Dharamapala, Olcott and Blavatsky unleashed militant Buddhism.

          Bottomline – my point stands – it is the spread of racist sentiments in society, which enables other forms of extremism, be it mob violence, organized gangs, or these days, the BBS, to flourish.

          • Off the Cuff

            Gamarala,

            When you stated “I agree with Dingiri. There is plenty of evidence that these sentiments are not limited to a minority faction, but silently agreed with by a majority” you subscribed to what Dingiri stated.

            My post answered Dingiri’s queries and you have left it untouched. The discussion was about Muslims but you want to change it to one about Tamils.

            What I wanted to demolish was the following Lowly Comment from you, belittling the selfless acts of brave Sinhalese who risked their own Life, the lives of their wives and children and their properties to save, protect and feed their Tamil neighbours, Friends and Colleagues for days and weeks when even the act of buying unusual quantities of bread to feed the Tamils who were given refuge, was a life threatening risk. I would suggest that you either ask
            Dr Rajasingham Narendran (he is an ethnic Tamil who experienced mob violence) or read what he has written about his own experiences of how the Sinhalese acted when he and his family was persecuted by mobs. The Burghers too acted selflessly while the Muslims could not, due to their Tamil accent.

            You wrote “…….. and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact.”

            Apparently you have never experienced the stress and dangers of acting against mob violence. What were you doing when the Tamils were being attacked? Hiding under a bed? Talk is cheap. Cowards get exposed when they have to Walk the Talk.

            The quotation I provided is used by the University Teachers for Human Rights (Jaffna) (UTHR(J)) within their own reports and UTHR(J) are also ethnic Tamils. Have your source, S.J. Tambia, subscribed to your position that a FEW Sinhalese driven by GUILT “saved” Tamils from persecution after the fact?

            If so that goes counter to what UTHR(J), Dr Rajasingham Narendran and L. Piyadasa (the author of the quote) subscribes to. In which case S.J. Tambia is guilty of lying.

            I give below without comment extracts from authors. James D. Fearon and David D. Laitin Stanford University.

            In 1949, when the newly independent government of Sri Lanka created the Gal Oya Development Board, for the purpose of settling landless peasants into this fertile area of the Eastern Province. At first, most of the migration was by Tamils and Muslims from poorer areas of the province. But then came a group of “Kandyan” Sinhalese villagers from the Central Province, and then mostly Sinhalese from other provinces. These Sinhalese received the better land (Tambiah 1996, 83-94).

            The migration of Sinhalese into the Eastern Province activated new ethnic entrepreneurs among the Tamils. The sense of demographic threat combined with the fruits of modernity being grasped by the migrants enraged the autochthonous Tamils. So, in the aftermath of the Sinhala-only riot in Colombo in 1956 (in which there were 87 injuries but no deaths), the rioting spread to Eastern Province. In Batticaloa and Gal Oya, somewhere between 20 and 200 were killed. Prior to the June 11, 1956 riot, when the Official Language Act was still being debated, a Tamil burned a Sinhalese shop, and the shop owner shot three Tamils who were watching the shop burn. Tamils then went to the Batticaloa-Amparai road and stoned Gal Oya Board trucks. One of the truck drivers went to Amparai and reported that a Sinhalese girl had been raped by Tamils. This rumor was sufficient to induce general assaults on Tamils in Amparai. That night there were assaults by members of both groups against the other. The next day a rumor spread that a Tamil army was moving into the area, and this created a panic. By the third day, Tamil colonists in Gal Oya headed back to their home villages, and returned in large numbers with guns. In Tambiah’s reports of these riots, he notes that through it all the police force was ineffective, in large part because its members were afraid of intervening into the mobs (Tambiah 1996, 83-94).

            Under demographic challenge, protest groups, parties, and self-protection (or provocation)militias began to form. In the Eastern Province, from the early periods of Sinhalese settlement, violence occurred in those divisions where Tamil-speaking people are in the majority and where Sinhalese settlements were established by the government or proposed by the government to be established. Areas that had formerly been Sinhala majority were largely free of violence.

            In the mixed population areas of the Eastern Province, riots, assaults and looting became the stuff of everyday life. Participating in these violent activities were Tamil irrigation workers, construction workers and truck drivers, along with IRC’s (Island Reconvicted Criminals). Tambiah notes that they might not have been directly concerned with the language issue; nor were they dispossessed of land, as these groups were relatively transient (Tambiah 1996, 83-94). These were merely violent incidents that are part of complex multiethnic space, and were complementary to the actions against settlers by outraged autochthonous populations.

          • Gamarala

            Off the cuff,

            I am not inclined to argue against strawman accounts of what I’ve said or feverished speculation on what S.J. Tambiah said. If I were to adopt your puerile style of argumentation, I would have to spend the whole day here pontificating and filibustering on the “dishonesty” of transforming the sentence:
            “some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt”
            into
            “a FEW Sinhalese driven by GUILT “. Not stopping there, you’ve gone onto speculate on what it would imply if Tambiah had made that statement instead. What kind of insanity and inanity is this?

            No amount of over the top babbling on your part can hide the issues that Dingiri or I raised. Without recognizing the fact that these extremist anti-Muslim sentiments are essentially building on existing societal racism and prejudice writ large, as in the past, the problem runs the risk of worsening. You can drown that in verbiage all you like, or engage in denial and racial whitewashing, but it won’t make the facts go away.

          • Off the Cuff

            Gamarala,

            You say “I am not inclined to argue against strawman accounts of what I’ve said “

            Where is this Strawman?
            What you have said is reproduced further down, copied from your post, to ensure it is unchanged. Justify it if you can.
            I doubt you have the ability to do so.

            You say “filibustering on the “dishonesty” of transforming the sentence:
            “some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt” into “a FEW Sinhalese driven by GUILT “.

            Sorry about that. It was not intended. My mistake.
            I should have copied it from your post instead of typing it.

            But why that FALSE indignation after truncating the sentence to suit you? Are you trying to draw a Red Herring to deflect attention from the Quotation Marks you used to enclose the word SAVED?

            Are you trying to mitigate the Sarcasm with which you altered the meaning of the word saved?
            Was that insanity or inanity?

            The sentence in question should be corrected as follows

            Have your source, S.J. Tambia, subscribed to your position that SOME Sinhalese, driven by decency or guilt, “SAVED” Tamils from persecution after the fact?

            You ask “Not stopping there, you’ve gone onto speculate on what it would imply if Tambiah had made that statement instead. What kind of insanity and inanity is this?”

            Oh no, I am not asking you to speculate on what you quote from Tambiah. I am asking you to JUSTIFY your use of Tambiah to support the putrid statement you wrote (reproduced below).

            “…….., and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact”

            If you stand by your statement, Justify it, else withdraw it. This time you cannot use false indignation to hide behind.

            Your statement has been contradicted by the UTHR(J) who are Tamil, Dr Rajasingham Narendran a Tamil contributor to GV, who has experienced Mob Violence and Sinhalese magnanimity in 1983 and L. Piyadasa (the author of the quote I provided).

            I believe that statement is a Vulgar attempt at belittling the selfless acts of the many ordinary Sinhalese who risked life, limb and property, not only of themselves but of their spouses and children as well, to save Tamils in distress, from certain death, at the hands of Govt goons. As a Sinhalese, have you ever faced an enraged armed Mob in defense of distressed Tamils?

            Since you are adept at pointing fingers and belittling these brave Sinhalese, it is pertinent to ask, what you were doing to save the Tamils in distress? Did you protect the distressed Tamils by sharing your house with them? Did you keep them safe for the several days that the Goons were active and the Police inactive? Did you have to buy bread and provisions from many different bakers and shops to avoid detection of the unusual quantities that were needed to feed the distressed Tamils? Did you deliver them to safety afterwards? Were you just interested in self preservation when the armed goons came for the Tamils in your neighbourhood? Talk of course is Cheap. Cowards get exposed when they have to Walk the Talk.

            You say “No amount of over the top babbling on your part can hide the issues that Dingiri or I raised”

            Neither you or Dingiri or the author of this article have been able to address the issues I have raised. Hence who is babbling and who is not is plain to see.

            You say “Without recognizing the fact that these extremist anti-Muslim sentiments are essentially building on existing societal racism and prejudice writ large, as in the past, the problem runs the risk of worsening.“

            I believe you are delusional due to your inability to comprehend.
            Here are two extracts from my posts in this thread where I acknowledge radicalism of the BBS.

            extracts
            He has also enlarged and widened his observations from the BBS radicals, to encompass the Sangha, which is the TOTALITY of the Buddhist clergy. (01/28/2013 • 1:40 am)

            I believe that the BBS have radical and fundamentalist views. (01/31/2013 • 1:35 am)
            End extracts

            Even if your language disability caused you to miss the first, you could not have missed the direct reference made in the second, unless you were extremely myopic.

            The problem arises when you try to use the actions of a few radical fundamentalists to vilify a 15 million population (70% of the the Lankan population) without solid grounds to backup the claims. The Facts of course wont go away but you have failed to establish any facts so far.

            If the vilification that you and Suren practices goes on, the real danger is that the currently moderate majority would become radicalised as a defense mechanism against what the Head of the Catholic Church has identified. Please note that a sizable proportion of Catholics are Tamils.

            Hence if the BBS flourishes, it is because of the environment created by people like you Gamarala and Suren Raghavan.

            Note to Dingiri, I saw your post of 02/01/2013 • 6:41 pm just before I was about to post this reply. I will address it later as it is past midnight (unfortunately the time stamp on GV has no relevance to the time of release on the web).

            I have no problem with the criticism leveled at BBS. The problem arises when the BBS behaviour is projected as majority behaviour without substantiating proof.

          • Gamarala

            Off the cuff,

            According to guys like you, when Tamils become radicalized, it’s because they are inherently racist. When Sinhalese become radicalized, it’s because it’s a defense mechanism! :D

            I’m sorry my dear, your slip is showing!

            You are free to believe what you wish, including believing that sugar-coating the truth, and a “see-no-evil, hear-no-evil” selectivity to recorded facts about our history is a suitable approach to solving problems. I do not share that belief.

            My belief is that unless we as a society are mature enough to inspect a mirror held in front of us objectively, and to acknowledge the fact that tribalism is a real phenomenon in our barely post-feudal society, it will be very difficult to solve our problems. You cannot solve a problem that you do not either know, or don’t acknowledge, to exist.

            I also do not consider this tribalism to be limited to the Sinhalese (I hope that lets you heave a sigh of relief), but one that is spread out across the three main tribes – the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. I have already presented evidence for the first claim – I think your prejudice alone is sufficient evidence for the other two.

          • Off the Cuff

            Gamarala,

            Where is your argument to establish what you said before?

            Now you are talking of Tribalism.
            Is that one of the fashionable buzz words that you use to impress?
            Buzz words have no meaning unless you can prove what you say.
            Don’t you have facts to write about instead of empty rhetoric?

            Let’ look at the following statement that you made.

            You said “…….., and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact”

            By enclosing the word SAVED within quotes you used SARCASM to modify the meaning of the word completely. Hence according to you, even those who risked the lives of their Families, to Help distressed Tamils were Racists. According to you, there were no Decent Sinhalese, all of them were Racists.

            According to you, UTHR(J) and L. Piyadasa are lying when they say “after the initial shock, Sinhalese and Burghers organised themselves and kept off the gangs who had been sent to burn and kill“. According to you, Dr Rajasingham Narendran is Lying when he acknowledges the selfless Help that he and his family received from the Sinhalese.

            Who and what are we to believe?

            You and the stuff that your putrid mind cooks up or the Eye Witnesses accounts of the Bravery and selflessness of the Sinhalese? Are we to discard the unequivocal statements made by Dr Rajasingham Narendran, a victim of 1983 mob violence, about the selfless help he received from the Sinhalese, just because you wrote a Putrid sentence on GV, using pointed sarcasm by enclosing the word saved in Quotes?

            If you stand by your statement, Justify it, else withdraw it

            JUSTIFY your use of Tambiah to support the putrid statement you wrote.

            You say According to guys like you, when Tamils become radicalized, it’s because they are inherently racist. When Sinhalese become radicalized, it’s because it’s a defense mechanism!
            I’m sorry my dear, your slip is showing!

            Cardinal Malcom Ranjith, the Head of the Catholic Church in SL, was not talking about either the Sinhalese or the Tamils. He was talking about Catholics, Buddhists and the Christian Fundamentalists. I refered to what he said. But you are too fixated on the Racist Sinhalese to notice that and keep on cooking statements from thin air!

            I’m sorry my dear, it’s your tail that’s showing!

          • Gamarala

            Off the cuff,

            Another endless harangue over imagined demons. I put “saved” within quotes – not in accordance to the inferences of your fevered imagination – but to indicate the tragedy of anyone needing “saving” – something that should never have happened in the first place.

            The rest of your babbling is therefore moot – and is one part of your regular two part tune – namely.
            1. The Sinhalese are heroic and unfairly vilified – they are the real victims of “putrid canards”. You are duty bound to undo any damaging perception that will upset the “peace”.
            2. The Tamils on the other hand, have been regular villains, but unfairly seen as victims. You are beholden to rectify this misconception.

            There – cut-paste the two lines above on a regular basis instead – will save this forum some time :D

          • Off the Cuff

            Dear Gamarala,

            Changing the TUNE when Cornered and Exposed as a Racist labeling the Sinhalese Race as Racist?

            Today you say “Another endless harangue over imagined demons. I put “saved” within quotes – not in accordance to the inferences of your fevered imagination – but to indicate the tragedy of anyone needing “saving” – something that should never have happened in the first place.”

            Let me refresh your flagging memory on what you wrote.

            “The situation in ’83 was the same – with people making excuses to this day that it was caused by govt. stooges, a minority of extremists etc. etc. Such self delusion doesn’t reflect documented history nor living memory. Yes, it may have been a minority that actively harmed Tamil people, and some Sinhalese people, out of decency or guilt, “saved” Tamils from persecution – after the fact. The reality was that anti-Tamil sentiments pervaded society, overtly or covertly, and this was the bedrock on which extremists flourished.” (copied and pasted from your post of 01/30/2013 • 6:41 am )

            Please note that you have been trying to establish that the Sinhalese as a Race is Racist by nature

            You are stating that attacks on Tamils was not by a minority of extremist goons. Insinuating that ordinary Sinhalese, who are the majority, is COMPLICIT in attacking Tamils.

            You are invoking Documented History and Living Memory in support of the above. Yet you are unable to produce anything that support your contention of a Racist Sinhala Society.

            You state that Racist Sinhalese Society Overtly and Covertly caused Tamils to be attacked.
            Overtly means Openly.
            Covertly means Secretly.
            Pervades means to become diffused throughout every part of (in this case) Sinhalese Society.
            Now produce evidence for your PUTRID claim.

            Either you don’t know your English OR You are a RACIST trying to hide behind big words and wild accusations.

            After writing all that putrid stuff you are thick skinned enough to BELATEDLY claim you did not use the word SAVED, sarcastically.

            How come you did not come out with this “Explanation” in your earlier three posts date stamped 01/31/2013 • 8:38 am, 02/01/2013 • 3:20 pm and 02/02/2013 • 9:07 am ?

            Do you seriously believe all the readers here on GV are simpletons?

            Prove that the University Teachers for Human Rights (Jaffna) consisting of Ratnarajan Hoole, Daya Somasundaram, K.Sritharan and Rajani Thiranagama (All of them Ethnic Tamils) is wrong when they used the following extract from the book “Sri Lanka: The Holocaust and After,” by L. Piyadasa, Marram Books, London (1984) in their report.

            Extract
            In Kelaniya, Industries Minister Cyril Mathew’s gangs were identified as the ones at work. The General Secretary of the government “union” the Jathika Sevaka Sangamaya (J.S.S.) was identified as the leader of gangs which wrought destruction and death all over Colombo and especially in Wellawatte, where as many as ten houses a street were destroyed. A particular U.N.P. municipal councillor of the Dehiwela-Mount Lavinia Municipality led gangs in Mount Lavinia. In the Pettah (the bazaar area, where 442 shops were destroyed and murders were committed) the commander was the son of Aloysius Mudalali, the Prime Minister’s right-hand man. And so on. Thugs who worked regularly for the leaders of the U.N.P., the Ministers of State and Party Headquarters, and in some cases uniformed military personnel and police, were seen leading the attack. They used vehicles of the Sri Lanka Transport Board (Minister in charge, M. H. Mohammed) and other government departments and state corporations. Trucks of the Ceylon Petroleum Corporation’s Oil Refinery came from many miles away bringing the men who destroyed so much of Wellawatte. There is much other evidence of this sort. In view of the quasi-governmental nature of the “action,” the killings that took place may have been difficult for the eye-witnesses to resist … But in the neighbourhoods, after the initial shock, Sinhalese and Burghers organised themselves and kept off the gangs who had been sent to burn and kill.
            End extract

            Note the emphasised text.

            Does that describes the actions of a society Pervaded by Racism?

            Prove that Dr. Rajasingham Narendran, a Tamil victim of 1983 riots is a Liar, to have acknowledged on Groundviews, that he was protected by the very Sinhalese that you claim is Racist to the core.

            OK Great Man, make good on you putrid Braggadocio

            Thank you
            OTC

          • Gamarala

            Off the cuff,

            Quite right indeed :D You’ve decreed what my words mean, or what they ought to mean, and how is a mere mortal like me to disagree? With great panache, you have slain yet another straw demon, repeated your tune for the n+1 th time, so at this point I’ll leave you to the rest of your public act of logic contortion – it’s tedious but vaguely amusing.

            For the benefit of any sane readers who have bothered to stick with this farce thus far (although it does call their sanity into question) – it is not possible to prove, by any imaginable means, that 51% or above of Sinhalese people, must be racist, as Happy Heathen has suggested elsewhere. Not only is this not a relevant question – it would be impossible to prove even if it were true! The reason is the absence of mind-reading devices that would put an exact figure on this, or even a poll for which one could expect a binary answer for the question: are you a racist? It is not a binary proposition after all.

            It is however, easily possible to demonstrate that the history of Sri Lanka shows a definite majoritarian trend, again a matter which is not disputed by serious scholars, no matter how intense the tantrum Off-the-Cuff throws. The events of ’58, ’83 and of late, the extremism of the BBS, also show that the level of extremism in society is sufficiently high for this to be a definite, persistent problem. My original proposition, that “The reality was that anti-Tamil sentiments pervaded society, overtly or covertly, and this was the bedrock on which extremists flourished”, has already been argued for to the point of tedium – and there is no real response to this – other than irrelevant, word-play based arguments. I rest my case!

          • Off the Cuff

            Gamarala,

            Lost for words Gamarala?

            You are squirming back into your Straw man instead of proving what you stated? As I suspected, when called upon to put Facts on the table, you are lost for words and facts.

            You say “Quite right indeed You’ve decreed what my words mean, or what they ought to mean, and how is a mere mortal like me to disagree?”

            Are you sure you are a mere mortal?
            The English Lexicon decrees the meanings of the words we use.
            But then you seem to have other meanings for the same words that are not found in any Earthly Dictionary, perhaps you are using God’s own.
            Could you please educate us what these new meanings for Overt, Covert and Pervade are?

            You say “it is not possible to prove, by any imaginable means, that 51% or above of Sinhalese people, must be racist,… ”

            Realisation has come too late.
            You were heehawing all this time.
            But in your case you were writing about pervading. And according to Earthly (distinct from Godly) Dictionaries that means very much more, a figure closer to 100% would be more like it. Tough ask, when you can’t even prove that 20% are Racists.

            You say “…as Happy Heathen has suggested elsewhere. Not only is this not a relevant question – it would be impossible to prove even if it were true! The reason is the absence of mind-reading devices that would put an exact figure on this, or even a poll for which one could expect a binary answer for the question: are you a racist? It is not a binary proposition after all.”

            Going Digital now?
            Dumber and Dumber with the passage of time!
            A poll would not ask such a Dumb direct question as, “Are you a Racist?”

            “It is however, easily possible to demonstrate that the history of Sri Lanka shows a definite majoritarian trend, again a matter which is not disputed by serious scholars, no matter how intense the tantrum Off-the-Cuff throws”

            Hmm … trying to migrate to a different topic?
            I love what you have written above. Especially the part wherein you try to include yourself amongst the Serious Scholars

            You say “The events of ’58, ’83 and of late, the extremism of the BBS, also show that the level of extremism in society is sufficiently high for this to be a definite, persistent problem. My original proposition, that “The reality was that anti-Tamil sentiments pervaded society, overtly or covertly, and this was the bedrock on which extremists flourished”, has already been argued for to the point of tedium – and there is no real response to this – other than irrelevant, word-play based arguments. I rest my case!”

            Back to the Hee Hawing

            Any Animal can make a statement.
            But when a Human makes a statement, especially in a Debate, supporting evidence is expected. In your case, that evidence haven’t being forthcoming even after 5 consecutive posts.
            Are we to assume you are not Human?

            You see Gamarala, you have not made a case, in order to rest it.

        • dingiri

          Dear Off the Cuff,

          We both read Dr. Raghavan’s article.
          I felt he was critical (validly) of the BBS and the Sinhala Right.
          You thought it was a vilification of all Sinhalese and Buddhists.

          Obviously our opinions differ. I cant convince you and I dont think you can convince me either.

          You have written a long post but you havent addressed my main point. IF THESE PEOPLE ARE A MINORITY, WHY IS THE MAJORITY SO SILENT? In the UK, if the English Defence League organises a rally, there will be a spontaneous anti-EDL counter rally lining the streets and hurling abuse at the racists in next to no time. Most of the anti-racists will also be white English. But where is the opposition to the BBS demos in Dambulla, Maharagama and Badulla? Where is the resistance? Who is taking them on? Where are our leaders?

          “After reading Dr Suren Raghavan’s article I looked at the BBS website. Their vision and mission statements

          Vision deals with protecting Buddhism while safeguarding the Rights of other religions.”

          It is not their words but their actions I am worried about. Demolishing mosques, publicly vilifying minorities with words like “Thambiya” and “Hambaya”, orchestrating boycots of minority businesses dont quite fit the label “protecting Buddhism while safeguarding the Rights of other religions” as far as I am concerned. But again, you may have a different opinion to me on that.

          It is also my opinion that this is a fairly recent phenomenon in Sri Lanka. Until about 2 years ago Sinhala-Moslem relations had been improving. The Sinhalese did not think twice about patronising Moslem businesses. They did not feel threatened by Moslems until quite recently, but all that is changing. I wonder if Moslem businesses will be doing as well in a few years time. Or if Moslem MPs like M.H. Mohomed will still be getting elected from predominantly Sinhala electorates.

          Social Media is a reasonably good tool to guage social opinion in the absence of a proper survey of the entire population. I wonder how you arrived at your counter conclusion that supporters of the BBS are a tiny minority without a survey. I wonder if you remember how the Groundviews “Not in my name” campaign yielded a mere 1500 signatures? Now look at the Hate sites on Facebook and see how fast they are clocking up “Likes” and you will see what I mean. There is no reason to believe that only BBS supporters have access to computers in Sri Lanka or respond to facebook campaigns.

          Also, congratulations on not knowing any Sinhalese with anti-minority views. You are indeed a lucky man.

          • Off the Cuff

            Dear Dingiri,

            You say “We both read Dr. Raghavan’s article. I felt he was critical (validly) of the BBS and the Sinhala Right. You thought it was a vilification of all Sinhalese and Buddhists”

            Dingiri, it is about what Dr Raghavan wrote not what you and I think that he wrote. Please put your assumptions away and analyse the English. Look at the sentences that I have reproduced. You have not taken the trouble to counter my analysis. Please prove me wrong.
            BTW Raghavan does not write about a ‘Sinhala Right’. He writes about the ‘Sinhala Mind’ and the ‘Sanga’.

            Please note that Suren has been and still is reading what we write. He was active on this thread addressing Podi Mahththaya on 02/01/2013 • 10:29 pm. Yet he has neglected to explain himself. What do you think of a man who does that? A man who cannot stand by what he has written. Do you believe has has facts to back up what he has written? If you do, then you are very magnanimous.

            BTW I am not writing to convince you but to put an alternate view to Suren’s for others to think about. I have not speculated about what he has written but have dissected it word by word. I have not altered or introduced new words to his writing but have analysed the English as written by him.

            Dr Suren Raghavan has failed to prove me wrong. I hope he will.

            You say “You have written a long post but you havent addressed my main point. IF THESE PEOPLE ARE A MINORITY, WHY IS THE MAJORITY SO SILENT?”

            You did not challenge your village priest for his racist remarks. Does that prove that you are a Racist?
            I do not believe you are, yet if we go by your own argument SILENCE meant that you are a racist. Do you think such an interpretation is Just? I don’t think so because being a Racist and being unable to stand up to Racism are two completely different things. You cannot use one to prove the other.

            In the population there are many people like you. People who are not racist by nature but are unable to stand up to racism (or thinks that the racism is too minor to make a fuss). The inability of these people to stand up to racism cannot be used to brand them as Racists.

            I have seen an old handbill in my father’s scrap book of a Samadhi Buddha over printed by a large cross across the eyes. Tensions had existed between some Roman Catholics bent on Proselytization and some Buddhists. Today the Head of that Church is talking about Proselytization of the Catholics and the Buddhists by the Christian fundamentalists.

            You say “In the UK, if the English Defence League organises a rally, there will be a spontaneous anti-EDL counter rally lining the streets and hurling abuse at the racists in next to no time. Most of the anti-racists will also be white English. But where is the opposition to the BBS demos in Dambulla, Maharagama and Badulla? Where is the resistance? Who is taking them on? Where are our leaders?”

            Apparently you are not living in SL now. We had drastic escalation of prices in Infant Milk foods, Gas, Kerosene, Diesel and in fact, all essential items for day to day living. The price of Garlic is so high that shop keepers are selling it by the Clove. Maldive fish is sky high at around Rs 3000 a Kilo. The poor is undoubtedly the majority in SL. It is the votes of the poor that brought the current govt to power. It is the poor that is most affected by these escalating prices. Ever wonder why there is no significant street protests against the unbearable cost of living? Ever wonder why there are no riots? Ever wonder why there are no street protest on the degrading free health service when even essential medicines are contaminated with foreign matter? At the moment there are more things that can trigger street protests than the BBS, yet there is nothing significant happening.

            Does that prove that the people approve the overnight price hikes?

            You say “It is not their words but their actions I am worried about. Demolishing mosques, publicly vilifying minorities with words like “Thambiya” and “Hambaya”, orchestrating boycots of minority businesses dont quite fit the label “protecting Buddhism while safeguarding the Rights of other religions” as far as I am concerned. But again, you may have a different opinion to me on that”

            I am worried about that too.
            But I am more worried when that is made an excuse of to vilify 70% of the population.

            You say “It is also my opinion that this is a fairly recent phenomenon in Sri Lanka. Until about 2 years ago Sinhala-Moslem relations had been improving. The Sinhalese did not think twice about patronising Moslem businesses”

            So today we are 2 years into the time that you have identified as a changed behaviour towards the Muslims. Have you visited any large Muslim establishment lately, like the Glitz? Noticed the crowds? Were they predominantly Muslim? I see a predominance of Sinhalese and Buddhists. You see Dingiri, this is the reality, not the deception practiced by some people who have ulterior motives in trying to portray the totality of Buddhists and the Sinhalese as racist.

            I am not aware that the BBS is calling for a boycott of Muslim businesses. They have not asked the Buddhists to stop visiting the hardware store or the textile shop or the Fish monger etc on the basis of ethnicity. There was no such thing even at the height of Tamil terrorism. Can you please direct me to your source?

            The BBS is talking about Halal Certification. They say currently about 40 manufacturers pay annually Rs 175,000 each, yielding 7million annually. They ask why Halal certification is needed for Tea and similar vegetarian products and so on. They ask whether Biscuits also need Halal certification. They see it as an indirect taxation of the non Muslims. They ask why the non Muslims have to pay to support Islam. The BBS says that if the products the Buddhists buy increases in cost of manufacture due to Halal certification then the best counter to that is to boycott Halal certified products and let the manufacturer chose between losing Buddhist Patronage or Muslim Patronage.

            From the manufacturers point of view, the rationale for obtaining Halal certification is to sell the products to Muslims. From the BBS point of view such increase would lead to increase in the retail price for the Buddhists.

            These are arguments that will flourish when the environment is conducive to that. Hence all responsible persons should make sure that attempts to establish such an environment is nipped in the bud. UNJUST Vilification of the Buddhists will establish such an environment.

            You say “ They did not feel threatened by Moslems until quite recently, but all that is changing. I wonder if Moslem businesses will be doing as well in a few years time.

            So far there is no proof of a generalised feeling of threat. At the moment you are speculating just like Raghavan.

            You say “Or if Moslem MPs like M.H. Mohomed will still be getting elected from predominantly Sinhala electorates”

            The state of affairs today is that Muslims get elected from Sinhala Majority Areas. This is PROOF that the racism alleged does not pervade the CURRENT majority thinking. About the future, you are speculating, because you cannot establish the background using the present. That is the same predicament that Suren Raghavan finds himself in.

            You say “Social Media is a reasonably good tool to guage social opinion in the absence of a proper survey of the entire population”

            Not in Sri Lanka it is not.
            Whose opinion are you gauging?
            Of the few who has access to the Internet or the many who do not?

            You ask “I wonder how you arrived at your counter conclusion that supporters of the BBS are a tiny minority without a survey ………. Now look at the Hate sites on Facebook and see how fast they are clocking up “Likes” and you will see what I mean.”

            Dingiri, you are obviously not a supporter of BBS and neither am I.
            Is there anything to prevent you or me from going to the BBS website and feigning support?
            Is there anything that prevents you or me from posting a Hate Comment?
            Is there anything that prevents you or me clocking MULTIPLE likes on Face book?

            Anyone can do what you and I can do due the limitation of technology in Facebook.
            This is like the voting in the annual School boy cricketer of the year contest.
            A single person can by 10,000 papers and send 10,000 votes.
            That does not gauge the popularity of the cricketer.
            So please don’t get deceived by it.

            You say “I wonder if you remember how the Groundviews “Not in my name” campaign yielded a mere 1500 signatures?”

            Yes I remember. I have already answered you above.
            What numbers where you expecting?
            How many different people do you see contributing to GV?
            Don’t read too much into what you see on the hit counter on the web.

            You say “There is no reason to believe that only BBS supporters have access to computers in Sri Lanka or respond to facebook campaigns”

            Did I write this?
            I am sure you are making a mistake, probably inadvertently.

            This is what I wrote

            Emails and Facebook cannot be used to judge the thinking of a 15 million population, the overwhelming majority of which, have no access or knowledge of either. Your circle of friends may be having those radical views but mine don’t. The numbers you mention are just a drop in the ocean of 15 million. So how can that be significant?

            Please do not misconstrue what I write.

            You say “Also, congratulations on not knowing any Sinhalese with anti-minority views. You are indeed a lucky man”

            Oops there you go again.
            We were talking about friends not any Sinhalese.
            Yes as per Buddhist text, I believe having non racist friends is my fortune. I am fortunate that the feet of my friends are firmly planted on Sri Lankan soil.

  • Roshan Perera

    Lost LTTE elements are taking every opportunity. This time a so called Dr. Suren. Not surprising.

  • Prabha

    If everyone has equal-rights and If natural law of survival governs the existence of social animals. It is not strange or wrong what has happened here.

    Terrorist organization surveys (worldwide) show Islamic terrorist groups have contributed to the highest percentage out of all armed terrorist groups.

    Suren or whoever can express views but he or his masters cannot change Sri Lanka.

    • Ranjith

      Face book campaign is not against Buddhist, its against Muslims, so we know well who is terrorizing sri lanka with the help of foreign element for financial gains.

      http://www.nation.lk/edition/latest-top-stories/item/15146-extremist-groups-back-racism.html

      • dingiri

        According to this fatuous news item in the Naion.

        “…..Sources declined to divulge the names of the two extremists groups but added that one of them was receiving foreign assistance to incite communal violence in Sri Lanka after LTTE terrorism was crushed and peace restored. “Intelligence authorities have reported that foreign hands were working to destabilize Sri Lanka inciting communal violence to bring the government into disrepute”, claimed a top Defense official…..”

        Too cowardly to name the “extremist groups”
        Too cowardly to name the “foreign hand”
        Not even the name of the “top defence official”

        All we are told is this is all a foreign conspiracy to bring our blameless government into disrepute. The same government that is yet to release statement unequivocally condemning these racists!

        If the leaders of the BBS were receiving money from foreign governments to destabilse Sri Lanka, surely it would be tantamount to espionage, sabotage or even treason which carry severe penalties? Why then have they not been arrested and charged with any of these offences? Does the Nation really believe the level of intelligence of their readers to be so low as to believe this piece of govt propaganda?

        • Ranjith

          well said dingiri

          not only this, if such exist no doubt that even government MPs involved in these, because all these campaign were done in the presence of police and no action had been taken against breaching the law and order.

          an “equal right group” members were tried to arrest by police when pointing out these points and they were came under attack by mobs.

          so don’t you feel something fishy here?

  • Podi Mahaththaya

    “Half a Dozen misguided , designing villains ……have been trying to pose as leaders of Buddhists . Had it not been for this encouragement , these disturbances would never have occurred ….. the proprietary peasant villagers ….. have been deluded into this trap for the personal aggrandizement of a few who are NOBODIES , but who hope to make SOMEBODIES of themselves by such disgraceful tactics.”
    - S.C Obeysekere – On the Sinhalese Leaders , Including the Senanayake Brothers , Jailed in 1915 for allegedly instigating Ant- Muslim Rioting ( Debates in the Legislative Council , 1913 – 16 ) 11 August 1915 .

    • Suren

      Dear Podi Mahaththaya,
      Thank you
      Your quotation is historical
      Please I would like to read the full report
      Is this from Hansard or from a newspaper in 1915?
      Please give me the source for my future research work

      I thank you

      Suren

  • zee

    Can some body tell me why when I type odubalasena.com it takes me to a Christian site?