http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/EGUA-7ZGQCB?OpenDocument

Do you just want to start a round 2 and get a bunch of amateurs to obliterate that report again?

“The company stated that its technical representative and forensic multimedia analyst Jeff Spivak had successfully conducted the “forensic video processing and analysis” of the recording said to have been obtained using a cell phone. The Video Investigator software used for the analysis was developed by Cognitech in 1988. The company claims its latest software package, consisting of a trio of programs including Video Investigator, to be “the most scientifically advanced and the only comprehensive forensic video processing and 3D analysis software in the world.” In a phone interview with SLNN, a company official confirmed that it can state with 100 percent certainty that the video is authentic.”

I found it here, they claim it is the original unedited video footage http://www.australiantamilcongress.com/videodj.3gp
But it may not be the same video analyzed by Alston’s experts.

Alston should have annexed the Video he used as an appendix to his report but he has not

“I assumed Spivac’s Meta Data would apply to the video file I found (please see an earlier post on this thread)”

Where did you find that file? What was the website?

Thanks for the warning. You need not worry dear, I do prepare my self daily for the impending sadistic violence that is going to engulf us, by engaging in activities such as chasing bunnies with meat knives and slitting their throats, repeatedly watching the SAW series, brutally kicking helpless grannies on the street, etc.

Either way I was taught that when the devil knocks on my door, to let him into my own hell. I think this sort of attitude is going to be the most useful in surviving in today’s sadistic Sri Lanka! I personally don’t believe in the head down and mouth shut approach. I appreciate your concern how ever, very sweet of you.

I just hope you’re overseas and you don’t have to endure what we’re going through! It’s psychologically draining & damaging… We’re becoming monsters before our own eyes.. :-S

[disclaimer: this post may contain sarcasm]

Disproof of a proposition by showing that it leads to absurd or untenable conclusions – Reductio ad Absurdum

You did not show anything because you can’t.

Looks like the SUN GOD Himself is calling you a fraud

The Sun is up
The shadows are short
The estimated time is +/- 2 hours of Noon, Sri Lanka time (on a cursory examination).

This corresponds to the Time in the Meta Data.
Blows the purported Authenticity Sky High !!!

If we were having a verbal debate I would say you are Tongue Tied

As it is you are having Writer’s Cramp

As I said earlier Madam, your Tiger Tail is showing

My reply to your posts 1,2, 3, 4, 5,6, 7 -Reductio ad Absurdum

“My kids complain that I am spending too much time writing here. On that note I will conclude my postings in this thread.”

Time will be spent even if you stop posting on this thread and start posting on another. I hope you will not be leaving GV for good due to lack of time. Please don’t let “Observer” and “Wijayapala” do that to you.

Refers to your post of January 15, 2010 @ 8:07 am

CH4 version is edited for broadcast. I needed the identical version analyzed by Spivac (Alston’s expert) for visual comparison. Its not posted on the UN website used by Alston to post his reports. It should have been an annex to his report.

I assumed Spivac’s Meta Data would apply to the video file I found (please see an earlier post on this thread).

It is possible to estimate the time with some accuracy assuming the coded date as correct. It involves working backwards after establishing the Sun’s arc of travel on that day. If the date assumption gives a closer match to the Time encoded the probabality of the date also being correct would be higher.

Only a fool will ask questions without knowing the background

Look at the Meta Data given by Spivac

Encoded date: UTC 2009-07-18 09:06:47
Tagged date: UTC 2009-07-18 09:06:47

This is not investigated at ALL.

Instead, EXCUSES are trotted out by Alston and Spivac to belittle the SIGNIFICANCE of the encoded Time

The EVIDENCE of the TIME is PLAINLY visible in the Video but your so called experts and Alston missed it, as their PRECONCEIVED INTENT did not allow them to see the TRUTH.

My estimate without the benefit of sophisticated tools is +/- 2 hours of NOON (SL TIME). The upper limit of 08:30 UTC closely correlates with the Meta Data. This can be easily refined by using the appropriate tools and the methodology that I described in an earlier post.

Using the SUN to estimate time is known to Forensics.
Why then did ALL the so called IMPARTIAL INDIPENDANT EXPERTS overlook this simple fact?

Adding insult to injury Alston and Spivac even include SPECULATIVE EXCUSES to explain this GLARING DISCREPANCY.

The question is why?

You further state
“Can we use common sense to reach the same conclusions as with ballistic analysis? Mental gymnastics. Maybe you chaps can.”
Unquote

If BALLISTICS can estimate the time of day, it would indeed be Mental Gymnastics.

What I used is SCIENCE. The knowledge about how the SUN traverses the sky and the knowledge that objects cast a shadow when in the Sun.

Obviously ALL the experts that you try to put on a pedestal don’t seem to have that knowledge.

Unfortunately you obviously don’t have the common sense to read the thread before making DEROGATORY remarks.

Just like the Channel 4 version, mate. Bunch of LTTE guys with too much time on their hands, desperate to make “execution videos.” Wait for the release of the uncut version. Philip Alston and some Norwegian guy having sambar dinner with the actors.

“I then searched the web for the video named by Jeff Spivack and found a similarly named video on a LTTE leaning Tamil web site.”

Is it different from the Channel 4 version? Does it show the date and time?

The claims, vehemently denied by the Sri Lankan Government, added to a lengthy list of war crimes

allegations against it.

The video of the alleged battlefield executions, which was aired on Channel 4 in August, shows a naked

man, bound and blindfolded, being made to kneel.

Another man, dressed in what appears to be Sri Lankan army uniform, approaches from behind and shoots

him in the head at point-blank range. “It’s like he jumped,” the executor laughs. The camera then pans

to show eight similarly bound corpses.

An analysis for The Times by Grant Fredericks, an independent forensic video specialist who is also an

instructor at the FBI National Academy, suggests otherwise. He found no evidence of digital

manipulation, editing or any other special effects. However, subtle details consistent with a real

shooting, such as a discharge of gas from the barrel of the weapon used, were visible.

“This level of subtle detail cannot be virtually reproduced. This is clearly an original recording,”

said Mr Fredericks, who was previously the head of the Vancouver police forensic video unit in Canada.

There was also strong evidence to rule out the use of actors. “Even if the weapons fired blanks, the

barrel is so close to the head of the ‘actors’ that the gas discharge alone leaves the weapon with such

force it would likely cause serious injury or death,” Mr Fredericks said.

The reactions of those executed was consistent with reality, he added. “The victims do not lunge forward

. . . [they] fall backward in a very realistic reaction, unlike what is normally depicted in the

movies.”

In Mr Fredericks’s opinion “the injury to the head of the second victim and the oozing liquid from that

injury cannot be reproduced realistically without editing cuts, camera angle changes and special

effects. No [errors] exist anywhere in any of the images that support a technical fabrication of the

events depicted,” he said.

The Sri Lankan Government said in a statement in September that the footage was “done with a

sophisticated video camera, dubbed to give the gunshot effect and transferred to a mobile phone.”

Mr Fredericks’s research showed that code embedded in the footage appeared to match with software used

in Nokia mobile phones.” He said: “The recording is completely consistent with a cell phone video

recording and there are no signs of editing or alterations.”

I do not claim to possess knowledge in regards to this matter. That is why I defer to the experts. And, it is an issue beyond common sense. Alston’s experts performed ballistic analysis as part of their investigation. Can we use common sense to reach the same conclusions as with ballistic analysis? Mental gymnastics. Maybe you chaps can.

Spoken like a “White Sahib” but we are no longer a Colony Sir.

Assume that I am a simpleton.

If you or Alston or the Experts can’t give clear logical answers to questions from a simpleton what good are YOUR qualifications?

Read their reports (there are links on this thread) before asking idiotic questions.

You are welcome to refer my comments to Alston (there are many of them on this thread) probabably he might condescend to enlighten ALL of us here at Groundviews.

This is a response to yours of January 15, 2010 @ 4:36 pm

My point is that your questions are irrelevant to starting an investigation.
Alston only said that it “appears authentic” and by any fair assessment by any neutral person, that is sufficient to start an investigation.

I once met a beautiful lady that “appeared authentic” in Thailand. But she was a lady boy. Unfortunate souls would have gone ahead and slept with her to find that out the hard way. Get real!

You and others questioning the video’s authenticity ignore the stark fact that the GoSL imposed a total blackout in the war zone populated with hundreds of thousands of civilians, denying access even to the ICRC, the UN and impartial news reporters.

War is not a sports game to give coverage. I don’t remember seeing US military juggernaut vs. Iraqi civilians on ESPN all access pass.
I believe forward operations of any offensive is purposely top secret for obvious reasons. Get real!

When an armed force with a well-known history of committing grave atrocities against civilians, as documented by several neutral human rights organizations….

So far I’m thinking LTTE…. Why didn’t UN start investigating LTTE for war crimes? Ooops, our bad, we didn’t leave anyone to be investigated… No regrets!

Why is that hard for you to understand? Indeed, you and others make an implicit argument that as long as GoSL can suppress all evidence of atrocities it committed during the war, any leaking evidence is not believable and therefore there can’t be any investigations.

What leaked evidence? Haven’t seen any to date.

That argument, far from exculpating the GoSL, reinforces the case that in ordering a total blackout and in expelling ICRC and UN staff, the GoSL had a clear intent to commit war crimes.

Yes government had the foresight to see that in a last ditch attempt LTTE would kidnap all the aid workers creating another headache. SLA’s LTTE steam roller wasn’t ready for that sort of non sense.

Also I would like to point out had the LTTE surrendered at many times the GoSL offered opportunity to surrender, they would be alive today. They also did say.. OR BE KILLED!

As such, no evidence needs to be 100% proven for an investigation to start. High likelihood of authenticity is more than sufficient.

When there are also significant details suggesting the video is fake there is absolutely no reason to waste time!

May I ask, what are your qualifications in comparison to the three independent experts chosen by Philip Alston to examine the video? Are you suggesting the experts overlooked what you suggested? Have you written to these experts also and got no reply?

Post 7 Continued from post 6

Estimated Distance of Muzzle to Camera
Expert from Tamil’s Against Genocide – 12 feet away from the muzzle
Brigadier Samarasinghe – 3 to 5 meters from weapon
Alstons’ Spivac – Agrees with Samarasinghe and uses 3 meters for his tests

This means that the BODY of the 2nd shooter is closer to the camera and would be around 9 feet from the camera with a sideways shooting position

This is in response to your two posts below

January 14, 2010 @ 10:28 pm
January 14, 2010 @ 10:22 pm

I have already responded to Your Post of January 13, 2010 @ 3:34 pm

here (http://www.groundviews.org/2009/08/29/a-video-of-shame-and-outrage-responses-positions-and-clarifications/comment-page-2/#comment-13108)

But you have kept mum, why?

I had to post this response in 7 parts as I had difficulty in posting the complete comment in one post.

Post 6 Continued from post 5

My estimate of time is 2 pm and that corresponds to the Meta Data which makes the SPECULATIVE theory of an ALTERED TIME on the phone improbable.

If the TIME was unaltered the chances are that the DATE too is UNALTERED.

Where does that place this video?

This is what Spivac states
Quote
it is possible that the individual who used the device to record these events may have deliberately altered the time and date settings
Unquote

This is PLAIN SPECULATION and has no place in a Technical report.

Why was TIME not investigated?
He refers specifically to the “TIME”.
Yet he does not investigate it and ignores very visible evidence of Time, why?

Were these experts IGNORANT of estimating time using the SUN?

Continued in post 7