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		<title>By: kari de silva</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7891</link>
		<dc:creator>kari de silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One who gives will get the same. Time will tell.</description>
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		<title>By: manjula</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let those who want to stay - stay. Let those who want to leave - leave.

Prisons have toilet facilities, drinking water, meals, doctors and even gyms and televisions.

But I doubt anyone will want to move into a prison by choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let those who want to stay &#8211; stay. Let those who want to leave &#8211; leave.</p>
<p>Prisons have toilet facilities, drinking water, meals, doctors and even gyms and televisions.</p>
<p>But I doubt anyone will want to move into a prison by choice.</p>
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		<title>By: George Gunasekera</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Gunasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry for the terrible miscalculation above.</description>
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		<title>By: George Gunasekera</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7384</link>
		<dc:creator>George Gunasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a &#039;daily news&#039; paper report on the 8th july,2009, mr.maithreepala sirisena ,minister of agriculture has said that the government spends 250 million a day in maintaining idp camps.  After many deaths and  reported transfer of about 14,000 odd elderly people out of the camps and detaining  thousands of suspects in unknown places there may be less than 250,ooo idps remaining in the camps now.

That means, according to the government&#039;s  expenses an average of one (1) million rupees is being spent on one (1) individual in the idp camp. Daily.

Instead of spending 250 million rupees  in maintaining idp camps holding 250 individuals daily and keeping these idps confined to a small area depriving them the freedom of movement and making them to suffer untold hardships won&#039;t it be more logical for the government to deposit (1) one million rupees against each of the persons in the idp camps in a fixed deposit with payment of interest monthly and release all the persons to find their own way in the country. This would give each person about 8000/= rupees a month even if they get an interest of about 10%  per annum which is sufficient for a person to live a fairly comfortable life.  The government may call these people and offer them a block of land to build a house when the lands are made suitable for habitation. I hope my argument would catch the attention of the minister of agriculture to get into a serious thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a &#8216;daily news&#8217; paper report on the 8th july,2009, mr.maithreepala sirisena ,minister of agriculture has said that the government spends 250 million a day in maintaining idp camps.  After many deaths and  reported transfer of about 14,000 odd elderly people out of the camps and detaining  thousands of suspects in unknown places there may be less than 250,ooo idps remaining in the camps now.</p>
<p>That means, according to the government&#8217;s  expenses an average of one (1) million rupees is being spent on one (1) individual in the idp camp. Daily.</p>
<p>Instead of spending 250 million rupees  in maintaining idp camps holding 250 individuals daily and keeping these idps confined to a small area depriving them the freedom of movement and making them to suffer untold hardships won&#8217;t it be more logical for the government to deposit (1) one million rupees against each of the persons in the idp camps in a fixed deposit with payment of interest monthly and release all the persons to find their own way in the country. This would give each person about 8000/= rupees a month even if they get an interest of about 10%  per annum which is sufficient for a person to live a fairly comfortable life.  The government may call these people and offer them a block of land to build a house when the lands are made suitable for habitation. I hope my argument would catch the attention of the minister of agriculture to get into a serious thought.</p>
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		<title>By: shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived through and helped resettle persons who have been displaced by government programs since 1977. I have also  visited the camps at Manik Farm and found the conditions deplorable. But I must hasten to add the conditions are improving and improving fast..
Zone 4 when I first visited it ( mid June) was a hive of flies. today the situation is much better. The main reason for this is that much more water is now being brought into into this zone.
The numbers of toilets are grossly inadequate. I will not get into the numbers game of how many persons per toilet. the situation is really bad.
Potable water during the initial days was a major problem, but as I said earlier the situation has improved. 
But this does not mean that the situation is good. 
Medical facilities are nowhere near adequate. Two hospitals serve the needs of the two hundred and sixty-four thousand or more persons.
A hajor problem is that the staff do not speak Tamil. Another  problem is that the hospitals are open only between 10.00am and 04.00 pm. 
I must however disagree with some of my friends who claim that militias operate within the camp and are responsible for abducting/screening people. Ex-militants are not treated any differently re entry to the camps, even  those whose relatives are now held within its confines.
I did learn however that a large number of people who had been held captive by the LTTE were readily identifying their recent captors. These persons were arrested by the military and taken away.

I will not pretend to know where they have been taken away to or what fate awaits them.

After all these were the same guys who shot and killed civillians trying to flee from LTTE captivity.

I do not disagree with Hensman or Ruki  on the conditions, but when reporting on a situation one-sided reporting does no one any good. 
I had a good opportunity to speak unhindered to a number of  IDPs. Many of the IDPs at Manik Farm were initially displaced during the JR govt-sponsored pogroms from 1977 onwards  and  whom we had helped resettle during those days. Many of those families were from Sinhala speaking areas and still speak the language. I spoke to a number of IDPs fluent in Sinhala 
So as not to take up too much space I will narrate the experience of 2 particular families I met up in zone 1
Ms. Sivam was originally a resident of Avissawela and speaks fluent Sinhalese. She and her husband a â€˜natamy&#039; by profession were forced to flee Avissawela during the pogrom of 1983 and were settled in Killinochchi.

Having set his family up in Killinochchi Ms. Sivam&#039;s husband returned to Colombo where he continued to work as a â€˜natamy&#039;. 

His earnings went to educate his daughter and she did him proud when she completed her â€˜A&#039; levels and with passes in Bio and Chemistry. She has completed a one year IT course in Database Application and has a fair knowledge of English. 

She escaped being conscripted by the LTTE as she is the only child in her family. In her conversation  she told me  she did not not like to communicate in English because of a fear lurking at the back of her mindâ€¦ she could be recruited.

Sivamallar&#039;s father returned to Killinochchi in August as the ground situation in the area worsened. He came to be with us&#8221; she told us. We fled as the fighting worsened and shells  were falling all around. During this time we lived in bunkers. We had no regular food, many people died in the crossfire she said.

&#8220;Did the LTTE not offer you any help during that time I asked them&#8221;? No she said. The only food we had, came from the government through the UN and World Vision.

My father managed to hire some transport and we secretly left Killinochchi. We stayed for a while in Karayar and when fighting started in that area we left for Mulli Vaikal. My father was injured but he went to the town to see if he could find a way for us to leaveâ€¦ &#8220;He never returned&#8221; said Ms. Sivamâ€¦ &#8220;We left all we had brought with us and ran with a number of other families. The area was quite unknown to us and we did not know what to do, especially now that my husband was also not with us. We went with the others to Vatuwan .

Here there were no houses or bunkers. We were terrifiedâ€¦ On the 17th of May we together with nearly 100,000 others crossed into Omanthai. 

&#8220;A large number of young boys and girls threw away their arms and cyanide capsules and joined in the flight out of hell&#8221; she said. &#8220;Most of those children were between 15 and 17 years&#8221; she added.

&#8220;I am sorry for my daughter, just look at her, she has no clothes. We have relations in Kandy and we have spoken to them on e the phone. They are willing to look after us, do you think you could help us to get to Kandy&#8221;? There was a desperate gleam of hope in the eyes of Ms. Sivam as she said this.

Mr. Kumar a resident of Batticaloa greeted us.

&#8220;Two years ago when the situation in Killinochchi was getting bad, I went there to  visit my sister who was a teacher at Ganeshapuram. My intention was to bring her back to Batticaloa with me. But the LTTE refused to give me a permit to leaveâ€¦

&#8220;As the situation worsened we were forced to flee&#8221; he said.
 &#8220;But why did you not flee to the government controlled area&#8221; I asked.

 &#8220;We were prevented from going to those areas&#8221; he said. Many of us wanted to cross over to government controlled areas but we were not allowed to do this. 

&#8220;Instead in January 2009 we fled to Visvamadhu, from there to Thevipura and from there to Iranapala. All the while fighting was raging, artillery was being used. Shells were falling all over the place. 

&#8220;From Iranapala we fled to Puthumathalamâ€¦ at Puthumathalam my sister died when she was hit by a shell on 16.04.09&#8221; he said.

All of this was narrated in a flat voice completely bereft of the slightest trace of emotion. Not even the death of his sister was mentioned with emotion. 

As far as I could make out the people were and are completely drained of emotion.

Continuing Mr. Kumar said &#8220;on 17.04 we were forced to flee once more. We fled to Vella Mulli Vaikal and reached there on 15.05.09 we then moved towards the Nanthi Kadal.

&#8220;When we came to the Nanthi Kadal I came upon a man who had injured his hand and a leg. I carried him across the lagoon. All the while the LTTE kept firing at those of us who were crossing the lagoon.

&#8220;While we were struggling across the lagoon we were taken in by the navy who later handed us over to the military at Vattuwan. Eight others made it across the lagoon with me&#8221; he said.

&#8220;We arrived at this camp (Anadakumarasamy) on17 Juneâ€¦&#8221; 

Mr. Kumar was suffering from a fever when we met him. He told us he had been to the Indian hospital for treatment and had mentioned that he was a heart patient with high blood pressure problems.

He said he was only treated for the fever. &#8220;Subsequently I went to the Sri Lanka hospital he said. They took some tests and said I would have to wait until the reports reached them.
What I&#039;m trying to say here is that it is not necessary to attempt to paint the govt. either as a devil or show it as an angel. Lt the facts speak for themselves. 
Another point that needs to be mentioned is that the ICRC is now helping to connect families which have been seperated and have been able to reconnect a large number.

However a point I have difficulty in understanding is the attitude taken by  UN staff regarding the upgrading of the present temporary housing conditions.
From what I have seen of the conditions I do not believe that within the next three months the IDPs can be resettled in the villages of their origin as these places need to be completely demined. 
If this is not done effectively we will next be watching people being blown up by undetected landmines
Presently except for zone 1 where temporary zinc sheds have been built on cement floors,  IDPs in the other zones live in tents.
By end August and early September the rains will commence and for those living in tents it will be worse than living in hell as the floors will be flooded.

Whilst agreeing the IDPs should be sent back to their villages of origin as quickly as possible we cannot live by rules as though they are carved in stone. Laws are made for the good of man  and should be applied as such.
I for one welcome the move to build temporary structures on raised cement&#039;concrete floors as this would keep them safe during the monsoon.
I also found that  IDPs are able to make contact with each other though they lived in different zones as well as with kith and kin outside of the zone.
But rather than gripe let us try to do what we can for these innocents. We do not need to depend on handouts from different and diverse agencies.
If each family in this country were to donate a SINGLE MEAL we will have sufficient food to feed all the IDPs.
Can we give it a try?
Remember the little boats of Dunkirk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived through and helped resettle persons who have been displaced by government programs since 1977. I have also  visited the camps at Manik Farm and found the conditions deplorable. But I must hasten to add the conditions are improving and improving fast..<br />
Zone 4 when I first visited it ( mid June) was a hive of flies. today the situation is much better. The main reason for this is that much more water is now being brought into into this zone.<br />
The numbers of toilets are grossly inadequate. I will not get into the numbers game of how many persons per toilet. the situation is really bad.<br />
Potable water during the initial days was a major problem, but as I said earlier the situation has improved.<br />
But this does not mean that the situation is good.<br />
Medical facilities are nowhere near adequate. Two hospitals serve the needs of the two hundred and sixty-four thousand or more persons.<br />
A hajor problem is that the staff do not speak Tamil. Another  problem is that the hospitals are open only between 10.00am and 04.00 pm.<br />
I must however disagree with some of my friends who claim that militias operate within the camp and are responsible for abducting/screening people. Ex-militants are not treated any differently re entry to the camps, even  those whose relatives are now held within its confines.<br />
I did learn however that a large number of people who had been held captive by the LTTE were readily identifying their recent captors. These persons were arrested by the military and taken away.</p>
<p>I will not pretend to know where they have been taken away to or what fate awaits them.</p>
<p>After all these were the same guys who shot and killed civillians trying to flee from LTTE captivity.</p>
<p>I do not disagree with Hensman or Ruki  on the conditions, but when reporting on a situation one-sided reporting does no one any good.<br />
I had a good opportunity to speak unhindered to a number of  IDPs. Many of the IDPs at Manik Farm were initially displaced during the JR govt-sponsored pogroms from 1977 onwards  and  whom we had helped resettle during those days. Many of those families were from Sinhala speaking areas and still speak the language. I spoke to a number of IDPs fluent in Sinhala<br />
So as not to take up too much space I will narrate the experience of 2 particular families I met up in zone 1<br />
Ms. Sivam was originally a resident of Avissawela and speaks fluent Sinhalese. She and her husband a â€˜natamy&#8217; by profession were forced to flee Avissawela during the pogrom of 1983 and were settled in Killinochchi.</p>
<p>Having set his family up in Killinochchi Ms. Sivam&#8217;s husband returned to Colombo where he continued to work as a â€˜natamy&#8217;. </p>
<p>His earnings went to educate his daughter and she did him proud when she completed her â€˜A&#8217; levels and with passes in Bio and Chemistry. She has completed a one year IT course in Database Application and has a fair knowledge of English. </p>
<p>She escaped being conscripted by the LTTE as she is the only child in her family. In her conversation  she told me  she did not not like to communicate in English because of a fear lurking at the back of her mindâ€¦ she could be recruited.</p>
<p>Sivamallar&#8217;s father returned to Killinochchi in August as the ground situation in the area worsened. He came to be with us&rdquo; she told us. We fled as the fighting worsened and shells  were falling all around. During this time we lived in bunkers. We had no regular food, many people died in the crossfire she said.</p>
<p>&ldquo;Did the LTTE not offer you any help during that time I asked them&rdquo;? No she said. The only food we had, came from the government through the UN and World Vision.</p>
<p>My father managed to hire some transport and we secretly left Killinochchi. We stayed for a while in Karayar and when fighting started in that area we left for Mulli Vaikal. My father was injured but he went to the town to see if he could find a way for us to leaveâ€¦ &ldquo;He never returned&rdquo; said Ms. Sivamâ€¦ &ldquo;We left all we had brought with us and ran with a number of other families. The area was quite unknown to us and we did not know what to do, especially now that my husband was also not with us. We went with the others to Vatuwan .</p>
<p>Here there were no houses or bunkers. We were terrifiedâ€¦ On the 17th of May we together with nearly 100,000 others crossed into Omanthai. </p>
<p>&ldquo;A large number of young boys and girls threw away their arms and cyanide capsules and joined in the flight out of hell&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;Most of those children were between 15 and 17 years&rdquo; she added.</p>
<p>&ldquo;I am sorry for my daughter, just look at her, she has no clothes. We have relations in Kandy and we have spoken to them on e the phone. They are willing to look after us, do you think you could help us to get to Kandy&rdquo;? There was a desperate gleam of hope in the eyes of Ms. Sivam as she said this.</p>
<p>Mr. Kumar a resident of Batticaloa greeted us.</p>
<p>&ldquo;Two years ago when the situation in Killinochchi was getting bad, I went there to  visit my sister who was a teacher at Ganeshapuram. My intention was to bring her back to Batticaloa with me. But the LTTE refused to give me a permit to leaveâ€¦</p>
<p>&ldquo;As the situation worsened we were forced to flee&rdquo; he said.<br />
 &ldquo;But why did you not flee to the government controlled area&rdquo; I asked.</p>
<p> &ldquo;We were prevented from going to those areas&rdquo; he said. Many of us wanted to cross over to government controlled areas but we were not allowed to do this. </p>
<p>&ldquo;Instead in January 2009 we fled to Visvamadhu, from there to Thevipura and from there to Iranapala. All the while fighting was raging, artillery was being used. Shells were falling all over the place. </p>
<p>&ldquo;From Iranapala we fled to Puthumathalamâ€¦ at Puthumathalam my sister died when she was hit by a shell on 16.04.09&rdquo; he said.</p>
<p>All of this was narrated in a flat voice completely bereft of the slightest trace of emotion. Not even the death of his sister was mentioned with emotion. </p>
<p>As far as I could make out the people were and are completely drained of emotion.</p>
<p>Continuing Mr. Kumar said &ldquo;on 17.04 we were forced to flee once more. We fled to Vella Mulli Vaikal and reached there on 15.05.09 we then moved towards the Nanthi Kadal.</p>
<p>&ldquo;When we came to the Nanthi Kadal I came upon a man who had injured his hand and a leg. I carried him across the lagoon. All the while the LTTE kept firing at those of us who were crossing the lagoon.</p>
<p>&ldquo;While we were struggling across the lagoon we were taken in by the navy who later handed us over to the military at Vattuwan. Eight others made it across the lagoon with me&rdquo; he said.</p>
<p>&ldquo;We arrived at this camp (Anadakumarasamy) on17 Juneâ€¦&rdquo; </p>
<p>Mr. Kumar was suffering from a fever when we met him. He told us he had been to the Indian hospital for treatment and had mentioned that he was a heart patient with high blood pressure problems.</p>
<p>He said he was only treated for the fever. &ldquo;Subsequently I went to the Sri Lanka hospital he said. They took some tests and said I would have to wait until the reports reached them.<br />
What I&#8217;m trying to say here is that it is not necessary to attempt to paint the govt. either as a devil or show it as an angel. Lt the facts speak for themselves.<br />
Another point that needs to be mentioned is that the ICRC is now helping to connect families which have been seperated and have been able to reconnect a large number.</p>
<p>However a point I have difficulty in understanding is the attitude taken by  UN staff regarding the upgrading of the present temporary housing conditions.<br />
From what I have seen of the conditions I do not believe that within the next three months the IDPs can be resettled in the villages of their origin as these places need to be completely demined.<br />
If this is not done effectively we will next be watching people being blown up by undetected landmines<br />
Presently except for zone 1 where temporary zinc sheds have been built on cement floors,  IDPs in the other zones live in tents.<br />
By end August and early September the rains will commence and for those living in tents it will be worse than living in hell as the floors will be flooded.</p>
<p>Whilst agreeing the IDPs should be sent back to their villages of origin as quickly as possible we cannot live by rules as though they are carved in stone. Laws are made for the good of man  and should be applied as such.<br />
I for one welcome the move to build temporary structures on raised cement&#8217;concrete floors as this would keep them safe during the monsoon.<br />
I also found that  IDPs are able to make contact with each other though they lived in different zones as well as with kith and kin outside of the zone.<br />
But rather than gripe let us try to do what we can for these innocents. We do not need to depend on handouts from different and diverse agencies.<br />
If each family in this country were to donate a SINGLE MEAL we will have sufficient food to feed all the IDPs.<br />
Can we give it a try?<br />
Remember the little boats of Dunkirk?</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus at least these people are getting a regular meal and basic shelter. Do you know the condition in some of the slums that existed for decades and no one bother to notice except speed past them? Do you know how many disabled blind beggars who are out there would lucky to have a piece of bread in a given day? Do you know how many poor mothers, fathers go hungry so their kids can have a meal in this country?
For f$&amp;@ sake stop playing politics with this. At least come to terms with a heap of people in this country who have far worse of regardless of race colour and creed.
Achcharaya sorry I have to ack this, how can you wear pants and say it suits your politics?
If you take kusals account as ur suited script then you should be there at the camp now! Doing what you can to make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus at least these people are getting a regular meal and basic shelter. Do you know the condition in some of the slums that existed for decades and no one bother to notice except speed past them? Do you know how many disabled blind beggars who are out there would lucky to have a piece of bread in a given day? Do you know how many poor mothers, fathers go hungry so their kids can have a meal in this country?<br />
For f$&amp;@ sake stop playing politics with this. At least come to terms with a heap of people in this country who have far worse of regardless of race colour and creed.<br />
Achcharaya sorry I have to ack this, how can you wear pants and say it suits your politics?<br />
If you take kusals account as ur suited script then you should be there at the camp now! Doing what you can to make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Heshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also there is no point in asking him to state his true convictions... he is an ambassador struggling to maintain a positive image of a dictatorial government.  Hence the air of superficiality and arrogance in all of his writings.  None of the 113 ministers bother to express their views openly - it is a task in futility.  Much easier to give a coded message via an interview.  Dayan must think that being in Switzerland provides some kind of shield - that is true, to a certain extent.  But the enormity of the task necessitates that careless banter is not thrown around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also there is no point in asking him to state his true convictions&#8230; he is an ambassador struggling to maintain a positive image of a dictatorial government.  Hence the air of superficiality and arrogance in all of his writings.  None of the 113 ministers bother to express their views openly &#8211; it is a task in futility.  Much easier to give a coded message via an interview.  Dayan must think that being in Switzerland provides some kind of shield &#8211; that is true, to a certain extent.  But the enormity of the task necessitates that careless banter is not thrown around.</p>
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		<title>By: Heshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aachcharya,

Dayan&#039;s background shows that he is pretty weak as far as conviction goes. If I told you he was a support of LTTE and JVP during his Peradeniya days, you might gasp in shock. But it is the truth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aachcharya,</p>
<p>Dayan&#8217;s background shows that he is pretty weak as far as conviction goes. If I told you he was a support of LTTE and JVP during his Peradeniya days, you might gasp in shock. But it is the truth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Manushi</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7340</link>
		<dc:creator>Manushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Achcharya,

I think there is a lot of miscommunication when people try to be politically correct.  Simply put, a positive account of the IDP camps has rattled the cage of certain individuals hell bent on bad mouthing Sri-Lanka.

You say: &quot;Let him come out and confirm or deny Minister Samarasinghe and the GOSL&#039;s claim that this war was won without a single drop of blood&quot;.

Are you saying that the soldiers donated all their blood before going into battle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Achcharya,</p>
<p>I think there is a lot of miscommunication when people try to be politically correct.  Simply put, a positive account of the IDP camps has rattled the cage of certain individuals hell bent on bad mouthing Sri-Lanka.</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;Let him come out and confirm or deny Minister Samarasinghe and the GOSL&#8217;s claim that this war was won without a single drop of blood&#8221;.</p>
<p>Are you saying that the soldiers donated all their blood before going into battle?</p>
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		<title>By: Aachcharya</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7337</link>
		<dc:creator>Aachcharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manushi, 

Oh no i was asking Dayan on what basis he is dismissing KusalPerera&#039;s account while wanting to be cynical about his embracing of Oxford educated stuff as the truth giver. 

I confess Kusal&#039;s version suits my politics. Why do i say this? The bottom line is that no one really knows whats happening there. All those who visit camps are escorted and not allowed to talk to any of the IDPs personally. So we simply dont know. I will believe in Kusal&#039;s account because it fits my interpretation of what this regime is about. 

I am asking Dayan to be open about his politics. So let him come out and say Kath&#039;s politics suits him. Let him come out and confirm or deny Minister Samarasinghe and the GOSL&#039;s claim that this war was won without a single drop of blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manushi, </p>
<p>Oh no i was asking Dayan on what basis he is dismissing KusalPerera&#8217;s account while wanting to be cynical about his embracing of Oxford educated stuff as the truth giver. </p>
<p>I confess Kusal&#8217;s version suits my politics. Why do i say this? The bottom line is that no one really knows whats happening there. All those who visit camps are escorted and not allowed to talk to any of the IDPs personally. So we simply dont know. I will believe in Kusal&#8217;s account because it fits my interpretation of what this regime is about. </p>
<p>I am asking Dayan to be open about his politics. So let him come out and say Kath&#8217;s politics suits him. Let him come out and confirm or deny Minister Samarasinghe and the GOSL&#8217;s claim that this war was won without a single drop of blood.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7321</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop whinging start helping.. There is no point trying to prove who&#039;s accounts are accurate. It is our responsibility to verify things first hand and channel all the material support we can give. 
We went from a ruthless terrorist organisation that bled so much blood to now a shelter, food and sanitation crisis. At least people aren&#039;t getting shot, shelled or stepping on land mines. This crisis can be over come too if we are genuinely committed to helping these people.
Atuwa kadala putuwa hadala wadak naha.. (No point in breaking the barn to make a chair)
We can&#039;t undo all that was done to rid of the barbaric LTTE now to let people go w/o screening for certain elements. It&#039;s the same people held in IDP camps that will suffer in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop whinging start helping.. There is no point trying to prove who&#8217;s accounts are accurate. It is our responsibility to verify things first hand and channel all the material support we can give.<br />
We went from a ruthless terrorist organisation that bled so much blood to now a shelter, food and sanitation crisis. At least people aren&#8217;t getting shot, shelled or stepping on land mines. This crisis can be over come too if we are genuinely committed to helping these people.<br />
Atuwa kadala putuwa hadala wadak naha.. (No point in breaking the barn to make a chair)<br />
We can&#8217;t undo all that was done to rid of the barbaric LTTE now to let people go w/o screening for certain elements. It&#8217;s the same people held in IDP camps that will suffer in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Manushi</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7318</link>
		<dc:creator>Manushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aachcharya says:&quot; Yes Dayan you would rather believe an Oxford educated mathematician â€˜Westerner&#8221; (whose Governments you love to hate), than believe a Sri Lankan Kusal Perera. I dont understand how a mathematician trained at Oxford is good at reporting stuff. Kath&#039;s account just suits your politics&quot;.

I believe Dayan was criticising Western imperialism.  It has nothing to do with hating individual caucasians.
Why on earth should anyone support Kusual Perera simply because he happens to be Sri-Lankan? Could it be because Kath&#039;s account does not suit your &quot;politics&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aachcharya says:&#8221; Yes Dayan you would rather believe an Oxford educated mathematician â€˜Westerner&rdquo; (whose Governments you love to hate), than believe a Sri Lankan Kusal Perera. I dont understand how a mathematician trained at Oxford is good at reporting stuff. Kath&#8217;s account just suits your politics&#8221;.</p>
<p>I believe Dayan was criticising Western imperialism.  It has nothing to do with hating individual caucasians.<br />
Why on earth should anyone support Kusual Perera simply because he happens to be Sri-Lankan? Could it be because Kath&#8217;s account does not suit your &#8220;politics&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: tariq</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7310</link>
		<dc:creator>tariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pleased this debate is happening, up to now the over quarter of a million IDPs in the camps have been unable to make their own narratives heard in the national and international media, except perhaps when we hear that one or two have british or australian citizenship. 
it&#039;s essential that these people&#039;s experiences, memories and thoughts be heard on their own terms, and thus become part of that &#039;free flow of information in the public domain&#039; that groundviews is so admirably committed. 
tariq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased this debate is happening, up to now the over quarter of a million IDPs in the camps have been unable to make their own narratives heard in the national and international media, except perhaps when we hear that one or two have british or australian citizenship.<br />
it&#8217;s essential that these people&#8217;s experiences, memories and thoughts be heard on their own terms, and thus become part of that &#8216;free flow of information in the public domain&#8217; that groundviews is so admirably committed.<br />
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		<title>By: Kumaran</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7303</link>
		<dc:creator>Kumaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kath Noble,
As we are told, you are an &quot;Oxford University graduate in Mathematics&quot;, you must be brilliant in proofing things, and you have now conclusively proofed that, &quot;The stories of disappearances, rapes, starvation and epidemics are clearly propaganda,&quot; we are lead to believe that the IDPs are in safe hands.

If you are reading this, can you please enlighten us why do you think your data set is canonical to make this claim?  Why should we believe your data set is not flawed or biased [towards GOSL]?  

You state in your article, &quot;While time in the IDP camps was limited to a couple of days, and I was never very far from the officers who were assigned to escort our party, I believe that it would have been difficult to present a story too different from the truth.&quot;

So, you spent only a &quot;couple of days&quot; in the IDP camps and were &quot;never very far from the officers&quot; and you have proved beyond doubt that these allegations are &quot;clearly propaganda&quot;?

I am sorry to make this harsh judgment on you, but you sound like a naive foreigner who has been tooled into the propaganda machine of the GOSL, and now you come off like a stooge.

While many people are very sad and depressed they can&#039;t even string a sentence together, it irks me when someone like you pontificates this much from an orchestrated quick visit.  Much like David Miliband landing in Sri Lanka on a quick visit and pontificating on the local ethnic conflict, no?

I don&#039;t know any of these allegations are true, and I agree with your sentiment that there are journalists who are eager to sensationalize and profit from situations like these.  But to make this counter claim from a two day visit on a flawed data set is preposterous and doesn&#039;t seems like objective journalism to me.  

I am a Tamil and never was a supporter of the LTTE.  I lost no loved ones in this war, nor do I have any loved ones in the IDP camps.  I have no political or personal motive for harping on you like this.  My motive for writing this comment here is only humanitarian.  

I agree with some of what you wrote in this article, and appreciate your sincerity when you say &quot;I&#039;m not sure that I see the point in this strategy [these people need to be held until the last cadre is flushed out?] any longer, although I must admit that I don&#039;t have the expertise in security matters to make a proper judgement.&quot;

I think many people&#039;s lives are being destroyed by keeping them in these IDP camps while they can very well be taken care of by their relatives.  I hope you understand this is a life and death situation for many Tamils and many people are worried sick about their loved ones.  

This war is already over and this is no time for propaganda even from an &quot;Oxford University graduate in Mathematics&quot; albeit doing a stint on objective journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kath Noble,<br />
As we are told, you are an &#8220;Oxford University graduate in Mathematics&#8221;, you must be brilliant in proofing things, and you have now conclusively proofed that, &#8220;The stories of disappearances, rapes, starvation and epidemics are clearly propaganda,&#8221; we are lead to believe that the IDPs are in safe hands.</p>
<p>If you are reading this, can you please enlighten us why do you think your data set is canonical to make this claim?  Why should we believe your data set is not flawed or biased [towards GOSL]?  </p>
<p>You state in your article, &#8220;While time in the IDP camps was limited to a couple of days, and I was never very far from the officers who were assigned to escort our party, I believe that it would have been difficult to present a story too different from the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, you spent only a &#8220;couple of days&#8221; in the IDP camps and were &#8220;never very far from the officers&#8221; and you have proved beyond doubt that these allegations are &#8220;clearly propaganda&#8221;?</p>
<p>I am sorry to make this harsh judgment on you, but you sound like a naive foreigner who has been tooled into the propaganda machine of the GOSL, and now you come off like a stooge.</p>
<p>While many people are very sad and depressed they can&#8217;t even string a sentence together, it irks me when someone like you pontificates this much from an orchestrated quick visit.  Much like David Miliband landing in Sri Lanka on a quick visit and pontificating on the local ethnic conflict, no?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any of these allegations are true, and I agree with your sentiment that there are journalists who are eager to sensationalize and profit from situations like these.  But to make this counter claim from a two day visit on a flawed data set is preposterous and doesn&#8217;t seems like objective journalism to me.  </p>
<p>I am a Tamil and never was a supporter of the LTTE.  I lost no loved ones in this war, nor do I have any loved ones in the IDP camps.  I have no political or personal motive for harping on you like this.  My motive for writing this comment here is only humanitarian.  </p>
<p>I agree with some of what you wrote in this article, and appreciate your sincerity when you say &#8220;I&#8217;m not sure that I see the point in this strategy [these people need to be held until the last cadre is flushed out?] any longer, although I must admit that I don&#8217;t have the expertise in security matters to make a proper judgement.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think many people&#8217;s lives are being destroyed by keeping them in these IDP camps while they can very well be taken care of by their relatives.  I hope you understand this is a life and death situation for many Tamils and many people are worried sick about their loved ones.  </p>
<p>This war is already over and this is no time for propaganda even from an &#8220;Oxford University graduate in Mathematics&#8221; albeit doing a stint on objective journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7287</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of balanced approach once has to read all sides of a story now days.
Here is N.Ram&#039;s report on IDP camps.Some  may not like his anti LTTE stand.He is without a doubt a leading journalist of some stature .Hindu is well read in India.
http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/04/stories/2009070457542000.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of balanced approach once has to read all sides of a story now days.<br />
Here is N.Ram&#8217;s report on IDP camps.Some  may not like his anti LTTE stand.He is without a doubt a leading journalist of some stature .Hindu is well read in India.<br />
<a href="http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/04/stories/2009070457542000.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/04/stories/2009070457542000.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: George Gunasekera</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7285</link>
		<dc:creator>George Gunasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cruel war is over and almost all apart from those sheltered in the vanni camps are breathing the air of relief. Those who were worrying hearing and seeing the lamenting of people in the vanni camps  can comfort themselves to some extent now that significant improvements have been effected by those concerned to make the lives of those unfortunate  more bearable.Ofcourse no place on earth is better than home. The Government must try to shorten the period of stay in these camps as far as possible even though these people may be suffering for their own sins  of providing  security for the safety of a megalomaniac. The general public of Sri Lanka patiently bore the brunt of hunger to support the Government to fight terror and the same public will surely help the Government to provide proper shelter for these unfortunate people and  rid the slur of having these degrading camps in our country if a rallying call is made by the authorities.We must make a determind effort towards this end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cruel war is over and almost all apart from those sheltered in the vanni camps are breathing the air of relief. Those who were worrying hearing and seeing the lamenting of people in the vanni camps  can comfort themselves to some extent now that significant improvements have been effected by those concerned to make the lives of those unfortunate  more bearable.Ofcourse no place on earth is better than home. The Government must try to shorten the period of stay in these camps as far as possible even though these people may be suffering for their own sins  of providing  security for the safety of a megalomaniac. The general public of Sri Lanka patiently bore the brunt of hunger to support the Government to fight terror and the same public will surely help the Government to provide proper shelter for these unfortunate people and  rid the slur of having these degrading camps in our country if a rallying call is made by the authorities.We must make a determind effort towards this end.</p>
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		<title>By: Aachcharya</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7279</link>
		<dc:creator>Aachcharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Dayan you would rather believe an Oxford educated mathematician &#039;Westerner&quot; (whose Governments you love to hate), than believe a Sri Lankan Kusal Perera. I dont understand how a mathematician trained at Oxford is good at reporting stuff. Kath&#039;s account just suits your politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Dayan you would rather believe an Oxford educated mathematician &#8216;Westerner&#8221; (whose Governments you love to hate), than believe a Sri Lankan Kusal Perera. I dont understand how a mathematician trained at Oxford is good at reporting stuff. Kath&#8217;s account just suits your politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7277</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dayan&amp;Malinda,
I concur with underdog.
I dont&#039;t look at once allegiance current or past.I look at substance and the ability  of the person has displayed to feel for others.I certainly don&#039;t look at ethnicity of the author be it WASP or not.All I care is people are suffering in  IDP camps and lets get releif for them.
As far as general SL political problem I see some good comments from you and Lionel.My personal stand would be for a fair and just solution based on devolution of powers to regions and local govts.If possible a secular center.I am no politician or a  political commentator.Just a well wisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dayan&amp;Malinda,<br />
I concur with underdog.<br />
I dont&#8217;t look at once allegiance current or past.I look at substance and the ability  of the person has displayed to feel for others.I certainly don&#8217;t look at ethnicity of the author be it WASP or not.All I care is people are suffering in  IDP camps and lets get releif for them.<br />
As far as general SL political problem I see some good comments from you and Lionel.My personal stand would be for a fair and just solution based on devolution of powers to regions and local govts.If possible a secular center.I am no politician or a  political commentator.Just a well wisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Dayan Jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7276</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayan Jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Justice, 

If I had to choose between the testimony of Kusal Perera whose  advocacy regarding the LTTE and the war are well known (one of the earliest smart things Opp Leader Mahinda Rajapakse did was to drop him like a hot potato), and the eyewitness report of a non-Sri Lankan Oxford educated mathematician, can you blame me for assigning greater credence to the latter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Justice, </p>
<p>If I had to choose between the testimony of Kusal Perera whose  advocacy regarding the LTTE and the war are well known (one of the earliest smart things Opp Leader Mahinda Rajapakse did was to drop him like a hot potato), and the eyewitness report of a non-Sri Lankan Oxford educated mathematician, can you blame me for assigning greater credence to the latter?</p>
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		<title>By: The Underdog</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2009/07/02/an-eye-witness-account-of-idp-camp-conditions-in-sri-lanka/#comment-7271</link>
		<dc:creator>The Underdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what to believe. Look left and we&#039;re told there&#039;s people defecating in the open; look right and there are toilets with running water. Who to believe? Open the damn gates for crying out loud. Let the media in, let the people out (if they want out). It&#039;s the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what to believe. Look left and we&#8217;re told there&#8217;s people defecating in the open; look right and there are toilets with running water. Who to believe? Open the damn gates for crying out loud. Let the media in, let the people out (if they want out). It&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
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