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	<title>Comments on: So close and yet so far: From Pooneryn to peace in Sri Lanka</title>
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		<title>By: T. Douglas</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4159</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ujey&quot; 
 
THE WORLD KNOWS THERE IS GENOCIDE IN SRI LANKA. 
 
SRI LANKA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WAORLD THAT BOMBARD ITS OWN CITIZENS AND LATELY USING CLUSTER BOMBS ON CIVILIAN POPULATION. 
 
OVER 1 MILLION TAMILS FLED SRI LANKA BECAUSE OF THE ATROCITIES OF THE SUCCESSIVE SRI LANKAN GOVTS. AGAINST THE INNOCENT TAMIL CIVILIANS. THIS IS HISTORY AND CANNOT BE ERASED OUT. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ujey&quot; </p>
<p>THE WORLD KNOWS THERE IS GENOCIDE IN SRI LANKA. </p>
<p>SRI LANKA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WAORLD THAT BOMBARD ITS OWN CITIZENS AND LATELY USING CLUSTER BOMBS ON CIVILIAN POPULATION. </p>
<p>OVER 1 MILLION TAMILS FLED SRI LANKA BECAUSE OF THE ATROCITIES OF THE SUCCESSIVE SRI LANKAN GOVTS. AGAINST THE INNOCENT TAMIL CIVILIANS. THIS IS HISTORY AND CANNOT BE ERASED OUT.</p>
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		<title>By: UJay</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4135</link>
		<dc:creator>UJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, Douglas, 
You are talking about genocide &amp; racism from Sinhalese. Can you write why Sinhalese &amp; Muslims living in Norther province were chased out ? What happened to other Tamil liberation groups in 80&#039;s ? Who killed more Tamils, last 30 years. Sinhalese, Muslims or LTTE ? What happened to Tamil political elite. Who killed gentle Sri Lankan called Lakshman Kadirgamar ? Who massacred meditaing monks in Arrantala ? Who attacked religious places like Sri Maha bodhi or Kandy temple ? Here you are taking about Sinhalese racism. 
MG Ramachandran also had a dream. &quot; His dream was to create a great Tamil nation with Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka and Malaysia.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, Douglas,<br />
You are talking about genocide &amp; racism from Sinhalese. Can you write why Sinhalese &amp; Muslims living in Norther province were chased out ? What happened to other Tamil liberation groups in 80&#039;s ? Who killed more Tamils, last 30 years. Sinhalese, Muslims or LTTE ? What happened to Tamil political elite. Who killed gentle Sri Lankan called Lakshman Kadirgamar ? Who massacred meditaing monks in Arrantala ? Who attacked religious places like Sri Maha bodhi or Kandy temple ? Here you are taking about Sinhalese racism.<br />
MG Ramachandran also had a dream. &quot; His dream was to create a great Tamil nation with Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka and Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: T. DOUGLAS</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4090</link>
		<dc:creator>T. DOUGLAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJITH!  REMEMBER EVEN INDIA SUPPORTED SRI LANKA TO BE IN THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION BUT FAILED MISERABLY. THE WORLD KNOWS THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES CARRIED OUT SYSTEMATICALLY AGAINST THE MINORITY TAMILS AND THE MEDIA PERSONNELS BY THE RAJAPAKSE JUNTA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJITH!  REMEMBER EVEN INDIA SUPPORTED SRI LANKA TO BE IN THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION BUT FAILED MISERABLY. THE WORLD KNOWS THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES CARRIED OUT SYSTEMATICALLY AGAINST THE MINORITY TAMILS AND THE MEDIA PERSONNELS BY THE RAJAPAKSE JUNTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mr. Douglas, UN human rights council is a 47 member council (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/) &quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/) &lt;/a&gt; that gets elected from time to time as I understand &#8211; correct me if I am wrong I&#039;m not an expert in this area. Out of the 47 seats 4 of the seats are held by Asian states. If I recall correctly Sri Lanka simply failed to get &#8220;re-elected&#8221; - not &#8220;kicked out&#8221;. Hardly surprising considering Sri Lanka at the time was on a war footing. Given the circumstances it makes sense to appoint states that are not in an awkward position to represent the objectives of the council. To carry out its agenda to the fullest extent. So they elected Japan, Bahrain, South Korea and Pakistan this time around. Note that India wasn&#039;t elected either!  
 
Anyway according to your logic any state not being in the council implies they are gross violators of human rights. Thus all nations other than 47 out of the 192 member states are gross violators of human rights. Given the fact that Asia only has 4 seats in this council, only 4 Asian countries are classified as &#8220;saint&#8221; nations at any given time. I am also quite certain media issues had nothing to do with it. It was simply because of some NGO&#039;s were shouting foul. We all know some NGOs actively engage in propaganda activities but that&#039;s there to be debated. 
 
It is easy to twist facts and make it sound so bad in a propaganda scenario. Also writing it in all caps doesn&#039;t make an impact either. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mr. Douglas, UN human rights council is a 47 member council (<a href="http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/) " target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/</a>)  that gets elected from time to time as I understand &ndash; correct me if I am wrong I&#039;m not an expert in this area. Out of the 47 seats 4 of the seats are held by Asian states. If I recall correctly Sri Lanka simply failed to get &ldquo;re-elected&rdquo; &#8211; not &ldquo;kicked out&rdquo;. Hardly surprising considering Sri Lanka at the time was on a war footing. Given the circumstances it makes sense to appoint states that are not in an awkward position to represent the objectives of the council. To carry out its agenda to the fullest extent. So they elected Japan, Bahrain, South Korea and Pakistan this time around. Note that India wasn&#039;t elected either!  </p>
<p>Anyway according to your logic any state not being in the council implies they are gross violators of human rights. Thus all nations other than 47 out of the 192 member states are gross violators of human rights. Given the fact that Asia only has 4 seats in this council, only 4 Asian countries are classified as &ldquo;saint&rdquo; nations at any given time. I am also quite certain media issues had nothing to do with it. It was simply because of some NGO&#039;s were shouting foul. We all know some NGOs actively engage in propaganda activities but that&#039;s there to be debated. </p>
<p>It is easy to twist facts and make it sound so bad in a propaganda scenario. Also writing it in all caps doesn&#039;t make an impact either.</p>
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		<title>By: T.DOUGLAS</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4080</link>
		<dc:creator>T.DOUGLAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SRI LANKA WAS KICKED OUT OF THE UN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION BECAUSE OF WORST HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION CARRIED OUT BY THE RAJAPAKSE GOVT. AGAINST THE MINORITY TAMILS AND THE MEDIA PERSONNELS. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SRI LANKA WAS KICKED OUT OF THE UN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION BECAUSE OF WORST HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION CARRIED OUT BY THE RAJAPAKSE GOVT. AGAINST THE MINORITY TAMILS AND THE MEDIA PERSONNELS.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4079</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I hear that the Tigers are losing ground; is there a chance for peace in Sri Lanka?&quot; was a question put to me by a German citizen. I said to him &quot;the Tigers may be losing battles but as to who will win the war is yet to be seen because the Tigers are fighting a long drawn out guerella war&quot; 
 
I further explained that the Sri Lankan state spends about Rs 50,000,000 or US 500,000 to kill every Tiger combatant. This money is, if not for the war, would have normally been used for creating jobs and development in the South and not in the North East. 
 
Therefore, the Tigers have successfully dragged the state into the trap of twin disaster, namely, economic disaster and no development for the South. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I hear that the Tigers are losing ground; is there a chance for peace in Sri Lanka?&quot; was a question put to me by a German citizen. I said to him &quot;the Tigers may be losing battles but as to who will win the war is yet to be seen because the Tigers are fighting a long drawn out guerella war&quot; </p>
<p>I further explained that the Sri Lankan state spends about Rs 50,000,000 or US 500,000 to kill every Tiger combatant. This money is, if not for the war, would have normally been used for creating jobs and development in the South and not in the North East. </p>
<p>Therefore, the Tigers have successfully dragged the state into the trap of twin disaster, namely, economic disaster and no development for the South.</p>
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		<title>By: SahaSamvada</title>
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		<dc:creator>SahaSamvada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, you people supposedly began the &#039;armed revolution&#039; claiming that other peaceful methods had failed and fought and are still fighting a bloody war for an absolute utopia, &#039;Tamil Eelam&#039;. After all these years and the endless numbers of lives lost and are still being lost you still believe that Eelam is the only solution in restoring the human rights and dignity of the Tamil people. ...and you say that I am dreaming! 
 
You and your &#039;revolutionaries&#039; have missed several opportunities to bring about a negotiated settlement, not even hesitating to kill your own brethren who chose to dissent. In the hypothetical situation of Tamil Eelam becoming a reality what is the guarantee that you will not start fighting internally based on caste, regional animosity and revenge? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, you people supposedly began the &#039;armed revolution&#039; claiming that other peaceful methods had failed and fought and are still fighting a bloody war for an absolute utopia, &#039;Tamil Eelam&#039;. After all these years and the endless numbers of lives lost and are still being lost you still believe that Eelam is the only solution in restoring the human rights and dignity of the Tamil people. &#8230;and you say that I am dreaming! </p>
<p>You and your &#039;revolutionaries&#039; have missed several opportunities to bring about a negotiated settlement, not even hesitating to kill your own brethren who chose to dissent. In the hypothetical situation of Tamil Eelam becoming a reality what is the guarantee that you will not start fighting internally based on caste, regional animosity and revenge?</p>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4068</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam and T Douglas. Since both of you loosely use the term genocide why not include the countless muslims and sinhalese murdered by the LTTE in your genoicde? LTTE&#039;s ethnic cleansing of the North? Raiding Sinhalese/Muslim border villages, raping and murdering innocent civilians so LTTE can claim eelam land? Eelam is made out of violation of human rights. Never ever humane people will let that eelam exist that is built upon the blood of innocent people.  
Btw, I don&#039;t search I read and these and are facts I come across. I am sorry I don&#039;t read pro LTTE propaganda where you get your facts from. For that I pity you. You never adequately counter argue my claims either. Just say &quot;genocide&quot; this and &quot;genocide&quot; that. Never you make a factually based argument nor present evidence. It&#039;s just the eelamist propaganda repeating a mantra over n over. I think for the intelligent readers here your motives are clear.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam and T Douglas. Since both of you loosely use the term genocide why not include the countless muslims and sinhalese murdered by the LTTE in your genoicde? LTTE&#039;s ethnic cleansing of the North? Raiding Sinhalese/Muslim border villages, raping and murdering innocent civilians so LTTE can claim eelam land? Eelam is made out of violation of human rights. Never ever humane people will let that eelam exist that is built upon the blood of innocent people.<br />
Btw, I don&#039;t search I read and these and are facts I come across. I am sorry I don&#039;t read pro LTTE propaganda where you get your facts from. For that I pity you. You never adequately counter argue my claims either. Just say &quot;genocide&quot; this and &quot;genocide&quot; that. Never you make a factually based argument nor present evidence. It&#039;s just the eelamist propaganda repeating a mantra over n over. I think for the intelligent readers here your motives are clear.</p>
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		<title>By: T.Douglas</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4061</link>
		<dc:creator>T.Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
                    Genocide in Sri Lanka 
Sri Lankan government and its armed forces brutal, violent, and relentless military operations in the Vanni area forcing over 300,000 Tamil civilians to flee their normal homes. These people are displaced many times in the past few months living in subhuman, degraded and pathetic conditions in many makeshift camps, under the trees, schools, open air and uninhabitable area in the land of the suffering. These people have no access or very limited access to food, medicine, and other basic essentials. Drinking water is scarce, and sanitation is virtually non existent. The places where they eat and sleep are uninhabitable for any human being.  
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genocide in Sri Lanka<br />
Sri Lankan government and its armed forces brutal, violent, and relentless military operations in the Vanni area forcing over 300,000 Tamil civilians to flee their normal homes. These people are displaced many times in the past few months living in subhuman, degraded and pathetic conditions in many makeshift camps, under the trees, schools, open air and uninhabitable area in the land of the suffering. These people have no access or very limited access to food, medicine, and other basic essentials. Drinking water is scarce, and sanitation is virtually non existent. The places where they eat and sleep are uninhabitable for any human being.</p>
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		<title>By: P-G Barebones</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4051</link>
		<dc:creator>P-G Barebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure whether the remark &quot;the LTTE&#039;s conventional military defeat is imminement&quot; is a reliable assessment. It looks to me that the military failed to take Kilinochchi despite strenoous efforts for 3 months. Pooneryn perhaps is a consolation prize to contain public disappointment.  
 
Anyway, though Kilinochchci may or may not fall by say year&#039;s end, my key disagreement with the author is that the LTTE will be forced to give up conventional warfare and revert to guerrilla tactics soon. To be able to fight a large army on about 5 fronts and hold on for so long suggests some depth in conventional military capability, logistics, command &amp; control etc. 
 
While I am not attempting to predict the eventual outcome, my considered view is that conventional warfare (prior to, if ever, a return to guerrilla attrition) will go on for quite a while more - maybe even an year or two. Then what next? Nobody can tell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure whether the remark &quot;the LTTE&#039;s conventional military defeat is imminement&quot; is a reliable assessment. It looks to me that the military failed to take Kilinochchi despite strenoous efforts for 3 months. Pooneryn perhaps is a consolation prize to contain public disappointment.  </p>
<p>Anyway, though Kilinochchci may or may not fall by say year&#039;s end, my key disagreement with the author is that the LTTE will be forced to give up conventional warfare and revert to guerrilla tactics soon. To be able to fight a large army on about 5 fronts and hold on for so long suggests some depth in conventional military capability, logistics, command &amp; control etc. </p>
<p>While I am not attempting to predict the eventual outcome, my considered view is that conventional warfare (prior to, if ever, a return to guerrilla attrition) will go on for quite a while more &#8211; maybe even an year or two. Then what next? Nobody can tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Thambipillai</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4053</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Thambipillai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bhagya 
 
[Edited out - Sam please engage with the issue and kindly do not launch into personal attacks that go against the spirit and tone of debate encouraged on this site. Thank you]

Kichi, 
 
your thinking is good and so is your intention but do not expect it to happen under the present hegemonistic anti Tamil Sinhala society. 
 
Ajith, 
 
I know that you search for broken and frustrated politicians and Sinhala mass media for your logic of &quot;no genocide exists for Tamils&quot;. As I wrote earller you must change your glasses!  Unless you learn to eeek the truth you will wall in deception and decieve others also.. 
 
Saha Samvada, 
 
The reality is that Tamil Eelam should be granted as an independent sovereign state to stop gross human rights violations, collective punishment and genocide. Unless you come to this truth you are far from reality. You are dreaming ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bhagya </p>
<p>[Edited out - Sam please engage with the issue and kindly do not launch into personal attacks that go against the spirit and tone of debate encouraged on this site. Thank you]</p>
<p>Kichi, </p>
<p>your thinking is good and so is your intention but do not expect it to happen under the present hegemonistic anti Tamil Sinhala society. </p>
<p>Ajith, </p>
<p>I know that you search for broken and frustrated politicians and Sinhala mass media for your logic of &quot;no genocide exists for Tamils&quot;. As I wrote earller you must change your glasses!  Unless you learn to eeek the truth you will wall in deception and decieve others also.. </p>
<p>Saha Samvada, </p>
<p>The reality is that Tamil Eelam should be granted as an independent sovereign state to stop gross human rights violations, collective punishment and genocide. Unless you come to this truth you are far from reality. You are dreaming !</p>
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		<title>By: Bhagya</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4047</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhagya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, 
I agree with Chelvanayakam and Martin Luther King Story , we all are  in the  sam page. 
 
Ifyou ever  attend a  school, can you compare this  with suicide bombers  dresslike mothers? 
Would  you  win a freedom fight? 
Is that What ML king  did or Mahathma  Ghandi  did? 
 
You may be one of those who has a direct debit  from an offshore account , to LTTE . 
 
I respect all tamil rights and thier  right to control thier Native areas, with out  Sinhalese impact. 
After all they  are all same Srilankans who carry the same NID card, and same certificates and logoes 
I doubt  you are..... 
 
Obama, well ge  has spoken out  who  he  is and what he is, can the  leaders so said  representing  tamils come out of the jungle and work for thier people as decent human beings, rather than destroying valueble tamil youths  for his survival ? 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,<br />
I agree with Chelvanayakam and Martin Luther King Story , we all are  in the  sam page. </p>
<p>Ifyou ever  attend a  school, can you compare this  with suicide bombers  dresslike mothers?<br />
Would  you  win a freedom fight?<br />
Is that What ML king  did or Mahathma  Ghandi  did? </p>
<p>You may be one of those who has a direct debit  from an offshore account , to LTTE . </p>
<p>I respect all tamil rights and thier  right to control thier Native areas, with out  Sinhalese impact.<br />
After all they  are all same Srilankans who carry the same NID card, and same certificates and logoes<br />
I doubt  you are&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Obama, well ge  has spoken out  who  he  is and what he is, can the  leaders so said  representing  tamils come out of the jungle and work for thier people as decent human beings, rather than destroying valueble tamil youths  for his survival ?</p>
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		<title>By: SahaSamvada</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4048</link>
		<dc:creator>SahaSamvada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam and like minded people need to get a reality check. It will be a great help if people try to understand the true meaning of genocide, a term that is being continuously misconstrued these days, the biggest culprits today being the nonsensical Tamil Nadu people. In reality we cannot blame such ignorant groups when we have people like Sam who continuously remain blind to the atrocities of the LTTE and fuel the guilt-ridden, messed up long-distance nationalism of the Tamil Diaspora.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam and like minded people need to get a reality check. It will be a great help if people try to understand the true meaning of genocide, a term that is being continuously misconstrued these days, the biggest culprits today being the nonsensical Tamil Nadu people. In reality we cannot blame such ignorant groups when we have people like Sam who continuously remain blind to the atrocities of the LTTE and fuel the guilt-ridden, messed up long-distance nationalism of the Tamil Diaspora.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam just for you - http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/18inter--there-is-no-sympathy-for-the-ltte-in-tn.htm

A little bit of a reality check into your la la land. Kind of addresses the real motives of heart broken politicians in TN. It is coming from someone authoritative and knows what he is talking about. Also kinda highlights how moderate Tamils agree that there is no genocide while you repeat otherwise  like a broken record player with no authoritative backing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam just for you &#8211; <a href="http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/18inter--there-is-no-sympathy-for-the-ltte-in-tn.htm" rel="nofollow">http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/18inter&#8211;there-is-no-sympathy-for-the-ltte-in-tn.htm</a></p>
<p>A little bit of a reality check into your la la land. Kind of addresses the real motives of heart broken politicians in TN. It is coming from someone authoritative and knows what he is talking about. Also kinda highlights how moderate Tamils agree that there is no genocide while you repeat otherwise  like a broken record player with no authoritative backing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam here&#039;s video evidence of the real Gunatanamobay like prisons (even worse) in Sri Lanka run by the LTTE -  http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZbdT3ElQM
The government is fighting to shut these down aren&#039;t they? Can you see any humanitarian reason why the government shouldn&#039;t destroy these sites? They are not even fit for holding animals. 

As for the real Obama&#039;s plan of shutting down Gunatanamobay all he is doing is just taking off the tainted wrappings off and re wrapping it.

&quot;Upon closer investigation, however, the proposals suggest that celebrations are premature. Under the Obama camp&#039;s plan, a third group of prisoners from Guantanamo Bay would be placed in front of a new court system designed to handle so-called &quot;national security&quot; cases. According to Michael Ratner this more negative side to these proposals represents the continuation of a preventive detention scheme, &quot;when you are put into a prison without being charged with a crime and without having a trial on that charge.&quot; This amounts to a re-wrapping of Guantanamo in legal paper to make it more palatable.&quot;
Source: http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_briefings/181108</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam here&#8217;s video evidence of the real Gunatanamobay like prisons (even worse) in Sri Lanka run by the LTTE &#8211;  <a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZbdT3ElQM" rel="nofollow">http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZbdT3ElQM</a><br />
The government is fighting to shut these down aren&#8217;t they? Can you see any humanitarian reason why the government shouldn&#8217;t destroy these sites? They are not even fit for holding animals. </p>
<p>As for the real Obama&#8217;s plan of shutting down Gunatanamobay all he is doing is just taking off the tainted wrappings off and re wrapping it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Upon closer investigation, however, the proposals suggest that celebrations are premature. Under the Obama camp&#8217;s plan, a third group of prisoners from Guantanamo Bay would be placed in front of a new court system designed to handle so-called &#8220;national security&#8221; cases. According to Michael Ratner this more negative side to these proposals represents the continuation of a preventive detention scheme, &#8220;when you are put into a prison without being charged with a crime and without having a trial on that charge.&#8221; This amounts to a re-wrapping of Guantanamo in legal paper to make it more palatable.&#8221;<br />
Source: <a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_briefings/181108" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_briefings/181108</a></p>
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		<title>By: kichchi</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/11/18/so-close-and-yet-so-far-from-pooneryn-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/#comment-4030</link>
		<dc:creator>kichchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sam Thambipillai has come out with the existing situation. But he is not correct in saying &quot;Sinhalese are collective participants of this crime&quot;. There are many Sinhalese, individuals and small political parties decrying the situation. He is right in blaming the major political parties for the situation. He could have included the media with the political parties. The media together with the political parties and other vested interested parties are misleading the ordinary Sinhalese people with false information together with the suppression of the plain truth. If you do not know the truth you are liable to make a mistake and that is what the ordinary Sinhalese people are making. It is not their fault. They should be made aware of the truth. The only constraint being that the proper channels are not available. Let us create the channels however costly it may be. 

The world is in turmoil because there is no true democracy in any country including USA, Singapore and Sri Lanka.

If there is true democracy there would not be bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination and these would not be tolerated to any extent. These four pillars of evil society - bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination - must be demolished or eradicated if real and true democracy is to prevail and a just society to be established.

To establish a just society with real and true democracy, the present system of governance practiced in the so-called democratic countries with bogus parliaments must be changed. In these democratic countries full power ultimately rests in the hands of a single person - Prime Minister/President. All the others who are supposed to be having any power are the stooges and hangers-on of that one person. It is on the decision of that one person, the others become powerful or powerless. That is equivalent to dictatorship but indirectly with â€˜rubber stamps&#039;.

So the system of governance has to be changed. The system proposed is that the powers of Parliament must be split and separated and these separated powers must be administered by different sets of people&#039;s representatives elected by different groups of people. The functions of one group must not overlap the functions of another group. All groups are directly elected by the people and as such all of them are equal and so one is neither above/below another nor important/unimportant, like the different organs of our body. In this proposed system power is not concentrated at any given point or to any one person. Power is distributed by the people and shared by the elected representatives. So bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination would not have a place in the â€˜just society&#039;. 
The above is the basic concept.  Further details of the system are available and would be forwarded on request to  

In my humble opinion this is the ONLY way of ending the turmoil in this country as well as in all the countries in the world.

SPLIT AND SEPARATE THE POWERS OF THESE DEMOCRATIC PARLIAMENTS WITHOUT DIVIDING THE COUNTRIES. You will have sustainable peace with everyone living with dignity and in prosperity and leading a pleasant life with serenity which is what you and I are yearning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sam Thambipillai has come out with the existing situation. But he is not correct in saying &#8220;Sinhalese are collective participants of this crime&#8221;. There are many Sinhalese, individuals and small political parties decrying the situation. He is right in blaming the major political parties for the situation. He could have included the media with the political parties. The media together with the political parties and other vested interested parties are misleading the ordinary Sinhalese people with false information together with the suppression of the plain truth. If you do not know the truth you are liable to make a mistake and that is what the ordinary Sinhalese people are making. It is not their fault. They should be made aware of the truth. The only constraint being that the proper channels are not available. Let us create the channels however costly it may be. </p>
<p>The world is in turmoil because there is no true democracy in any country including USA, Singapore and Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>If there is true democracy there would not be bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination and these would not be tolerated to any extent. These four pillars of evil society &#8211; bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination &#8211; must be demolished or eradicated if real and true democracy is to prevail and a just society to be established.</p>
<p>To establish a just society with real and true democracy, the present system of governance practiced in the so-called democratic countries with bogus parliaments must be changed. In these democratic countries full power ultimately rests in the hands of a single person &#8211; Prime Minister/President. All the others who are supposed to be having any power are the stooges and hangers-on of that one person. It is on the decision of that one person, the others become powerful or powerless. That is equivalent to dictatorship but indirectly with â€˜rubber stamps&#8217;.</p>
<p>So the system of governance has to be changed. The system proposed is that the powers of Parliament must be split and separated and these separated powers must be administered by different sets of people&#8217;s representatives elected by different groups of people. The functions of one group must not overlap the functions of another group. All groups are directly elected by the people and as such all of them are equal and so one is neither above/below another nor important/unimportant, like the different organs of our body. In this proposed system power is not concentrated at any given point or to any one person. Power is distributed by the people and shared by the elected representatives. So bribery, corruption, injustice and discrimination would not have a place in the â€˜just society&#8217;.<br />
The above is the basic concept.  Further details of the system are available and would be forwarded on request to  </p>
<p>In my humble opinion this is the ONLY way of ending the turmoil in this country as well as in all the countries in the world.</p>
<p>SPLIT AND SEPARATE THE POWERS OF THESE DEMOCRATIC PARLIAMENTS WITHOUT DIVIDING THE COUNTRIES. You will have sustainable peace with everyone living with dignity and in prosperity and leading a pleasant life with serenity which is what you and I are yearning.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this ridiculous notion of the LTTE &#039;reverting to guerrilla tactics&#039;, hiding in the jungles etc. LTTE are already a guerrilla force and they are already fighting in the jungle, and getting a severe beating while at it. All you &#039;analysts&#039; are never ready to say anything straight. After the East was cleared, the &#039;defence analysts&#039; said the North would not be cleared with the same ease. After the Mannar rice bowl was cleared the analysts said the Army would never get LTTE strongholds like Mallavi and Pooneryn. Now they say the hardcore fighters are defending Killinocchi. You guys will just say the &#039;hardcore fighters&#039; decided Mullathivu is a better place to defend when Kilinocchi falls. After that the &#039;hardcore fighters&#039; will just have to jump into the sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this ridiculous notion of the LTTE &#8216;reverting to guerrilla tactics&#8217;, hiding in the jungles etc. LTTE are already a guerrilla force and they are already fighting in the jungle, and getting a severe beating while at it. All you &#8216;analysts&#8217; are never ready to say anything straight. After the East was cleared, the &#8216;defence analysts&#8217; said the North would not be cleared with the same ease. After the Mannar rice bowl was cleared the analysts said the Army would never get LTTE strongholds like Mallavi and Pooneryn. Now they say the hardcore fighters are defending Killinocchi. You guys will just say the &#8216;hardcore fighters&#8217; decided Mullathivu is a better place to defend when Kilinocchi falls. After that the &#8216;hardcore fighters&#8217; will just have to jump into the sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Thambipillai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Thambipillai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collective ethnic or racial pride contributes to spiritual and moral decay. And whenevever genocide occurs, rule of law is made inapplicable to the victims. This happens because of moral decay.

During his presidential campaign, Obama described Guantanamo Bay prison as a &quot;sad chapter in American history&quot;. He was very keen in granting justice to the inmates. John Mc Cain had also pledged to close down Guantanamo.

Last week, advisers of Obama were quietly working out a proposal whereby some detainees would be released and others would be prosecuted in Courts. This plan is being is being developed by legal scholars from both the political parties in the USA.

This move would be in contrast to the practice from the Bush administration, which established military trribunals to prosecute detainees.

This week, Barack Obama, in his first interview said that America would be dedicated to moral standards in the world.

It is immoral to treat people like animals by denying their human rights. When any state does it to its citizens, it is punishable. It is contrary to human conscience to practice ethnic slavery, collective punishment and genocide.

We do have a &quot;Guantanamo Bay prison&quot; in Sri Lanka(SL). It is in Boosa. Citizen Tamil detainees, after severe torture, are spending more years together there, compared to the detainees in Guantanamo. President Bush probably established Guantanamo Bay Prison after learning about the notorious horror chamber in Boosa.

Arbitrary arrest of Tamil youth, extreme torture, keeping them in continuous detention without trial, and deliberately denying justice with the intent to destroy youthful life and human dignity, are genocidal halmarks proving moral disintegration of the Sinhala society.

If the major political parties in the South; the UNP and SLFP were really and seriously concerned about granting life and justice to Tamil detainees, they would have openly and aggressively expressed serious concern at the events in Boosa, having identified the destruction of youth life of the detainees. Sinhalese are collective participants of this crime.

Dr Martin Luther King was kept in prison for his political belief. He was a prisoner of conscience. Obama knows the intensity of the abuse of a people and their agony when thrown into prisons.

Non violent Tamil political leader SJV Chelvanayakam was thrown into Welikada prison in SL in 1958. Along with men of his political party he was kept in prison for several years, much longer than Dr Martin Luther King. For the past 50 years since then, the Tamils have faced and grown with the pain of horror from such inhuman acts in prisons. And the Sinhalese have grown adversely to perpetuate such cruelty on Tamils, without any shame whatsoever.

Freedom is usually costly. But the struggle for Tamil freedom is proving to be extremely costly in SL. Yes, we are far from peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collective ethnic or racial pride contributes to spiritual and moral decay. And whenevever genocide occurs, rule of law is made inapplicable to the victims. This happens because of moral decay.</p>
<p>During his presidential campaign, Obama described Guantanamo Bay prison as a &#8220;sad chapter in American history&#8221;. He was very keen in granting justice to the inmates. John Mc Cain had also pledged to close down Guantanamo.</p>
<p>Last week, advisers of Obama were quietly working out a proposal whereby some detainees would be released and others would be prosecuted in Courts. This plan is being is being developed by legal scholars from both the political parties in the USA.</p>
<p>This move would be in contrast to the practice from the Bush administration, which established military trribunals to prosecute detainees.</p>
<p>This week, Barack Obama, in his first interview said that America would be dedicated to moral standards in the world.</p>
<p>It is immoral to treat people like animals by denying their human rights. When any state does it to its citizens, it is punishable. It is contrary to human conscience to practice ethnic slavery, collective punishment and genocide.</p>
<p>We do have a &#8220;Guantanamo Bay prison&#8221; in Sri Lanka(SL). It is in Boosa. Citizen Tamil detainees, after severe torture, are spending more years together there, compared to the detainees in Guantanamo. President Bush probably established Guantanamo Bay Prison after learning about the notorious horror chamber in Boosa.</p>
<p>Arbitrary arrest of Tamil youth, extreme torture, keeping them in continuous detention without trial, and deliberately denying justice with the intent to destroy youthful life and human dignity, are genocidal halmarks proving moral disintegration of the Sinhala society.</p>
<p>If the major political parties in the South; the UNP and SLFP were really and seriously concerned about granting life and justice to Tamil detainees, they would have openly and aggressively expressed serious concern at the events in Boosa, having identified the destruction of youth life of the detainees. Sinhalese are collective participants of this crime.</p>
<p>Dr Martin Luther King was kept in prison for his political belief. He was a prisoner of conscience. Obama knows the intensity of the abuse of a people and their agony when thrown into prisons.</p>
<p>Non violent Tamil political leader SJV Chelvanayakam was thrown into Welikada prison in SL in 1958. Along with men of his political party he was kept in prison for several years, much longer than Dr Martin Luther King. For the past 50 years since then, the Tamils have faced and grown with the pain of horror from such inhuman acts in prisons. And the Sinhalese have grown adversely to perpetuate such cruelty on Tamils, without any shame whatsoever.</p>
<p>Freedom is usually costly. But the struggle for Tamil freedom is proving to be extremely costly in SL. Yes, we are far from peace.</p>
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