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		<title>By: Dayan Jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3745</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayan Jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Amazing

Its amazing that you include me among those who criticise the LTTE as &quot; boys from the lower castes&quot;. i actively supported the EPRLF when it was the first to organise the so-called lower castes, and was condemned in jaffna as a movement of those castes ( though its leaders were from the so-called high castes). I was also a prominent supporter of presdent premadasa. so if anyone can be accused of caste-ism, it ain&#039;t me. by the way my mother came from the so-called karawe caste, though my father was goigama.

as for education and literacy, that&#039;s another matter. it counts. just recently fidel castro made much of the fact that john mccain by his own admission, came fourth from the bottom in his class at the naval academy. 

isn&#039;t it amazing, dear Amazing, that after 35 years of being in the liberation struggle business, mr prabhakaran and the Tigers have not achieved recognition as a fraternal movement by a single national liberation movement anywhere in the world?

isn&#039;t it also amayzing that the most successful guerilla leader in the south asian region, prachanda, (pushpa kumar dayal) now prime minister of nepal, said on the recod to the hidu, that his orgnasation has nothing in common with the tigers which has no &quot;political programme&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Amazing</p>
<p>Its amazing that you include me among those who criticise the LTTE as &#8221; boys from the lower castes&#8221;. i actively supported the EPRLF when it was the first to organise the so-called lower castes, and was condemned in jaffna as a movement of those castes ( though its leaders were from the so-called high castes). I was also a prominent supporter of presdent premadasa. so if anyone can be accused of caste-ism, it ain&#8217;t me. by the way my mother came from the so-called karawe caste, though my father was goigama.</p>
<p>as for education and literacy, that&#8217;s another matter. it counts. just recently fidel castro made much of the fact that john mccain by his own admission, came fourth from the bottom in his class at the naval academy. </p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it amazing, dear Amazing, that after 35 years of being in the liberation struggle business, mr prabhakaran and the Tigers have not achieved recognition as a fraternal movement by a single national liberation movement anywhere in the world?</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it also amayzing that the most successful guerilla leader in the south asian region, prachanda, (pushpa kumar dayal) now prime minister of nepal, said on the recod to the hidu, that his orgnasation has nothing in common with the tigers which has no &#8220;political programme&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: groundviews</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3744</link>
		<dc:creator>groundviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See http://inmutiny.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/cosmopolitan-nationalism-sri-lanka-isnt-ready/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://inmutiny.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/cosmopolitan-nationalism-sri-lanka-isnt-ready/" rel="nofollow">http://inmutiny.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/cosmopolitan-nationalism-sri-lanka-isnt-ready/</a></p>
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		<title>By: amazing</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3615</link>
		<dc:creator>amazing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is in response to comment about directed at Mr. Prabakaran above, which hinted that Mr. P wasn&#039;t &quot;educated, well-read, articulate, politically savvy and realistic...&quot;

My comment back at Mr. Dayan was that his view is one that is common to the colombo,  pseudo-intellectual elites,  especially those from the colombo 7 tamil community such as Mr. N. Thiruchelvam, Mr. L. Kadigamma, and others, who have privately (to me in stark terms) and publicly (in more refined terms) stated that the LTTE leaders do not/did not have the intellectual capacity or educational background to really know what was &quot;good for the tamil people&quot; and that they were &quot;uneducated boys from the lower castes&quot; (envision the snooty facial expression, wrinkling of the nose etc) and it was best that now that they have made their point with the armed struggle they let the &quot;intellectuals&quot; negotiate the political solution.

Whether many like to admit it or not much of the criticism over the years of the LTTE by Tamils has come from the &quot;higher caste&quot; and must be viewed in this context... this war is not only an ethnic conflict but also a conflict of class and caste.

so, dayan&#039;s criticism of Mr. P as being uneducated and not &quot;well-read&quot; falls into this category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is in response to comment about directed at Mr. Prabakaran above, which hinted that Mr. P wasn&#8217;t &#8220;educated, well-read, articulate, politically savvy and realistic&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>My comment back at Mr. Dayan was that his view is one that is common to the colombo,  pseudo-intellectual elites,  especially those from the colombo 7 tamil community such as Mr. N. Thiruchelvam, Mr. L. Kadigamma, and others, who have privately (to me in stark terms) and publicly (in more refined terms) stated that the LTTE leaders do not/did not have the intellectual capacity or educational background to really know what was &#8220;good for the tamil people&#8221; and that they were &#8220;uneducated boys from the lower castes&#8221; (envision the snooty facial expression, wrinkling of the nose etc) and it was best that now that they have made their point with the armed struggle they let the &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; negotiate the political solution.</p>
<p>Whether many like to admit it or not much of the criticism over the years of the LTTE by Tamils has come from the &#8220;higher caste&#8221; and must be viewed in this context&#8230; this war is not only an ethnic conflict but also a conflict of class and caste.</p>
<p>so, dayan&#8217;s criticism of Mr. P as being uneducated and not &#8220;well-read&#8221; falls into this category.</p>
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		<title>By: groundviews</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>groundviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Amazing&quot;, your comment contravened the Site Guidelines. Feel free to resubmit if you rephrase what you want to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Amazing&#8221;, your comment contravened the Site Guidelines. Feel free to resubmit if you rephrase what you want to say.</p>
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		<title>By: amazing</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>amazing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Groundviews, why did you remove my last comment? 
i would appreciate an explanation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Groundviews, why did you remove my last comment?<br />
i would appreciate an explanation</p>
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		<title>By: CHINTHANA MAHINDA</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3602</link>
		<dc:creator>CHINTHANA MAHINDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wijayapala...WHO KILLED MP NADARAJA RAVIRAJ, Joseph Pararajasingham, Kumar Ponnamabalam ect ? Who Killed the 17 aid workers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wijayapala&#8230;WHO KILLED MP NADARAJA RAVIRAJ, Joseph Pararajasingham, Kumar Ponnamabalam ect ? Who Killed the 17 aid workers?</p>
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		<title>By: wijayapala</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3597</link>
		<dc:creator>wijayapala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suren,

&quot;&lt;i&gt;can anyone pl. tell me why Dr Dayan Jayathilake has turned into a someone who glorifies and justifies war, especially under a regime that is infamous for its corruption?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Yes.  The LTTE killed off just about every Tamil leader who could&#039;ve worked with Sinhala progressives to reach a political solution, most recently his old friend Ketesh Loganathan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suren,</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>can anyone pl. tell me why Dr Dayan Jayathilake has turned into a someone who glorifies and justifies war, especially under a regime that is infamous for its corruption?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.  The LTTE killed off just about every Tamil leader who could&#8217;ve worked with Sinhala progressives to reach a political solution, most recently his old friend Ketesh Loganathan.</p>
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		<title>By: suren</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>suren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was schooling, I heard of a Sinhala revolutionary who stood and worked for the rights of the Eelam Thamil people. 

Then later in life, I met him as an impressive intellectual, but can anyone pl. tell me why Dr Dayan Jayathilake has turned into a someone who glorifies and justifies war, especially under a regime that is infamous for its corruption?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was schooling, I heard of a Sinhala revolutionary who stood and worked for the rights of the Eelam Thamil people. </p>
<p>Then later in life, I met him as an impressive intellectual, but can anyone pl. tell me why Dr Dayan Jayathilake has turned into a someone who glorifies and justifies war, especially under a regime that is infamous for its corruption?</p>
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		<title>By: dayan jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>dayan jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m perfectly aware oh why the Tigers didn&#039;t go to tokyo, or rather, the reason they gave. however that&#039;s not the point is it? no other liberation movement would have been stupid enough to pass up the Tokyo platform, on which they could have denounced the washington disinvitation. participation could have also secured them the development funds. thirdly, they couldn&#039;t afford to boycott Tokyo-- as current events are proving.

as for federalism, the truth is that balasingham wrote a tract and then a book ( war and peace) which denied that there had been any agreement to explore federalism. at which point, the royal norwegian govenment produced the minutes of the december 2002 meeting, and disproved his assertion.

there is a reason that Prachanda is PM of nepal and prabhakaran is unsure where he&#039;ll be on his upcoming birthday. the former is educated, well-read, articulate, politically savvy and realistic, while the other wasn&#039;t/isn&#039;t...and he killed off all who were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m perfectly aware oh why the Tigers didn&#8217;t go to tokyo, or rather, the reason they gave. however that&#8217;s not the point is it? no other liberation movement would have been stupid enough to pass up the Tokyo platform, on which they could have denounced the washington disinvitation. participation could have also secured them the development funds. thirdly, they couldn&#8217;t afford to boycott Tokyo&#8211; as current events are proving.</p>
<p>as for federalism, the truth is that balasingham wrote a tract and then a book ( war and peace) which denied that there had been any agreement to explore federalism. at which point, the royal norwegian govenment produced the minutes of the december 2002 meeting, and disproved his assertion.</p>
<p>there is a reason that Prachanda is PM of nepal and prabhakaran is unsure where he&#8217;ll be on his upcoming birthday. the former is educated, well-read, articulate, politically savvy and realistic, while the other wasn&#8217;t/isn&#8217;t&#8230;and he killed off all who were.</p>
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		<title>By: dayan jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>dayan jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, but the sort of true sinhalese leaders you wish for , did come along. i worked with one of them. according to anita pratap&#039;s books Island of Blood, she asked prabhakaran why h went to war against Preadasa when Preaadas was willing to give him the north and east on a silver platter. his answer to her was that he didn&#039;t want the north and easy on a silver platter.  that sinhala leader was blown up by prabhakaran. then came chandrika, who pushed for radical devolution in 1995, 1997 and 2000. she&#039;s blind in one eye, thanks to prabhakaran. never mind sinhala leaders, let&#039;s recall what he did to an indian leader who was enlightened enough to sponsor the thimpu talks in 1985, the proximity talks in bangalore in 1986 and the accord in 1987: prabhakaran  assassinated him!

 ok, if secession doesn&#039;t succeed at first , let them try again. but before that let whoever look at the statistical results to the aspirant seceding community of this recent attempt at secession. prof ratnajeevan hoole&#039;s recent speech sets them out. what would be the demographic cost of another attempt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, but the sort of true sinhalese leaders you wish for , did come along. i worked with one of them. according to anita pratap&#8217;s books Island of Blood, she asked prabhakaran why h went to war against Preadasa when Preaadas was willing to give him the north and east on a silver platter. his answer to her was that he didn&#8217;t want the north and easy on a silver platter.  that sinhala leader was blown up by prabhakaran. then came chandrika, who pushed for radical devolution in 1995, 1997 and 2000. she&#8217;s blind in one eye, thanks to prabhakaran. never mind sinhala leaders, let&#8217;s recall what he did to an indian leader who was enlightened enough to sponsor the thimpu talks in 1985, the proximity talks in bangalore in 1986 and the accord in 1987: prabhakaran  assassinated him!</p>
<p> ok, if secession doesn&#8217;t succeed at first , let them try again. but before that let whoever look at the statistical results to the aspirant seceding community of this recent attempt at secession. prof ratnajeevan hoole&#8217;s recent speech sets them out. what would be the demographic cost of another attempt?</p>
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		<title>By: CHINTHANA MAHINDA</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>CHINTHANA MAHINDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punitham, you said &quot;Unless a true Sinhalese leader comes along.&quot; Thats just the point...they have &#039;ALL&#039; been &quot;True Sinhala Racist Leaders!&quot;

Probably the only chance for a lasting peace is  if a &quot;True Statesman&quot; comes along and genuinely devolves power! For a &quot;True Statesman&quot; to be able to devolve power...the majority, or the &quot;Buddhimath Janathaawa,&quot; as they are called by the Sinhala politicians have to use their &#039;Buddhiya&#039; and give their consent to devolve power!

Otherwise the only option the Tamils will have will be, &quot;If at first they don&#039;t &#039;SECEDE&#039;....TO TRY AND TRY AGAIN!&quot;

Millions of years ago Pangaea gradually separated during the Mesozoic period into two smaller supercontinents, Laurasia in the north and Gondawanaland in the south, separated by the Tethys Sea in the east. Today we have North and South America, Africa, Australia, Asia, Europe ect. The number of countries have increased throughout the years...not decreased! If the majority don&#039;t agree to devolving power, the North East will someday go the way of East Timor or Kosovo! All we in Sri Lanka have to look forward to in the future is more bloodshed! SO DEVOLVE POWER NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punitham, you said &#8220;Unless a true Sinhalese leader comes along.&#8221; Thats just the point&#8230;they have &#8216;ALL&#8217; been &#8220;True Sinhala Racist Leaders!&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably the only chance for a lasting peace is  if a &#8220;True Statesman&#8221; comes along and genuinely devolves power! For a &#8220;True Statesman&#8221; to be able to devolve power&#8230;the majority, or the &#8220;Buddhimath Janathaawa,&#8221; as they are called by the Sinhala politicians have to use their &#8216;Buddhiya&#8217; and give their consent to devolve power!</p>
<p>Otherwise the only option the Tamils will have will be, &#8220;If at first they don&#8217;t &#8216;SECEDE&#8217;&#8230;.TO TRY AND TRY AGAIN!&#8221;</p>
<p>Millions of years ago Pangaea gradually separated during the Mesozoic period into two smaller supercontinents, Laurasia in the north and Gondawanaland in the south, separated by the Tethys Sea in the east. Today we have North and South America, Africa, Australia, Asia, Europe ect. The number of countries have increased throughout the years&#8230;not decreased! If the majority don&#8217;t agree to devolving power, the North East will someday go the way of East Timor or Kosovo! All we in Sri Lanka have to look forward to in the future is more bloodshed! SO DEVOLVE POWER NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: amazing</title>
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		<dc:creator>amazing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here we go again dayan, with your piecemeal approach to history:
&quot;huge monies were lined up at the Tokyo donor conference in April 2003, but the LTTE boycotted it&quot;

and why did the LTTE not come to Tokyo?
hmmmm, let&#039;s see, could it be because they were excluded from the Washington meetings? by design of the GOSL/US who knew they couldn&#039;t come due to the ban.

for the first time ever the LTTE in Oslo said &quot;federalism&quot; was on the table - and what was their reward? the US &amp; GOSL held the next meeting in Washington DC so that they could set the scene/agenda for Tokyo without the LTTE present</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here we go again dayan, with your piecemeal approach to history:<br />
&#8220;huge monies were lined up at the Tokyo donor conference in April 2003, but the LTTE boycotted it&#8221;</p>
<p>and why did the LTTE not come to Tokyo?<br />
hmmmm, let&#8217;s see, could it be because they were excluded from the Washington meetings? by design of the GOSL/US who knew they couldn&#8217;t come due to the ban.</p>
<p>for the first time ever the LTTE in Oslo said &#8220;federalism&#8221; was on the table &#8211; and what was their reward? the US &amp; GOSL held the next meeting in Washington DC so that they could set the scene/agenda for Tokyo without the LTTE present</p>
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		<title>By: dayan jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3567</link>
		<dc:creator>dayan jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neglect of the N/E: 

Indian development funds and South Indian capital were poised to pour into the NEPC after the Accord, except for the fact that the LTTE went to war against the IPKF. 
Then again, huge monies were lined up at the Tokyo donor conference in April 2003, but the LTTE boycotted it. 

 So, you wanna blame someone , go blame Prabhakaran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neglect of the N/E: </p>
<p>Indian development funds and South Indian capital were poised to pour into the NEPC after the Accord, except for the fact that the LTTE went to war against the IPKF.<br />
Then again, huge monies were lined up at the Tokyo donor conference in April 2003, but the LTTE boycotted it. </p>
<p> So, you wanna blame someone , go blame Prabhakaran.</p>
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		<title>By: dayan jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3566</link>
		<dc:creator>dayan jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c&#039;mon guys, the LTTE ain&#039;t in any shape to contain anyone. they didn&#039;t even contain JRJ. there are two factors/forces that do any containing : Delhi (&#039;87) and democracy ( parliamentary balance, Supreme Court). on the other hand there has been no better justification/excuse for emergency rule than ....the LTTE. containment, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#8217;mon guys, the LTTE ain&#8217;t in any shape to contain anyone. they didn&#8217;t even contain JRJ. there are two factors/forces that do any containing : Delhi (&#8217;87) and democracy ( parliamentary balance, Supreme Court). on the other hand there has been no better justification/excuse for emergency rule than &#8230;.the LTTE. containment, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: wijayapala</title>
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		<dc:creator>wijayapala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear amazing

&quot;&lt;i&gt;if it didn&#039;t work in the past what makes you think it will work now?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

There were no provincial govts before the war, and the first proportional representation election was in 1989.  Neither of these had been tried before the war.  You are slighly correct that PR elections would not help the N-E Tamils a great deal, since they are concentrated in that region and not spread out in the country like the Muslims.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;but i KNOW that you KNOW that if the LTTE is finished off not even YOU will be able to contain mahinda and his crowd&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

There is a very bizarre notion among LTTE supporters and even among a few Sinhalese that LTTE violence is somehow preventing Sinhala violence against Tamils.  As evidence they show that there haven&#039;t been large-scale riots against Tamils for the past 25 years since 1983 (forgetting the fact that there had been no anti-Tamil riots in the 19 years between 1958 and 1977, or that there were anti-Tamil riots in Trincomalee two years ago).  

This argument completely neglects the fact that the Tamil suffering before 1983 was absolutely &lt;b&gt;nothing&lt;/b&gt; compared to Tamil suffering since then.  This war has devastated the Tamil population.  The CFA was welcomed by the Tamils, but the LTTE was determined to return to war after seeing that it would not get the ISGA and total control over the N-E.  The LTTE simply cannot exist without being at a state of war, regardless of how many Tamils get killed.  The Tamils can only move forward after the LTTE leaves the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear amazing</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>if it didn&#8217;t work in the past what makes you think it will work now?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>There were no provincial govts before the war, and the first proportional representation election was in 1989.  Neither of these had been tried before the war.  You are slighly correct that PR elections would not help the N-E Tamils a great deal, since they are concentrated in that region and not spread out in the country like the Muslims.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>but i KNOW that you KNOW that if the LTTE is finished off not even YOU will be able to contain mahinda and his crowd</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a very bizarre notion among LTTE supporters and even among a few Sinhalese that LTTE violence is somehow preventing Sinhala violence against Tamils.  As evidence they show that there haven&#8217;t been large-scale riots against Tamils for the past 25 years since 1983 (forgetting the fact that there had been no anti-Tamil riots in the 19 years between 1958 and 1977, or that there were anti-Tamil riots in Trincomalee two years ago).  </p>
<p>This argument completely neglects the fact that the Tamil suffering before 1983 was absolutely <b>nothing</b> compared to Tamil suffering since then.  This war has devastated the Tamil population.  The CFA was welcomed by the Tamils, but the LTTE was determined to return to war after seeing that it would not get the ISGA and total control over the N-E.  The LTTE simply cannot exist without being at a state of war, regardless of how many Tamils get killed.  The Tamils can only move forward after the LTTE leaves the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: wijayapala</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3561</link>
		<dc:creator>wijayapala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punitham

&quot;&lt;i&gt;THIS IS THE STORY OF NORTHEAST SRI LANKA FOR THE LAST SIXTY YEARS, NOT JUST POST-TSUNAMI.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

This is factually incorrect.  Jaffna was fairly well-developed, and GG Ponnambalam had managed to build the N-E economy by participating in the first post-independence govt.- Valaichenai paper factory, KKS cement factory, and Paranthan chemical factory.  Unlike the ITAK dimwits, Ponnambalam understood that the Tamil areas had to be economically developed before shrieking about self-determination (the DMK had a similar emphasis on economic development/industrialization).  

The Sinhala areas in Ruhuna, including Uva Province and many parts of Southern Province (from where the JVP got its members) were definitely more neglected than Jaffna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punitham</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>THIS IS THE STORY OF NORTHEAST SRI LANKA FOR THE LAST SIXTY YEARS, NOT JUST POST-TSUNAMI.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>This is factually incorrect.  Jaffna was fairly well-developed, and GG Ponnambalam had managed to build the N-E economy by participating in the first post-independence govt.- Valaichenai paper factory, KKS cement factory, and Paranthan chemical factory.  Unlike the ITAK dimwits, Ponnambalam understood that the Tamil areas had to be economically developed before shrieking about self-determination (the DMK had a similar emphasis on economic development/industrialization).  </p>
<p>The Sinhala areas in Ruhuna, including Uva Province and many parts of Southern Province (from where the JVP got its members) were definitely more neglected than Jaffna.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3558</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Until thenâ€¦don&#039;t travel by public transport, and beaware of bombs!&quot; this is why i know LTTE will never succeed. Every time they resort to terrorism and killing innocent civilians they lose part of their battle. While I do not enjoy this short sightedness of the LTTE  for the sake of innocent people, I rejoice in the fact that they push their ultimate goal further and further away by these actions. Fools destroy them selves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Until thenâ€¦don&#8217;t travel by public transport, and beaware of bombs!&#8221; this is why i know LTTE will never succeed. Every time they resort to terrorism and killing innocent civilians they lose part of their battle. While I do not enjoy this short sightedness of the LTTE  for the sake of innocent people, I rejoice in the fact that they push their ultimate goal further and further away by these actions. Fools destroy them selves.</p>
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		<title>By: dayan jayatilleka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>dayan jayatilleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny that. I thought the guy who needed advice about not putting all his eggs in the war basket, was not david blacker but....velupillai prabhakaran.

pity that prabhakaran ain&#039;t into joe heller, or literature in general, unlike many guerrilla/liberation movement leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny that. I thought the guy who needed advice about not putting all his eggs in the war basket, was not david blacker but&#8230;.velupillai prabhakaran.</p>
<p>pity that prabhakaran ain&#8217;t into joe heller, or literature in general, unlike many guerrilla/liberation movement leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blacker</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3551</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahinda, we can both pull inane cliched quotes out of our backsides til the contextual cow comes home, but is there any point to that? 

And why do I have to have a war plan? I&#039;m not running this war; I&#039;m just an interested observer like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahinda, we can both pull inane cliched quotes out of our backsides til the contextual cow comes home, but is there any point to that? </p>
<p>And why do I have to have a war plan? I&#8217;m not running this war; I&#8217;m just an interested observer like you.</p>
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		<title>By: CHINTHANA MAHINDA</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2008/09/09/the-politics-of-winning-in-the-vanni/#comment-3550</link>
		<dc:creator>CHINTHANA MAHINDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David read Good as Gold by Joseph Heller,

 &quot;Nothing succeeds like failure&quot; and ... Nothing does succeed as planned and every good intention does go awry. ...

ps: So you better have a plan A, B and C...may be even a D,E and F as well! Don&#039;t put all your eggs in the &#039;war&#039; basket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David read Good as Gold by Joseph Heller,</p>
<p> &#8220;Nothing succeeds like failure&#8221; and &#8230; Nothing does succeed as planned and every good intention does go awry. &#8230;</p>
<p>ps: So you better have a plan A, B and C&#8230;may be even a D,E and F as well! Don&#8217;t put all your eggs in the &#8216;war&#8217; basket!</p>
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