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		<title>By: Veedhur</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Veedhur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A war fought on class faultlines is markedly different to a war faught on ethno-linguistic or religious faultlines. Despite the tactical similarities they have  differences in origin and solutions.

Again, not to say that 87-89 JVP insurrection is wrong analogy, just to point out that there are more and varied examples...

and

One makes choices in life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A war fought on class faultlines is markedly different to a war faught on ethno-linguistic or religious faultlines. Despite the tactical similarities they have  differences in origin and solutions.</p>
<p>Again, not to say that 87-89 JVP insurrection is wrong analogy, just to point out that there are more and varied examples&#8230;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>One makes choices in life</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2297</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sri Lanka is not South Sudan or Yugoslavia. As Dayan says, the best precedent to go by is the JVP insurrection, and that only ended when its leader was assassinated. Once the LTTE leadership is eliminated, we can negotiate a quick truce on terms favourable to us with the remainder of the cadre. Such a truce, while not pandering to the racist exclusivist demands of the Tamil polity, will bring sustainable peace to all communities in the country, including equal treatment before the law and the right to live anywhere in the country.

The reasons for LTTE&#039;s existence are no longer valid. India can no longer support terrorism in Sri Lanka, which is how this all started, and the Tamils don&#039;t face any discrimination except for being suspected as potential terrorists, which is LTTE&#039;s fault. It only remains as a personality cult built around the demi-god VP, funded by his followers (=devotees) in the Tamil diaspora. Once he&#039;s gone along with Pottu Amman, the LTTE will crumble, and the guns will fall silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sri Lanka is not South Sudan or Yugoslavia. As Dayan says, the best precedent to go by is the JVP insurrection, and that only ended when its leader was assassinated. Once the LTTE leadership is eliminated, we can negotiate a quick truce on terms favourable to us with the remainder of the cadre. Such a truce, while not pandering to the racist exclusivist demands of the Tamil polity, will bring sustainable peace to all communities in the country, including equal treatment before the law and the right to live anywhere in the country.</p>
<p>The reasons for LTTE&#8217;s existence are no longer valid. India can no longer support terrorism in Sri Lanka, which is how this all started, and the Tamils don&#8217;t face any discrimination except for being suspected as potential terrorists, which is LTTE&#8217;s fault. It only remains as a personality cult built around the demi-god VP, funded by his followers (=devotees) in the Tamil diaspora. Once he&#8217;s gone along with Pottu Amman, the LTTE will crumble, and the guns will fall silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Veedhur</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>Veedhur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dayan Jayatilleka,

Guns can also fall silent by Negotiations as in South Sudan or by International intervention as in former Yugoslavia.

Conversely they can still keep going even after your definition of Ã¢Â€Â˜defeatingÃ¢Â€Â™ the enemy as Saddam found to his detriment in Kurdistan and Israel is continuously grappling with it in Palastine (didnÃ¢Â€Â™t they take out the Hamas Leader?)

Worse still the Guns can return with a vengeance even after 50 years as in El Salvador Ã¢Â€Â“ remember Ã¢Â€Â˜La MatanzaÃ¢Â€Â™ and Farabundo Marti. It was eventually settled by Peace Agreement.

While I am not knowledgeable enough to argue about your stylized depiction of Angola and Chechnya, I thought of pointing out that there are more ways in which the Guns can fall silent.

One makes choices in lifeÃ¢Â€Â¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dayan Jayatilleka,</p>
<p>Guns can also fall silent by Negotiations as in South Sudan or by International intervention as in former Yugoslavia.</p>
<p>Conversely they can still keep going even after your definition of Ã¢Â€Â˜defeatingÃ¢Â€Â™ the enemy as Saddam found to his detriment in Kurdistan and Israel is continuously grappling with it in Palastine (didnÃ¢Â€Â™t they take out the Hamas Leader?)</p>
<p>Worse still the Guns can return with a vengeance even after 50 years as in El Salvador Ã¢Â€Â“ remember Ã¢Â€Â˜La MatanzaÃ¢Â€Â™ and Farabundo Marti. It was eventually settled by Peace Agreement.</p>
<p>While I am not knowledgeable enough to argue about your stylized depiction of Angola and Chechnya, I thought of pointing out that there are more ways in which the Guns can fall silent.</p>
<p>One makes choices in lifeÃ¢Â€Â¦.</p>
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		<title>By: nandasena</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2295</link>
		<dc:creator>nandasena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the following comment  &quot;Does the LTTE understand anything called the rule of law? Freedom of speech? Freedom of expression? Any freedom at all which is not in line with their thinking? &quot; This comment is like the pot calling the kettle black!!

I would like to ask whether all the above mentioned exists in the &quot;Republic of Sri Lanka&quot;?  If it exists we would not have had so many abductions, extrajudicial killings, demanding ransom, killing of political opponents, killing of  journalist happening.  Worst thing is no investigation took place, if it did, never completed, or findings made public and the pepetrators are aided and abetted by the Government.  Lawless has become the hallmark of Sri Lanka.  They are too numerous to mention.  It does not help to pretend as these things does not happen in our &quot;beloved&quot; country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the following comment  &#8220;Does the LTTE understand anything called the rule of law? Freedom of speech? Freedom of expression? Any freedom at all which is not in line with their thinking? &#8221; This comment is like the pot calling the kettle black!!</p>
<p>I would like to ask whether all the above mentioned exists in the &#8220;Republic of Sri Lanka&#8221;?  If it exists we would not have had so many abductions, extrajudicial killings, demanding ransom, killing of political opponents, killing of  journalist happening.  Worst thing is no investigation took place, if it did, never completed, or findings made public and the pepetrators are aided and abetted by the Government.  Lawless has become the hallmark of Sri Lanka.  They are too numerous to mention.  It does not help to pretend as these things does not happen in our &#8220;beloved&#8221; country.</p>
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		<title>By: punitham</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2294</link>
		<dc:creator>punitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanjana
Many comments in this strand and many other strands tell me that they are made with a dangerously minimum knowledge of the multitude of &#039;&#039;happenings&#039;&#039; that have been twisting and twisting the conflict over the last sixty years. What happened yesterday affects what happens today which affects what happens tomorrow.
What can be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanjana<br />
Many comments in this strand and many other strands tell me that they are made with a dangerously minimum knowledge of the multitude of &#8221;happenings&#8221; that have been twisting and twisting the conflict over the last sixty years. What happened yesterday affects what happens today which affects what happens tomorrow.<br />
What can be done?</p>
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		<title>By: suntzu</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ange... &#039;In the Land of the Blind...the one eyed man is KING!&#039;
&#039;In the  Land of Sri Lanka...the man with the... (I can&#039;t type anymore because Sanjana will censor it!)

ps: Sanjana...I liked MOJU better...stay cool. (Groundviews is ok...ok COOL!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ange&#8230; &#8216;In the Land of the Blind&#8230;the one eyed man is KING!&#8217;<br />
&#8216;In the  Land of Sri Lanka&#8230;the man with the&#8230; (I can&#8217;t type anymore because Sanjana will censor it!)</p>
<p>ps: Sanjana&#8230;I liked MOJU better&#8230;stay cool. (Groundviews is ok&#8230;ok COOL!)</p>
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		<title>By: sham</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>sham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well ange, what u say then we do, let robber come and take my eye away, and we say that its ok??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well ange, what u say then we do, let robber come and take my eye away, and we say that its ok??</p>
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		<title>By: Ange</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2291</link>
		<dc:creator>Ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The philosophy of an eye for an eye will leave us all blind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The philosophy of an eye for an eye will leave us all blind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fonseka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2290</link>
		<dc:creator>Fonseka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those insisting on history, here&#039;s a very brief synopsis:

a.	The JR gov in Ã¢Â€Â™77 granted all the demands on language etc of the Tamil political parties (but Prabakaran continued with LTTE)
b.	In &#039;80s IPKF came and merged N &#038; E and provided a framework, but LTTE waged war against IPKF and would have got annihilated if not for Premadasa
c.	Premadasa invited LTTE for talks, but upon the IPKF departure LTTE re-engaged in terrorism and killed over 600 policemen, who surrendered to LTTE on Premadasa&#039;s orders
d.	Under Chandrika gov further constitutional proposal were made by Neelan Thiruchelvan, but he was assassinated by LTTE
e.	Ranil made incredible concession with the 2002 CFA, but that was used to stock up arms, place sleepers, build the terrorist network etc

In turn,
i.	Prabakaran has reduced LTTE active areas to Tamil prisons
ii.	Reduce the reputation of Tamils globally
iii.	Kill the next Tamil generation and have converted the remainder to terrorists with life lasting psychological damage; displaced countless others
iv.	School principles, temple dignitaries, and other Tamil leaders such as Lakshman Kadirgama, Amirthalingam, Neelan Therichelvam, Alfred Duraippah etc killed. In fact the list of Tamils killed by LTTE far exceeds the list of Sinhalese and Muslims killed by LTTE

For those convinced that Prabakaran is the liberator, here&#039;s a question:
Why with all these concessions over the years Prabakaran insisting on terrorism? Time and again, reasonal solutions could have be reached, but everytime, he killed the very proposer.

The interesting question for all is, where would Prabakran would be if not for his business of terror. Could he have given the same luxurious life he can afford his family now if he remained his family business of smuggling???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those insisting on history, here&#8217;s a very brief synopsis:</p>
<p>a.	The JR gov in Ã¢Â€Â™77 granted all the demands on language etc of the Tamil political parties (but Prabakaran continued with LTTE)<br />
b.	In &#8217;80s IPKF came and merged N &#38;#38; E and provided a framework, but LTTE waged war against IPKF and would have got annihilated if not for Premadasa<br />
c.	Premadasa invited LTTE for talks, but upon the IPKF departure LTTE re-engaged in terrorism and killed over 600 policemen, who surrendered to LTTE on Premadasa&#8217;s orders<br />
d.	Under Chandrika gov further constitutional proposal were made by Neelan Thiruchelvan, but he was assassinated by LTTE<br />
e.	Ranil made incredible concession with the 2002 CFA, but that was used to stock up arms, place sleepers, build the terrorist network etc</p>
<p>In turn,<br />
i.	Prabakaran has reduced LTTE active areas to Tamil prisons<br />
ii.	Reduce the reputation of Tamils globally<br />
iii.	Kill the next Tamil generation and have converted the remainder to terrorists with life lasting psychological damage; displaced countless others<br />
iv.	School principles, temple dignitaries, and other Tamil leaders such as Lakshman Kadirgama, Amirthalingam, Neelan Therichelvam, Alfred Duraippah etc killed. In fact the list of Tamils killed by LTTE far exceeds the list of Sinhalese and Muslims killed by LTTE</p>
<p>For those convinced that Prabakaran is the liberator, here&#8217;s a question:<br />
Why with all these concessions over the years Prabakaran insisting on terrorism? Time and again, reasonal solutions could have be reached, but everytime, he killed the very proposer.</p>
<p>The interesting question for all is, where would Prabakran would be if not for his business of terror. Could he have given the same luxurious life he can afford his family now if he remained his family business of smuggling???</p>
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		<title>By: Fonseka</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>Fonseka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should start with the atrocities committed by LTTE against not only the general Sri Lankans (Sinhalese, Tamils &#038; Muslims), but also of the specific Tamils. History as they say is a matter of interpretation and anyone go down the history lane  a 100 yrs, or to colonial times or even to pre-colonial times to justify crimes against humanity. But the focus should be about here and now.

When combatting a precarious situation like terrorism, esp ones who have their establishments within civilian preimeters, when the existence of one is a threat to hundreds or even thousands, then to preserve HR to the last letter is impossible. This is not a situation unique to SL, but during WWII, after Perl Harbor bombing, all the Japanese living in US were herded out of their homes and into horse stables...

When the JVP were a terrorist group, Sinhalese (youths as young as 14 yrs) were rounded up and almost a decade later the plight of many are unknown. If this terrible deed that had to be done were not done when it was needed to be done, then SL would be plagued with the same menace it is with LTTE. Why this problem has lived for so long and has taken so many lives is because GOSL (Gov of SL) didn&#039;t take the proper measures it should to counter terrorism.

The writer, who claims to be a reporter, should not get emotionally carried away, but impartially report the truth. The truth is, yes, there are &#039;disappearances&#039; - but not in the scale when JVP was persecuted, yes, people are been dtained, but definietely not in the conditions LTTE is keeping its detainees and yes, children are witnessing horror beyond description, but so many more are been forced out of their families into committing terrorism. Children as young as 10 - 12 are been forced to face a professionally trained security force. They die screaming for their mothers.

What the writer in his brief visit has not seen is the humanitarian efforts by the very Security Forces (SF) that he is blaming on - no other SF does the amount of humanitarian relief as the SLSF. If in doubt, then ask why is it before an impeding attack and even during a confrontation and then afterwards, the Tamil people move to areas under SF domination and not vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should start with the atrocities committed by LTTE against not only the general Sri Lankans (Sinhalese, Tamils &#38;#38; Muslims), but also of the specific Tamils. History as they say is a matter of interpretation and anyone go down the history lane  a 100 yrs, or to colonial times or even to pre-colonial times to justify crimes against humanity. But the focus should be about here and now.</p>
<p>When combatting a precarious situation like terrorism, esp ones who have their establishments within civilian preimeters, when the existence of one is a threat to hundreds or even thousands, then to preserve HR to the last letter is impossible. This is not a situation unique to SL, but during WWII, after Perl Harbor bombing, all the Japanese living in US were herded out of their homes and into horse stables&#8230;</p>
<p>When the JVP were a terrorist group, Sinhalese (youths as young as 14 yrs) were rounded up and almost a decade later the plight of many are unknown. If this terrible deed that had to be done were not done when it was needed to be done, then SL would be plagued with the same menace it is with LTTE. Why this problem has lived for so long and has taken so many lives is because GOSL (Gov of SL) didn&#8217;t take the proper measures it should to counter terrorism.</p>
<p>The writer, who claims to be a reporter, should not get emotionally carried away, but impartially report the truth. The truth is, yes, there are &#8216;disappearances&#8217; &#8211; but not in the scale when JVP was persecuted, yes, people are been dtained, but definietely not in the conditions LTTE is keeping its detainees and yes, children are witnessing horror beyond description, but so many more are been forced out of their families into committing terrorism. Children as young as 10 &#8211; 12 are been forced to face a professionally trained security force. They die screaming for their mothers.</p>
<p>What the writer in his brief visit has not seen is the humanitarian efforts by the very Security Forces (SF) that he is blaming on &#8211; no other SF does the amount of humanitarian relief as the SLSF. If in doubt, then ask why is it before an impeding attack and even during a confrontation and then afterwards, the Tamil people move to areas under SF domination and not vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Ally</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the writer presume things would be different in Jaffna if it was under LTTE control? Does the LTTE understand anything called the rule of law? Freedom of speech? Freedom of expression? Any freedom at all which is not in line with their thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the writer presume things would be different in Jaffna if it was under LTTE control? Does the LTTE understand anything called the rule of law? Freedom of speech? Freedom of expression? Any freedom at all which is not in line with their thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Nandasena, what happened in 1915 is to do with British colonial discrimination and persecution of the Sinhalese indigenous majority, and favouritism of Tamil, Muslim and Burgher minorities. The arrogant and incendiary opposition of the Tamil elite to any concessions to the long suffering Sinhalese, and the Tamils  attempts to preserve their anti-democratic discriminatory colonial privileges by any means possible, was the primary cause of the 1958 riots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Nandasena, what happened in 1915 is to do with British colonial discrimination and persecution of the Sinhalese indigenous majority, and favouritism of Tamil, Muslim and Burgher minorities. The arrogant and incendiary opposition of the Tamil elite to any concessions to the long suffering Sinhalese, and the Tamils  attempts to preserve their anti-democratic discriminatory colonial privileges by any means possible, was the primary cause of the 1958 riots.</p>
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		<title>By: nandasena</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>nandasena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sri Lanka was not peaceful until 1971!! Anti Tamil pogroms started in the mid 1950s, as soon as SWRD Bandaranayake came to power.  I presume Rohana has not heard (or conveniently OMMITTED) of the 1958 pogrom. He should read Tarzie Vittachi&#039;s  book &quot;Emergency &#039;58&quot;.  He should read about the peacful protest of the Tamils and how they were manhandled in front of the Parliament.

LTTE was not there then. Pirapaharan was only 4 years old then!!  Since then violence against the Tamils have become endemic in Sri Lanka.

Violence against the Tamils did not start with the LTTE.  LTTE was the byproduct ot the government&#039;s &quot;INABILITY&quot; or should I say &quot;UNWILLINGNESS&quot; to stop the violence committed against the Tamil.  It is no secret that the Government WAS and IS aiding and abetting the violence against  UN-ARMED Tamils.

Before that, I think in 1915, there was violence between  the muslims and  the Sinhalese.  Please do some research before you put pen to paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sri Lanka was not peaceful until 1971!! Anti Tamil pogroms started in the mid 1950s, as soon as SWRD Bandaranayake came to power.  I presume Rohana has not heard (or conveniently OMMITTED) of the 1958 pogrom. He should read Tarzie Vittachi&#8217;s  book &#8220;Emergency &#8217;58&#8243;.  He should read about the peacful protest of the Tamils and how they were manhandled in front of the Parliament.</p>
<p>LTTE was not there then. Pirapaharan was only 4 years old then!!  Since then violence against the Tamils have become endemic in Sri Lanka.</p>
<p>Violence against the Tamils did not start with the LTTE.  LTTE was the byproduct ot the government&#8217;s &#8220;INABILITY&#8221; or should I say &#8220;UNWILLINGNESS&#8221; to stop the violence committed against the Tamil.  It is no secret that the Government WAS and IS aiding and abetting the violence against  UN-ARMED Tamils.</p>
<p>Before that, I think in 1915, there was violence between  the muslims and  the Sinhalese.  Please do some research before you put pen to paper.</p>
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		<title>By: suntzu</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fernando....you said &quot;one day LTTE together with Prabahakaran and his foreign supporters will be properly perished according to the law of the universe.&quot;
According to the Buddha, &quot;Anichaa watha sankaara!&#039; NOTHING IS PERMANENT!
So according to the law of the universe its not only Prabahakaran and his foreign supporters who will perish one day...but also Mahinda Rajapaksa and his supporters as well!
WHO WILL PERISH FIRST? My guess is as good as yours!

ps: Sanjana... how about another Poll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fernando&#8230;.you said &#8220;one day LTTE together with Prabahakaran and his foreign supporters will be properly perished according to the law of the universe.&#8221;<br />
According to the Buddha, &#8220;Anichaa watha sankaara!&#8217; NOTHING IS PERMANENT!<br />
So according to the law of the universe its not only Prabahakaran and his foreign supporters who will perish one day&#8230;but also Mahinda Rajapaksa and his supporters as well!<br />
WHO WILL PERISH FIRST? My guess is as good as yours!</p>
<p>ps: Sanjana&#8230; how about another Poll?</p>
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		<title>By: suntzu</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dayan Jayatilleka... could you shed some light on Eritrea and East Timor please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dayan Jayatilleka&#8230; could you shed some light on Eritrea and East Timor please?</p>
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		<title>By: Sham</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minority or subordinate group is a sociological group that does not constitute a politically dominant plurality of the total population of a given society.- wikipedia

I have read in this site a lot about conflict resolution, and peace. but what i am not clear is that , how can a minority (as defined above) claim that due to their minotiry status claim that that they should be seperated and that they form a seperate enitity or a country.

my main question arises from the fact that, where would such demand end , example what what be the lowest common denominator?

my reasoning come from this. example - if we say in sri lankan terms , lets say that the kandyan buddishts decided to create a seperate state. they have legal precedent due to nayyakkar history and the kandyan law. they are in one geograpgical area and also of one religion. they are of one cast, say kandyan cast. so does that mean if they want to seperate from the rest the sri lankan government and the world and UN and UNHCR should help them if they say that they have been discriminated.

to take a international example, mermons in mormons of Utah, if they are the majority in Utah state are having their own culture and religion and geographically in a seperate area. could they ask USA government for seperation from US of A..

now some can argue that united states have devolved power.  i am not too aware of the level of power devolution in Utah , but since they call it one country, one citizenship, one currency, one national anthem i feel they still are within one country...

seperate flag or police or municiplaty in state level (equavelent to provincial council in SL) does not consititute a seperate country...

so my argument is , in trying to achive peace in SL what exactly does the LTTE want. why has no one come up and say these are they aspects we want?

and if the SL government is pressued to give these things, where does it compare in global and local terms to the above two examples? and where do we stop at creating new nations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minority or subordinate group is a sociological group that does not constitute a politically dominant plurality of the total population of a given society.- wikipedia</p>
<p>I have read in this site a lot about conflict resolution, and peace. but what i am not clear is that , how can a minority (as defined above) claim that due to their minotiry status claim that that they should be seperated and that they form a seperate enitity or a country.</p>
<p>my main question arises from the fact that, where would such demand end , example what what be the lowest common denominator?</p>
<p>my reasoning come from this. example &#8211; if we say in sri lankan terms , lets say that the kandyan buddishts decided to create a seperate state. they have legal precedent due to nayyakkar history and the kandyan law. they are in one geograpgical area and also of one religion. they are of one cast, say kandyan cast. so does that mean if they want to seperate from the rest the sri lankan government and the world and UN and UNHCR should help them if they say that they have been discriminated.</p>
<p>to take a international example, mermons in mormons of Utah, if they are the majority in Utah state are having their own culture and religion and geographically in a seperate area. could they ask USA government for seperation from US of A..</p>
<p>now some can argue that united states have devolved power.  i am not too aware of the level of power devolution in Utah , but since they call it one country, one citizenship, one currency, one national anthem i feel they still are within one country&#8230;</p>
<p>seperate flag or police or municiplaty in state level (equavelent to provincial council in SL) does not consititute a seperate country&#8230;</p>
<p>so my argument is , in trying to achive peace in SL what exactly does the LTTE want. why has no one come up and say these are they aspects we want?</p>
<p>and if the SL government is pressued to give these things, where does it compare in global and local terms to the above two examples? and where do we stop at creating new nations</p>
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		<title>By: punitham</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>punitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohana
1. JVP started the troubles in 1971? A lot of troubles happened between 1948 and 1971.

2. Some Tamils and Sinhalese are waiting for the peace proposal from the APC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohana<br />
1. JVP started the troubles in 1971? A lot of troubles happened between 1948 and 1971.</p>
<p>2. Some Tamils and Sinhalese are waiting for the peace proposal from the APC.</p>
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		<title>By: punitham</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>punitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dayan

this sounds very scary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dayan</p>
<p>this sounds very scary</p>
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		<title>By: rohana a</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>rohana a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you describe is very sad to happen to any human. Sri Lanka was once the most peaceful country where all communities lived as one people. Extremists like JVP started the troubles in 1971 and then LTTE continued. When estimated 50,000+ innocent Sinhalese people died in 1971 there was no international communities to cry for them. What both JVP and LTTE did was sacrificed innocent people to achieve their own agendas. What about thousands of innocent people being killed by LTTE? Who is crying for them?

Nandasena who must be a Tamil extremist in a Sinhala name has forgotten that &#039;occupied land&#039; he is talking about is not anyones but part of Sri Lanka which belongs to every Sri Lankan irrespective of the language they speak. If anyone tried to follow this idiot&#039;s racists theory then all the Tamils and Muslims will have to be chased out of down south because one can argue that they are occupying Sinhala land. So it is time for everyone to concentrate on how to help the affected Sinhala, Tamil, and Muslim people and how to help democratically elected govt to help to resolve this 30+ year old cancer brought in by a terrorist group.

We all have heard about this terrorist&#039;s reason as to protect the Tamil people and their rights. What rubbish is that. If anyone cannot understand by now that they are not for the Tamil people, they have to be simply idiots. Is it the reason why LTTE has killed so many Tamils? How many times we have to explain these things to Terrorist sympathisers?

Lets get the govt and real Tamil leaders to sit together and resolve this issue once and for all. LTTE if they are not willing to negotiate and settle this matter, they should be not only isolated but completely get rid of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you describe is very sad to happen to any human. Sri Lanka was once the most peaceful country where all communities lived as one people. Extremists like JVP started the troubles in 1971 and then LTTE continued. When estimated 50,000+ innocent Sinhalese people died in 1971 there was no international communities to cry for them. What both JVP and LTTE did was sacrificed innocent people to achieve their own agendas. What about thousands of innocent people being killed by LTTE? Who is crying for them?</p>
<p>Nandasena who must be a Tamil extremist in a Sinhala name has forgotten that &#8216;occupied land&#8217; he is talking about is not anyones but part of Sri Lanka which belongs to every Sri Lankan irrespective of the language they speak. If anyone tried to follow this idiot&#8217;s racists theory then all the Tamils and Muslims will have to be chased out of down south because one can argue that they are occupying Sinhala land. So it is time for everyone to concentrate on how to help the affected Sinhala, Tamil, and Muslim people and how to help democratically elected govt to help to resolve this 30+ year old cancer brought in by a terrorist group.</p>
<p>We all have heard about this terrorist&#8217;s reason as to protect the Tamil people and their rights. What rubbish is that. If anyone cannot understand by now that they are not for the Tamil people, they have to be simply idiots. Is it the reason why LTTE has killed so many Tamils? How many times we have to explain these things to Terrorist sympathisers?</p>
<p>Lets get the govt and real Tamil leaders to sit together and resolve this issue once and for all. LTTE if they are not willing to negotiate and settle this matter, they should be not only isolated but completely get rid of.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
		<link>http://groundviews.org/2007/12/17/until-the-guns-are-silent/#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer has only a one sided view.  You should have interviewed the poor villagers who are Sinhalese and Muslims who have been chased away from their homes at the gun point when Prabakaran was doing ethnic clensing in the North and the East which shows the brutal racism of this terrorist leader.

How about the suicidal women  terrorists who blow up their heads as well as other inocent sinhalese civilians.  Most of all we will never forget the mass assacination of 38 student monks (8 to 13 years olds)who were cut into pieces by LTTE terrorists in Aranthalawa, who didn&#039;t have anything to do with politics.  How LTTE used to kill masses and masses of inocent villagers of Anuradhapura by simply cutting their heads off and chopping the bodies into pieces.

One can write any amount of poems but one day LTTE  together with Prabaharan and his foreign supporters will be properly perished according to the law of the universe.  Then you will be able to write a better poem than this.

I&#039;ll tell you one thing, Sri Lankans will never hand over a chunk of our country to a bunch of heartless terrorists when there are reasonable and well educated Tamil politicians who can be the leaders of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer has only a one sided view.  You should have interviewed the poor villagers who are Sinhalese and Muslims who have been chased away from their homes at the gun point when Prabakaran was doing ethnic clensing in the North and the East which shows the brutal racism of this terrorist leader.</p>
<p>How about the suicidal women  terrorists who blow up their heads as well as other inocent sinhalese civilians.  Most of all we will never forget the mass assacination of 38 student monks (8 to 13 years olds)who were cut into pieces by LTTE terrorists in Aranthalawa, who didn&#8217;t have anything to do with politics.  How LTTE used to kill masses and masses of inocent villagers of Anuradhapura by simply cutting their heads off and chopping the bodies into pieces.</p>
<p>One can write any amount of poems but one day LTTE  together with Prabaharan and his foreign supporters will be properly perished according to the law of the universe.  Then you will be able to write a better poem than this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you one thing, Sri Lankans will never hand over a chunk of our country to a bunch of heartless terrorists when there are reasonable and well educated Tamil politicians who can be the leaders of the people.</p>
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